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jeepster · 09-30-2005, 09:48 AM

Really why is that ?? I like to learn new things.. Am I missing something, I have found through trial and error that the lower gears in combination with the larger tires seems to be the winning combo. The same seems to be true with my 1:1. Not trying to bash you digler I’m just wondering what I am missing and if there is something I can do to improve my currant set up, any info would be greatly appreciated

jeepster · 09-30-2005, 09:50 AM

sorry didnt read you other post befor responding to the simple "no"

DirkDigler · 09-30-2005, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jeepster

Really why is that ?? I like to learn new things.. Am I missing something, I have found through trial and error that the lower gears in combination with the larger tires seems to be the winning combo. The same seems to be true with my 1:1. Not trying to bash you digler I’m just wondering what I am missing and if there is something I can do to improve my currant set up, any info would be greatly appreciated

Personally, I think that the best rc crawler drivers are guys from Colorado and Utah. They have demonstrated over the past few years that they can win the comps, time after time, against people from all over the country. The winning combo seems just the opposite and I have also followed their lead. On the Super crawlers, I thought big 7 inch tires with 8 tooth pinions was the way to go. Now, I run mashers that aren't even 6 inches tall with 12 or 13 tooth pinions. My crawlers do much better set up like this, discounting the theory of bigger is better and that 1:1 rules apply to rc.

jeepster · 09-30-2005, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DirkDigler

Also, take into account that the terrain that we are crawlin on is totally different, when you look at it in scale perspective. It requires totally different gearing than our 1:1 counterparts. And what about tire size in proportion to the truck size.....and compare the tire/truck size to the obsticles. What about the weight of our rigs? What about wheel speed and rpm? Lower geared is not always better. How about driving style...or lack there of.
Bottom line is...... I have no idea of what I am talking about.

As I said before they are different, however for crawling I still say go with the lower gears.... try to use driving skill to negotiate (sp?) obstacles rather than power over them

if you are powering over everything in your path than we cant call it crawling

jeepster · 09-30-2005, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DirkDigler

Personally, I think that the best rc crawler drivers are guys from Colorado and Utah. They have demonstrated over the past few years that they can win the comps, time after time, against people from all over the country. The winning combo seems just the opposite and I have also followed their lead. On the Super crawlers, I thought big 7 inch tires with 8 tooth pinions was the way to go. Now, I run mashers that aren't even 6 inches tall with 12 or 13 tooth pinions. My crawlers do much better set up like this, discounting the theory of bigger is better and that 1:1 rules apply to rc.

well said you do have a point here I also run smaller tires than the norm on my rc, I still seem to like the lower gears though... maby I will re visit the idea of using some of my higher gears.... thanks for the insite. I have been wron before.

DirkDigler · 09-30-2005, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jeepster

As I said before they are different, however for crawling I still say go with the lower gears.... try to use driving skill to negotiate (sp?) obstacles rather than power over them

if you are powering over everything in your path than we cant call it crawling

A lot depends on the type of terrain you crawl on. Most of the stuff we do out here, "in real crawler territory", is slick rock. There aren't huge boulders, etc. Lot's of ledges, steep climbs and things like that. We have found that have some taller gearing and wheel speed can help. If you are negotiating big boulders and drop offs and what not, lower gearing can certainly aid there.

PinchFlat · 09-30-2005, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jeepster

As I said before they are different, however for crawling I still say go with the lower gears.... try to use driving skill to negotiate (sp?) obstacles rather than power over them

if you are powering over everything in your path than we cant call it crawling

I never said use 13t pins to power over everything. I said: Learn to feather the throttle, 55t with 13t pins have plenty of tourque for any situation. AND you will have juice if you ever need it.

jeepster · 09-30-2005, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DirkDigler

A lot depends on the type of terrain you crawl on. Most of the stuff we do out here, "in real crawler territory", is slick rock. There aren't huge boulders, etc. Lot's of ledges, steep climbs and things like that. We have found that have some taller gearing and wheel speed can help. If you are negotiating big boulders and drop offs and what not, lower gearing can certainly aid there.

were is real crawler territory? lol I think we may be pretty close to the same location

anyways Im going to try some higher gears again (I dont fear change) and see how they compare around here.

jeepster · 09-30-2005, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PinchFlat

I never said use 13t pins to power over everything. I said: Learn to feather the throttle, 55t with 13t pins have plenty of tourque for any situation. AND you will have juice if you ever need it.

no worries if that is what woorks for your driving style that is the way to go. not saying you were wrong

DirkDigler · 09-30-2005, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PinchFlat

I never said use 13t pins to power over everything. I said: Learn to feather the throttle, 55t with 13t pins have plenty of tourque for any situation. AND you will have juice if you ever need it.

Right. That was why I made the related comment: proportional esc's combined with high turn motors can net you some amazing results. In the end, driving experience, know how.....and lots of luck will win the comp.

PinchFlat · 09-30-2005, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jeepster

no worries if that is what woorks for your driving style that is the way to go. not saying you were wrong

Style, I have no style, driving or other.

Hey your close to us Jeepster, we ever going to see you at one of our comps... come on down anytime.

DirkDigler · 09-30-2005, 10:30 AM

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Style, I have no style, driving or other.

Hey your close to us Jeepster, we ever going to see you at one of our comps... come on down anytime.

If he came to one of our comps, he would have to leave at least a week or two early because he runs such low gearing in his vehicle.

Bsmooth · 09-30-2005, 10:37 AM

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I like to feel up testicles using Digler's technique, and not give the courtesy of a reach around.

Quit smokin' the pole, dude.

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really like the 8T pinions with a 7 cell pack in my shafty Clod. I have both good crawlability and wheel speed to break things.

"I don't care who you are, that's funny right there."

jeepster · 09-30-2005, 10:38 AM

I would love to come down to a comp some time. that would be great... it would only take me a couple of hours, actually and thats if im towing my rig lol

anyway it would be cool to ceck out some of the other rigs around let me know when your next get together is

DirkDigler · 09-30-2005, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jeepster

I would love to come down to a comp some time. that would be great... it would only take me a couple of hours, actually and thats if im towing my rig lol

anyway it would be cool to ceck out some of the other rigs around let me know when your next get together is

Ours is tommow in Colorado Springs.
See you there!

jeepster · 09-30-2005, 10:48 AM

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Ours is tommow in Colorado Springs.
See you there!

well I guess I was wrong I thought you were a utah boy... I probly wont make it to colorado tomarrow... thanks for the invite though

DirkDigler · 09-30-2005, 10:49 AM

First of all..... I never invited you.
Second...Read my location: I'm from ****ville.
Third....it is an insult that you would think that I am gay.

jeepster · 09-30-2005, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DirkDigler

First of all..... I never invited you.
Second...Read my location: I'm from ****ville.
Third....it is an insult that you would think that I am gay.

you are a funny guy digler

you always make me laugh

jeepster · 09-30-2005, 10:54 AM

seriously though digler I am curios to know what you are running in you setup

DirkDigler · 09-30-2005, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jeepster

seriously though I am curios to know what you are running in you setup

Honestly?
I change it all the time. I change it for terrain, etc. It seems like excessive work for someone who can't drive fer ****.....but I have always been a believer in adaptability. That is one reason I have multiple rigs too.
With my 40 series moab rig, I actually do go with 8 tooth pinions.
With my comp rig, I go with masher 2ks and vary between 9 tooths, all the way to 15 tooths.

09-30-2005, 10:54 AM	#39
jeepster Rock Stacker Join Date: May 2004 Location: Idaho Posts: 81	seriously though digler I am curios to know what you are running in you setup Last edited by jeepster; 09-30-2005 at 10:59 AM.

09-30-2005, 09:48 AM	#21
jeepster Rock Stacker Join Date: May 2004 Location: Idaho Posts: 81	Really why is that ?? I like to learn new things.. Am I missing something, I have found through trial and error that the lower gears in combination with the larger tires seems to be the winning combo. The same seems to be true with my 1:1. Not trying to bash you digler I’m just wondering what I am missing and if there is something I can do to improve my currant set up, any info would be greatly appreciated

09-30-2005, 09:50 AM	#22
jeepster Rock Stacker Join Date: May 2004 Location: Idaho Posts: 81	sorry didnt read you other post befor responding to the simple "no"

09-30-2005, 10:38 AM	#34
jeepster Rock Stacker Join Date: May 2004 Location: Idaho Posts: 81	I would love to come down to a comp some time. that would be great... it would only take me a couple of hours, actually and thats if im towing my rig lol anyway it would be cool to ceck out some of the other rigs around let me know when your next get together is

09-30-2005, 10:49 AM	#37
DirkDigler I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,027	First of all..... I never invited you. Second...Read my location: I'm from ****ville. Third....it is an insult that you would think that I am gay.

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