08-30-2009, 12:18 AM | #1 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lincoln
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| MOA Losi or Berg
I am thinking of building another rig and just wanted to get some feed back. Should I go Losi MOA, 2 guys in our club have them and they seem to work very well. However, the bergs always seem to do well too. I like the size of the Losi, but the strength of the Berg(CVD). Let me know what you think.
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08-30-2009, 12:54 AM | #2 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Gold Bar
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08-30-2009, 04:34 AM | #3 |
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08-30-2009, 06:05 AM | #4 |
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I have had both. I ran a Berg for the past year or so. This year I had a KK 4.0, 4PK, dual FXR's, 35T HH motors.....it was great. Got a little bored with it and bought a stock Losi when it came out. Then traded the Berg for a Losi with MOA kit. Haven't looked back. The Losi MOA is a little different and takes some getting used to, but I love it. I am a little leary of the CVD's, but the aftermarket will come to the rescue eventually. I like light rigs and my MOA Losi is 5 lbs even, RTR.
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08-30-2009, 07:31 AM | #5 |
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Berg is proven. |
08-30-2009, 07:31 AM | #6 |
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Bully all the way a touch heavy but super strong.
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08-30-2009, 09:35 AM | #7 |
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Thanks for the info, I kind of forgot about the Bully axles. What chassis do most run with these axles, SWX?
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08-30-2009, 12:30 PM | #8 |
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| anything you want pretty much, but the swx has some clearance issues on the bully I believe, I vote bully, cheap and effective, they aren't as popular as bergs now, but once rc4wd's reputation improves I hope we will see many |
08-30-2009, 03:39 PM | #9 |
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| BERG MOA is the way. My preferance. You might see what will suit your driving ability and go with it. I don't like the cog of the losi moa |
08-30-2009, 03:50 PM | #10 |
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08-30-2009, 03:58 PM | #11 |
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the cog is no higher than a berg with clocked axles. I am getting things gathered up to build a losi MOA right now. I own a Berg and an axial so I thought I should tey this next. The CVD's are the only concern I have with it, But as stated before the aftermarket will take care of that before to long. There is one set out already but I refuse to spend my money with the vendor that sells them. |
08-30-2009, 04:22 PM | #12 |
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If you setup a berg and a Losi MOA with all the same running gear, the COG of the Losi would be higher due to its light plastic axles.
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08-30-2009, 07:17 PM | #13 |
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What about the New Berg V2 axles...... improved ?
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08-31-2009, 01:38 AM | #14 | ||
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Less weight on my axle allows me to get the weight on my wheels then! I would rather have a lighter rig and be able to put the weight where I wanted to than have to work around the weight. I love my 3.5 Berg! But my Eritex Losi with the pullers on it is just sick!!!!! Even Jeff is driving a Losi right now (Kamikaze)! Go with the MOA Losi The Berg guys are just getting scared that now there is something that can beat it! Again, I still have a Berg! But it's on the shelf for right now:-P As for the CVD prob on the Losi....I wouldn't give the guys selling the new CVD a dime anymore And they are breaking left and right already! On the other hand Egressor has a sick CVD out though that everyone says is bullet proof! Check out his thread....http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=188762 So buy the Losi, order the Eritex MOA kit http://eritexinc.com/zencart/index.p...products_id=38 Then order 2 7T pullers from Holmes Hobbies http://holmeshobbies.com/product.php...&cat=17&page=1 Grab the new Punk RC Dig unit http://www.punkrc.com/index.php?main...products_id=28 Don't forget to put some new Panther Leopards on there! http://www.pantherteam.com/index.php...roducts_id=322 Only thing left is to check out the build threads and videos on the Losi MOA's, build yours, and go kick so butt Daddy-0You'll love it! And even if you decided that it wasn't what you liked you will have a line of Berg owners that would trade you for it all day long!:-P Last edited by TattooKenny; 08-31-2009 at 01:45 AM. | ||
08-31-2009, 01:54 AM | #15 |
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08-31-2009, 07:03 AM | #16 |
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08-31-2009, 08:34 AM | #17 | |
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| No but I have driven one. I agree, just trying to make a point from an engineering standpoint. Let's say that you were running a berg and swapped the axles to Losi MOA and changed nothing else your COG would be a little higher. Enough to really matter? I don't know but technically I think it would be a little higher. Quote:
I love the way my berg drives but will be building and tuning a Losi MOA soon for a friend I have a COG calculation spreadsheet I'll send you Kenny, you do your Losi and I'll do my berg and we can see who's truck comes out on top | |
08-31-2009, 09:15 AM | #18 |
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Rob, I would love to give your spread sheet a shot with my Losi, if I could;)
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08-31-2009, 09:21 AM | #19 |
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YGM. Hopefully I didn't put my foot in my mouth I hate the taste of leather. Looks like I could still stand to loose some weight. A link to my build is in my sig... Last edited by rob_b; 08-31-2009 at 10:42 AM. |
08-31-2009, 01:37 PM | #20 |
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Thank you for all of the feed back guys. I will have to think about it for a while. Ty |
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