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Old 10-30-2009, 10:24 PM   #1
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:31 PM   #2
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That was crazy. Looked cool though.
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:31 PM   #3
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No, he doesn't.

Info on the chassis.
Is this chassis comp-legal

Some more pics.
http://www.rccrawler.com/2009worlds/friday/index15.html
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:41 PM   #4
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I dont see room for a hydro. I dont kow how it works. Powered piston maybe? Definately wasnt a winch. It still had normal articulation wether it was high or low. It appeared that way to me.


EDIT: Is this chassis comp-legal

The articulation is powered by locking the front and pushing in with the rear. To lower, lock rear pull with the front. Its all setup using a single shock in the middle of the chassis. Pretty sweet design.

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Old 10-30-2009, 11:08 PM   #5
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Write-up in the home page seem to indicates that using a winch servo is not allowed in competition -- so this design does not integrate the use of a which servo. No mention of hydraulics -- and most likely not, It's all mechanical ACTION using upper plate design, it seems ... or i may be understanding the Japanese incorrectly.

I notice the up an down movement of the body is when he shifts from 4 wheel to dig. Climbing on 4 wheel makes the ride height go up. Dig will make the ride go low. I had this phenomenon on my Mantis and slingshot using longer shocks with some significant up-travel, at one time. Yes it will climb quite well. And if I am right, my guess is that this rig may have serious issues when doing a sidehill, as gravity is not in his favor.

The upgrade kit is being sold for 19,000yen

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Old 10-30-2009, 11:36 PM   #6
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gess guys, I know it doesn't REALLY have hydros......

Just curious how it was done.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:56 PM   #7
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Those rig sure looks like one of the japanese guys that was at worlds, his rig did the same thing. Yoshiaki knows his name im sure.
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:02 AM   #8
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Yep this rig was at worlds, I ran it for probably an hour. I loved the way it worked.

I didn't want to give it back.
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What intensely awful music.
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:21 AM   #10
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This was talked about in another thread a while back. Seems like it would be illegal in a comp to me. His wheel base changes as it moves up and down does it not? Is that not illegal?

But I love that rig! I've watched all of those videos of the Jap guys and their rigs when I was trying to get the Clinger kits in. (BTW, they did email me and said they were not sure when they would release the kit, that it had been delayed.)

How did it side hill Jason? That setup would be SICK on a super!
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:36 AM   #11
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Write-up in the home page seem to indicates that using a winch servo is not allowed in competition -- so this design does not integrate the use of a which servo. No mention of hydraulics -- and most likely not, It's all mechanical ACTION using upper plate design, it seems ... or i may be understanding the Japanese incorrectly.

I notice the up an down movement of the body is when he shifts from 4 wheel to dig. Climbing on 4 wheel makes the ride height go up. Dig will make the ride go low. I had this phenomenon on my Mantis and slingshot using longer shocks with some significant up-travel, at one time. Yes it will climb quite well. And if I am right, my guess is that this rig may have serious issues when doing a sidehill, as gravity is not in his favor.

The upgrade kit is being sold for 19,000yen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FptHA...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDgmxlR3YiQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FptHA...=1242523544.42

from videos it seems to sidehill quite well. slammed to the ground helps cog a ton. the chassis u guys mentioned w/ the shock in the middle is the slug chassis. the jack chassis was designed to use a winch where the slug is not. as far as changing wheelbase goes, is it legal as long as it doesnt stretch out of spec? just about every rig i see stretches when front dig is used. just a thought.

here is the other thread about these chassis. http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showt...67#post2076167

mutant posted up on the other thread.


"There appears to be two types of chassis on the crawling mania website, a 'cmb Jack' and a 'cmb sLug'

i think the 'cmb Jack' uses a servo winch to adjust the ride height, whereas the sLug uses differential front/rear wheel speed.

I too am sure i can see a central shock on the sLug.

$290 for chassis conversion..... "
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Old 10-31-2009, 06:38 PM   #12
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How do you do a standard front dig with this rig if its going to pull the suspension down every time?
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Old 10-31-2009, 09:40 PM   #13
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FptHA...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDgmxlR3YiQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FptHA...=1242523544.42

from videos it seems to sidehill quite well. slammed to the ground helps cog a ton. the chassis u guys mentioned w/ the shock in the middle is the slug chassis. the jack chassis was designed to use a winch where the slug is not. as far as changing wheelbase goes, is it legal as long as it doesnt stretch out of spec? just about every rig i see stretches when front dig is used. just a thought.

here is the other thread about these chassis. http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showt...67#post2076167

mutant posted up on the other thread.



"There appears to be two types of chassis on the crawling mania website, a 'cmb Jack' and a 'cmb sLug'

i think the 'cmb Jack' uses a servo winch to adjust the ride height, whereas the sLug uses differential front/rear wheel speed.

I too am sure i can see a central shock on the sLug.

$290 for chassis conversion..... "
Below is copied from the rules that are posted here http://www.usrcca.com/usrcca_rules_2...-09-master.pdf

3.8 - The vehicle must run a course entirely with the same wheelbase, track width, ride height, and tires it started
that course with. Any changes to the vehicle (other than winching down the suspension or forced
articulation) by the driver, another person, or any device, while on the course are prohibited.


That being said then the wheelbase must remain constant through out the run.
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Old 11-01-2009, 12:11 AM   #14
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that make sense to me. problem is, i have seen plenty of sprung rigs stretch while digging. I also have seen delrin links flex in then spring out while a rig was bound up(changing the w.b.). if i understand the rules correctly, those rigs would be out of spec. correct? one more Q for you guys, is this Cantilever set up legal?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90TdIuSGVkw&NR=1
i am not the best when it comes to details within the rules.

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Below is copied from the rules that are posted here http://www.usrcca.com/usrcca_rules_2...-09-master.pdf

3.8 - The vehicle must run a course entirely with the same wheelbase, track width, ride height, and tires it started
that course with. Any changes to the vehicle (other than winching down the suspension or forced
articulation) by the driver, another person, or any device, while on the course are prohibited.


That being said then the wheelbase must remain constant through out the run.
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