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10-16-2010, 09:17 PM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Diego
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|  Carbon fiber link kit
Just found these while looking for a bearing kit for my XR-10... http://www.fullforcerc.com/tools.htm I emailed them and got the responce of "We use the archery stuff which has the spiral weave to it. We actually have it made for us at Easton archery in Utah then we custom make the inserts to match the material. It will work for custom crawler links with no problem. That's why we put that kit together." So I ordered a set to play with (use as steering links on the XR-10) and who knows where else... Just thought id throw it out there since I havnt heard anyone mention them For the record I have ZERO affiliation with them. Just passing on information... |
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10-16-2010, 09:30 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Hesperia
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The only concern I would have is the inserts pulling out. They look like they are just a press fit.
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10-16-2010, 10:08 PM
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I have made a few sets of links out of arrow material. They hold up as upper links but they will wear as lowers. Also they will not take a hit. I broke my steering links the first time they hit a rock. They are easy to make yourself but the price does not seem to bad.
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10-16-2010, 10:26 PM
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Don't use them. I had some on my truck for the MSD's and made it 4 min. Into course 1 and was DNF for the whole day.
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10-16-2010, 10:50 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, Washington
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These work fine for racing, but I can't imagine people not ripping out the inserts when you have a truck all bound up, yanking the throttle with the whole truck twisting itself in a knot...... Later EddieO |
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10-17-2010, 12:57 AM
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I made my own and used the arrow tip glue. I pulled as hard as I could and did not even budge them. But you have to use the glue made for arrows. The regular hobby glue will not hold. | |
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10-17-2010, 01:07 AM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Diego
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Buddy is big time hunter.. thats what I planned on using... I think for uppers and for steering links (XR-10) these will more than stand up to the job... if the proper glue is used!!... |
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10-17-2010, 01:22 AM
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I made a set about a year ago using epoxy to glue in the inserts. Held up great, no problems at all. Part of the key is to rough up the inside of the carbon tube prior to gluing. I used a metal wire brush for cleaning gun barrels.
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10-17-2010, 05:01 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indiana
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I used easton acc shafts on mine. only did uppers. There carbon on the out side aluminum on the inside. I used metal ball ends and epoxyed them in. I've used them for 6 months or so and never had one bend or break. Even with a 15' straight fall at the ROX BOX.
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10-17-2010, 06:26 AM
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I'm not accusing people of not being a hard driver, so please hear me when I tell you this. 1. I don't care what type of glue anyone uses, its pretty simple math. The ends may hold in there when pulling, but once you place enough force on the end at an angle, these will pop. I mean your into a length about 5-10% of the shaft, not to mention that most carbon products do not flex when they hit a hard object as a movable force. 2. I suppose as upper links, they will be fine. But the moment that truck falls on some thing hard enough, it will pop. I just find it hard to believe people here are making some strange claims. I have an 11lb. KOH type rig. Uppers and lowers all carbon. I rolled over a weird incline maybe a 4 foot fall and broke a CVD, and 3 links that were epoxied ends. They all shattered out sideways at the screws. All by landing on a ridge the wrong way. 3. Why not just buy better stainless, or titanium links? Might be a bit more pricey, but last ya a help of a lot longer and they will slide on the rocks 100 times better. Even aluminum would be better. I like full forces products, but using this as an alternative doesn't seem to be a wise choice. |
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10-17-2010, 08:15 AM
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10-17-2010, 08:24 AM
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I know a lot of people use BLC Carbon links and have never heard of one breaking. I don't think they are made from arrows though.
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10-19-2010, 04:36 AM
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These are the ones I built a year ago. I have not broken one yet, but have bent the rod ends. [IMG]file:///C:/Users/gburkett/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-8.png[/IMG][IMG]file:///C:/Users/gburkett/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-9.png[/IMG]  |
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10-19-2010, 08:57 AM
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10-19-2010, 08:59 AM
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At first the inserts were pulling. I had a set that pulled during their first pack. Soon enough Zach changed up the inserts and that problem went away. I never had any problems after that. Last edited by helhedded; 10-19-2010 at 09:05 AM. | |
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10-19-2010, 09:02 AM
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Yeah, I can't speak for the BLC ones. Just the carbon graphite ones.
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10-19-2010, 09:07 AM
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10-19-2010, 10:06 AM
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Krawlfreak won nats with them on his super! I assume the same one Violator is describing. And ya Jeremy Ashton is right mine were the first run that had too small of inserts. |
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10-19-2010, 10:11 AM
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Zach told me that the reason was that the inner diameter of the tubing had changed to a smaller size. Any glue that was on the insert or in the tube was pushed further into the tube when the inserts were put in. | |
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10-19-2010, 10:14 AM
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