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View Poll Results: WHICH MOA?
Bully axle based rig 15 15.79%
Berg axle based rig 19 20.00%
Axial xr10 rig 56 58.95%
Other 5 5.26%
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Old 11-27-2010, 02:57 PM   #1
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got out of crawling and had a comp ax10.... now i want to get back into carawling with a MOA. so the question.
BULLY AXLES
BERG AXLES
XR10 kit
I was leaning towards the xr10 but have read tons of posts about gear and or bearing issues.

any thoughts or input on the rigs
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:19 PM   #2
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I voted XR10. Looks like the bearing issues are simple enough to remedy before its a problem. And its a straight up performer right out of the box.
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:31 PM   #3
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Axial xr10 rig is treating me well.
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:41 PM   #4
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My xr-10 is working well bone stock out of the box not one problem
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Old 11-27-2010, 04:23 PM   #5
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What is your budget? What type of crawling (comp, bashing)? What electronics do you have (transmitter, batteries, charger, etc)??
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Old 11-27-2010, 04:37 PM   #6
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Wouldn't say my budget is stingy but don't want to pour a fortune into it.
Right now I have a spektrum dx3.0 radio for my 3 existing vehicles. Was thinking dx3s or dx3r.
Xr10 kit possibly dual fxr esc or mamba micros.
Not sure on esc choiceor servos.
I want to run dig of course.
I will be doing small indoor comps mostly at hobbytown in toledo ohio as well as messing around outside during the summer here in michigan

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Old 11-27-2010, 04:52 PM   #7
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Already have lipo chargers too.
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Old 11-27-2010, 05:23 PM   #8
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The XR-10 is really the first MOA right out of the box, and from what I can tell from the comments, it's right on target. I don't have one but I've been watching carefully and if I was going down the MOA road tomorrow it would defiantly be the AX-10.

The after market highly machined Berg axles are really awesome as well but the cost for a set is high also.

For some reason the Bully axles just don't seem to be as competitive as the Berg or at least in my club.

The AX-10 has changed the MOA landscape, it's nicely priced, works right out of the box and it looks like the after market options and hop-ups are going to be amazing.

Welcome back and good luck.
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Old 11-27-2010, 05:24 PM   #9
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I voted XR10, since i'm getting mine on tuesday haha, my second vote would go to the berg.
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Old 11-27-2010, 09:53 PM   #10
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Have one of each and the xr is shining brite very happy and why not help those that make this sport what it is axial
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Old 11-27-2010, 10:11 PM   #11
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Was thinking dx3s or dx3r.
Xr10 kit possibly dual fxr esc or mamba micros.
Not sure on esc choiceor servos.
I want to run dig of course.
Well, you might want to read about those two radios....I believe the 3S only has a 2 position switch which will not work for a dig. The 3R has a three position switch, but you will not see the full potential of the dual ESCs without proportional control over each....for that you'll need a 4 channel radio (like a Nomadio React, Futaba 4PK or a dual stick)...
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Old 11-27-2010, 10:57 PM   #12
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I voted bully base, just got mine, run with alot of bully based rigs, seem to work good.

They are all good choices though.

DX3E is a good choice for using one esc. DX3R is very good and a little more money than the 3E. Heard they are discontinuing the 3E, true or not? I am not sure. Good luck and enjoy what ever you get.
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Old 11-28-2010, 12:57 AM   #13
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dx3r radio( 4 channel is out as it's too much and I hate stick radios)
mamba micro pro or holmes hobbies torque master br-xl
cc bec( do I still need it if i went with torquemaster esc)
punk dig
unsure on servo still

unsure on motors as well.
maybe holmes hobbies torquemaster pro handwound or pro handwound team edition.

any suggestions on what I posted up and/0r servo suggestions. I used to run hitec 7955tg in my ax-10 crawler
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Old 11-28-2010, 06:50 AM   #14
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dx3r radio( 4 channel is out as it's too much and I hate stick radios)
mamba micro pro or holmes hobbies torque master br-xl
cc bec( do I still need it if i went with torquemaster esc)
punk dig
unsure on servo still
That sounds like an excellent setup for any of the choices listed in the poll. There are plenty of good standard size servos out there:
Futaba S9157
Hitec 7950
(just to name a few)

As for motors, I run 35T Brood Creep RT motors in most of my trucks and am extremely happy with their performance:
http://teambrood.com/catalog/product...roducts_id=109

I hope this helps.
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Old 11-28-2010, 10:26 AM   #15
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XR10
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Old 11-28-2010, 12:32 PM   #16
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Futaba now makes a 4PL radio. It is a less exspensive version of the 4PK. As far as I know it works like a 4PK but at half the cost. There is a thread somewhere here about the 4PL.

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Futaba 4PL Setup, Tips, Tricks & Help

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Old 11-28-2010, 02:55 PM   #17
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i got a ax10 and last nite a drove xr10 lot of diff on the moa.
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:05 PM   #18
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i sold my ax 10 to get the xr so i can comp with it and WOW. i have been to one comp with it so far and it performs amazing out of the box. iam only running one cc mm pro, punk dig, tekin 45t, on 3s and its amazing. i run it off my dx3r
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Old 11-28-2010, 07:29 PM   #19
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One more vote for a XR10.
I have had mine bound up pretty good. Did manage to blow up a final gear and spool. Was doing someting I shouldn't have been though.
Since the Avid bearings and hot racing gears, no problems what so ever.
My shopping list would be XR10, dual FXR's (with 45t motors), 4pl radio, STRC bent links for the upper and lower (replace the flexy plastic ones), avid bearings to replace the 8mm trans bearings, some white dot rovers, and if I had money, some aluminum caps for the shocks.
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i sold my ax 10 to get the xr so i can comp with it and WOW. i have been to one comp with it so far and it performs amazing out of the box. iam only running one cc mm pro, punk dig, tekin 45t, on 3s and its amazing. i run it off my dx3r
Same, I sold my ax10 to get an xr10. I haven't been able to drive it yet becuase i'm still undecided on electronics.

I voted xr10.
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