Super 300/300HD's

[RcBro]

Originally Posted by OTHGbronco82

Nice recovery at 0:47. It sucks that you have to use xr10/wraith c hubs with wraith knuckles. I would love to be able to use vp highsteer berg knuckles.

You won't see the added benefit of additional steering by using that setup. If you wish to run that setup then the normal 300's are perfect.

However if your wanting better steering then what you have the next step is using the parts needed and upgrading to 300HD which will allow for the additional steering.

[53 willys]

Originally Posted by 4xFord

AND FOR NON INCLINED KINGPIN SETUP:

Normal AX10 Chub + Felsenfest V5XR knuckle = Should work but needs to be confirmed first.

Do these knuckles even exist??

[TSK]

Originally Posted by 53 willys

Do these knuckles even exist??

I know Christian had put them out a while back. They were basically his standard AX Knuckle with longer tabs for the kingpins. If he does 't have them in stock, it shouldn't be too hard for him to make them.

OH, and I had heard there was a 300HD failure at PCC. Is this true?

[SDS Customz]

Originally Posted by 4xFord

Ok, lets try this.

XR10/wraith Chub + Wraith Knuckle = Works and is the ideal setup for max steering

XR10/wraith Chub + XR Knuckle = Works but xr knuckle may limit steering angle.

VP AX10 8* Chub + XR or Wraith knuckle = No worky

VP AX10 8* Chub + XR or Wraith knuckle + SDS customs flange bushing adapters = Works

AND FOR NON INCLINED KINGPIN SETUP:

Normal AX10 Chub + Felsenfest V5XR knuckle = Should work but needs to be confirmed first.

Thanks Shelby, I guess it takes a higher education to get it explained in simple terms I will try and get it added later tonight

Originally Posted by ninja turtle

Sorry but I'm still confused. With those adapters you can use vp ax10 8* knuckles with wraith chubs to use the new hd 300's? Any pics of this setup?

I found the typo that I think was causing the confusion and fixed it. Should have read VP AX-10 8* "c's"(chub) with wraith/XR knuckles

Originally Posted by 53 willys

so what is it about this combo that wont work on a berg with dlux tubes?
xr10chubs fit on Dlux tubes...

with xr-10 chubs and a wraith /xr-10 knuckle you should be good to go

Originally Posted by 4xFord

Someone please put this in the first post, John makes killer axles but does use some confusing descriptions. Ninja Turtle was right to be confused. The adapters should be called VP AX10 8* Chub to Wraith/XR knuckle adapters.

I will get that done

Originally Posted by 53 willys

yeah i knew what Erik wanted....but John had told me I needed the "adapters" to run this combo on a berg....it's an extra $35 in parts I dont need??...unless there is some reason wraith knuckles and wraith chubs wont work on a berg with 300hd's??

Im not sure where we talked could have been a miss- understanding on my part, wraith/wraith would be good

Originally Posted by CREEPERBOB

Okay, the bully's are about 5-5/8" so I guess that would be a yes .

the builders are 6.5 inners and should work good for that. I still want to get ahold of a bully super axle and do the conversion. just havent had the time to track them down.

Originally Posted by OTHGbronco82

Nice recovery at 0:47. It sucks that you have to use xr10/wraith c hubs with wraith knuckles. I would love to be able to use vp highsteer berg knuckles.

A given size product can only fit into so many places. sorry

Originally Posted by 53 willys

Do these knuckles even exist??

A guy had a set of the Falsenfet knucks at PCC and we put a shaft in. All looked good, so I would give them a , Now weather they are available or not im not sure

Originally Posted by TheSCorpionKing

OH, and I had heard there was a 300HD failure at PCC. Is this true?

Not a ChanceThe shafts laughed at the thought and then the tube end broke off of the wraith housing, despite Krawlfreaks best effort. Great comp for any of ya that missed it killer spot.

I'm doing a little re-design on the housing to hopefully fix the issue. All of the steering can apply a huge amount of leverage on the housing .

[TSK]

Originally Posted by SDS Customz

Not a ChanceThe shafts laughed at the thought and then the tube end broke off of the wraith housing, despite Krawlfreaks best effort. Great comp for any of ya that missed it killer spot.

I'm doing a little re-design on the housing to hopefully fix the issue. All of the steering can apply a huge amount of leverage on the housing .

Hmmm.. Coulda sworn I heard that Jeremy's XR broke an SUPER HD...

Will beef tubes help? My Wraith axled sportsman has a considerable amount of steering angle, but I haven't had issues like that yet,but I do have beef tubes installed.

Or was it a VP housing that broke?

[SDS Customz]

Originally Posted by TheSCorpionKing

Hmmm.. Coulda sworn I heard that Jeremy's XR broke an SUPER HD...Shouldnt believe everything you here I guess He broke a inner (stock xr)shaft or a spool not sure which yet

Will beef tubes help? My Wraith axled sportsman has a considerable amount of steering angle, but I haven't had issues like that yet,but I do have beef tubes installed.

You have a good amount of steering though just by lookin at the pic looks about 10* or so short. My tires will acctually lay down on the axle tube right at 78-80*(I just went and measured it). I will be installing a beef tube to hopefully cure the issue

Or was it a VP housing that broke?

looks like a nice setup

[rcjunky3]

i had a chance to check out one of these super 300 hd's this past weekend at PCC and i must say they are very nice

[mfawv]

ok, maybe i missed it but will the HDs wor with the VP AX10 8* Knuckles and C-hubs or do i have to use normal 300's?
sorry if this was already answered.

mike

[The Violator]

Originally Posted by mfawv

ok, maybe i missed it but will the HDs wor with the VP AX10 8* Knuckles and C-hubs or do i have to use normal 300's?
sorry if this was already answered.

mike

You must use a Wraith knuckle to use the hd's.

[53 willys]

Originally Posted by The Violator

You must use a Wraith knuckle to use the hd's.

And sds adapters/king pin bushings.

[53 willys]

Originally Posted by SDS Customz

A guy had a set of the Falsenfet knucks at PCC and we put a shaft in. All looked good, so I would give them a , Now weather they are available or not im not sure
.

so no "adapters/king pin bushings" needed with that set-up?

[JeremyH]

Originally Posted by 53 willys

so no "adapters/king pin bushings" needed with that set-up?

I think that the adapters are only used when converting an AX10 8* knuckle to an XR/wraith knuckle, correct?

So, there should be no need for those adapters/king pins for the Felsenfest knucks.

[SDS Customz]

Originally Posted by mfawv

ok, maybe i missed it but will the HDs wor with the VP AX10 8* Knuckles and C-hubs or do i have to use normal 300's?
sorry if this was already answered.

mike

If you have AX-10 chubs and want to use 300HD's then you would need 2-sets of axial8* "c's"to wraith knuckle adapters and a set of wraith knuckles*.. Otherwise you would need to order a set of the original 300's for axial knuckles and obviously specify the base shaft type(berg/axial)

Originally Posted by 53 willys

so no "adapters/king pin bushings" needed with that set-up?

With the falsenfet knuckle (straight kingpin for wraith/xr shaft) and axial standard (straight kingpin) chubs there is no need for the adapters

[krawlfreak]

Originally Posted by TheSCorpionKing

OH, and I had heard there was a 300HD failure at PCC. Is this true?

that is a big negative.

i ripped the chub and housing apart on johns sportsman and the shaft survived, my xr did break but the 300hd shafts never even made it into the truck because i was working on my super.


i actuallybroke the locker itself

[TSK]

Originally Posted by krawlfreak

that is a big negative.

i ripped the chub and housing apart on johns sportsman and the shaft survived, my xr did break but the 300hd shafts never even made it into the truck because i was working on my super.


i actuallybroke the locker itself

Good to know, good to know

DId the sportsman have beef tubes? And what locker did you break?

[krawlfreak]

Originally Posted by TheSCorpionKing

Good to know, good to know

DId the sportsman have beef tubes? And what locker did you break?

the sportsman axles are custom shortened wraith axles....so not really.

the h/r gears in the xr, i believe i splayed the locker gear open where the axle shaft inserts, i will get it apart and inspect it further. there will be an update in my thread about that

[dexcrawler]

my berg front tube setup is ax10 C's with VP zero arck knuckle,what kind of super 300 HD may fit my rig??

Berg one or it's better with Original 300's?if does,Berg/Berg or Berg/Axial should i choose?

Thanks

Song

[SDS Customz]

Originally Posted by dexcrawler

my berg front tube setup is ax10 C's with VP zero arck knuckle,what kind of super 300 HD may fit my rig??

Berg one or it's better with Original 300's?if does,Berg/Berg or Berg/Axial should i choose?

Thanks

Song

none of the HD series would fit. You would have to change to a wraith/xr style knuckle to be able to fit a HD. Ill send you a pm with the options

[53 willys]

Originally Posted by SDS Customz

none of the HD series would fit. You would have to change to a wraith/xr style knuckle to be able to fit a HD. Ill send you a pm with the options

Egressor knuckles with ax10 chubs fit 300hd correct??

[gunnar]

You might be able to clear up some of this confusion by posting up pics of calipers measuring the space between the chub/knuckle on both setups.

Narrow space-Standard 300

Wider space- 300HD

Personally, I got the differences right away, so no cunfusion here.