12-29-2012, 03:55 AM | #1 |
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| Why use hex screws?
I a bit of a noob and want to know why everything used on crawler ect is hex screws, why not use normal Phillips screws? Any reason for this or..... Thanks. |
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12-29-2012, 04:13 AM | #2 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bedford Ky
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Phillips have a greater tendency to strip out and you can't place a lot of torque on Phillips if they are stuck ie stripped screw heads
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12-29-2012, 09:09 AM | #3 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Birmingham, Alabama
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| Re: Why use hex screws?
Agree with above
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12-29-2012, 09:47 AM | #4 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: B-E-A-utiful Vancouver Island
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| Re: Why use hex screws?
^^X3 ive had phillips screws come on some stuff and after stripping several, i always change them out right away
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12-29-2012, 10:14 AM | #5 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tri-cities, WA
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| Re: Why use hex screws?
Because philips screw heads have to be larger than needed in order to have a head that might not strip. Inevitably they always strip anyway. Allen head screws are superior in every way, widely available in every conceivable style and most importantly they don't suck. |
12-29-2012, 10:20 AM | #6 |
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| Re: Why use hex screws?
simple reason, hex screws work much better because they strip less
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12-29-2012, 01:49 PM | #7 |
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| Re: Why use hex screws?
Thanks was just wondering.
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12-29-2012, 03:07 PM | #8 |
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| Re: Why use hex screws?
A decent tool makes a lot of difference also. The hex head on button and countersink screws can be very shallow and strip easily. I have found a place that supplies torx head screws which are even better than the hex head. |
12-29-2012, 03:15 PM | #9 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Katy / west houston
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| Re: Why use hex screws?
Also trying to fit a larger diameter screwdriver (Phillips) between stuff is a PITA, sometimes...
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12-29-2012, 04:17 PM | #10 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Harrisburg on the way to Wingate
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| Re: Why use hex screws?
Any good online sites to pick up good aluminum hex hardware?
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12-29-2012, 04:44 PM | #11 |
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Harley sells in bulk I think. McMaster Carr , microfasteners all good places have never wanted aluminum fasteners always use stainless or black oxide Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner |
12-29-2012, 07:28 PM | #12 |
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| Re: Why use hex screws?
Everyone above is wrong... The real reason is that its alot more fun to clean the dirt out of them.. Real reason I like them is they can be rock rashed/smashed and 99% of the time I can still get them out.
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12-29-2012, 07:32 PM | #13 |
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12-29-2012, 09:39 PM | #14 |
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Harley sells some nice bulk kits in stainless and normal steel . Support rcc vendors . |
12-30-2012, 03:48 PM | #15 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Harrisburg on the way to Wingate
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| Re: Why use hex screws?
Are there any drawbacks to using aluminum over stainless/black ox other than accelerated wear? I like the idea of tying in the fasteners to the color scheme when anodized.
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12-30-2012, 04:15 PM | #16 | |
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12-30-2012, 04:20 PM | #17 |
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| Re: Why use hex screws? Aluminum is a "soft" metal and therefore the threads are more prone to stripping, also aluminum has less torsional and sheer strength as well as less "memory" when bent... I run all titanium hardware... With aluminum just make sure to use loctite and "touch" when tightening and you will be fine....
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12-30-2012, 04:20 PM | #18 |
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12-30-2012, 04:32 PM | #19 |
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| Re: Why use hex screws?
From a mechanical point of view I'd vote for Torx, which is even better than allen head, but those aren't that common... nor cheap... :(
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12-30-2012, 05:43 PM | #20 |
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| Re: Why use hex screws? Agreed 100%. More biting surface for the tool/fastener. The smaller allens screws on rc's seem to strip so easy. I never have had an issue with removing anything rc that is phillips. But Allens stip all of the time. I know better drivers (allen wrench's) would help. But I don't use anything high tech for phillips and they always work perfect. I have had to use a dremel to cut a strait slot and remove with a strait screw driver on tons of allen screws. Or use pliers of some sort on smaller ones that do not have the material to cut a strait slot in (example Axial beadlock screws).
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