11-06-2013, 01:38 PM | #121 |
Newbie Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Corona
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| Re: New Vaterra.... They are definitely worn. I've had a ton of fun with this little rig, a lot more than I counted on. It uses a pretty standard rubber compound. It certainly won't win any comps, but offers decent grip for an RTR tire. OD is 3.75 in (95 mm) and width is 1.5 in (38 mm) on 1.9 in wheels.
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11-06-2013, 01:51 PM | #122 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tulsa
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If you had to compare the rubber to a tire that is out now what is it most like? Axial Rtr compound, rc4wd x2ss, proline m3? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk |
11-06-2013, 02:20 PM | #123 |
Newbie Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Corona
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| Re: New Vaterra....
The rubber is probably stiffer than all of those to try and get a little better wear on them. It's pretty similar to the MRC compound. Decent, good to get started with, but probably not something you'd want to compete with or use on other vehicles.
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11-06-2013, 09:02 PM | #124 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: May 2010 Location: albuquerque
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| Re: New Vaterra....
just read this entire thread my god complainers, keep b!tch!ng and the whole damn crawler industry will tell us to "F" off. we're lucky to even have companies wanting to support this sport. why the hell does a select few have to cry every time theres a new release. these companies are looking at the new comers to grow the hobby with the RTR's NOT the experienced guys. what the hell do you want, a full blown, fully outfitted VP rig? if that's what YOU want then don't b!tch when its $1000 out of the box. I fully understand the RTR market, and thank these companies for their support. why is it so hard for you close minded fockers to accept this type of rig for the new comers? YOU TOO WE'RE A NEWBE AT ONE TIME, don't forget that!!! |
11-26-2013, 07:58 PM | #125 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: sacramento
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| Re: New Vaterra....
Looks like a sweet little rig might pick me up one to mess around with.
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12-18-2013, 04:53 PM | #126 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Oceanside Ca
Posts: 159
| Re: New Vaterra....
I got started with an MRC, and ruined it trying to make a scaler. I wish this was out a couple years ago when I started. Its a cool rig and with the listed factory lockers, servo, waterproofing and such it should be a pretty reliable fun rig. I might pick one up for my daughter. I'd rather her break this and learn on it than a much more expensive Axial.
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12-18-2013, 08:44 PM | #127 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Under a Rock in North Texas
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| Re: New Vaterra....
I still run an MRC although pretty far from stock at this point. But my son is coming into rc more and more and I think this would be a great way to upgrade him from his micro trekker. Wouldn't take much to make it a formidable rig either. 4 link, better tires, better shocks, and maybe a better brushed motor running 2s and you'd have a pretty good little performance rig. And of course the existing mrc stuff would fit, so dlux shock relocates, etc. Would make it even better. It's much better than the og MRC rtr for sure. I'm a fan!
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02-04-2014, 09:34 AM | #128 | |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Port Moody, BC, Canada
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| Re: New Vaterra.... Quote:
In the mountain bike world people put an 8 inch travel triple crown fork on a bike designed for a 6 inch fork and then complain when they destroy the frame. In the 1:1 automotive world if you dropped a supercharged big block into a V6 Mustang you would shred its stock axle and transmission destroy the handling and twist the frame if you didn't upgrade them at the same time. So why do people criticize the drive train, suspension and whatever else gets destroyed by up grading only the power by whatever multiple in whatever RC they have? Don't blame the RC take responsibility for not bothering to increase the strength of the attached components by the same multiple you increased the power. As far as the ASM goes I can't see why this is a problem for scalers with this truck when the current king of scalers the SCX 10 also has a MSA. What I can see is a trail trekker version of this truck or at least aftermarket ladder frames for it. I'd just make upper and lower rails my self. Considering how much I like my Losi MC and the price of the Slick Rock and its about half the price of the TH I think the SR may be my next step to bigger scales in RC. Last edited by davemud; 02-04-2014 at 09:45 AM. | |
02-04-2014, 11:30 AM | #129 | |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Port Moody, BC, Canada
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| Re: New Vaterra.... Quote:
I really like my Losi Micro Crawler and Trail Trekker and going with something as familiar as the SR is to me seems like a good idea. Why would you, a Vatarra rep make such an ill conceived blanket statement as the SR won't win any comps? As I've been researching and discussing my next RC purchase "it won't win any comps" or "not a comp crawler" even when I've said I'm not interested comps has become one of my RC pet peeves. I know you would not be aware of my preferences at this point. What you and the others are usually referring to is the expert class at least and typically the modified 1/10 expert class. Is there some reason the SR could not win an unmodified mini or 1.9 class against it peers that potential customers should be aware of? The posts of company reps on any forum like this should more thoughtful and accurate than a generalized statement like "it won't win any comps". I'm glad you read the forums and I think it shows in the Vaterra product line up. I hope a Vattera trail truck is in the works or maybe some trail conversion kits for the TH and SR. The TH suspension setup is actually more representative of most the modern 1:1 truck world than the solid front axle RCs are. One thing I'd like to see for trucks like the TH is a simple easy way to lock the front diff without taking it apart. I don't think it needs to be controlled from the radio. Just a switch on the diff cover or something would be nice. I think its great that Horrizon is using the best parts of its many divisions to create more great products! Last edited by davemud; 02-04-2014 at 11:34 AM. | |
02-04-2014, 11:35 AM | #130 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tri-cities, WA
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| Re: New Vaterra.... Quote:
At least you got the first part right. You apparently don't understand. The screws are junk with a durometer rating slightly higher than boot leather and the factory steering rack is an ill fitting, poorly designed piece of shit. Neither issue is the fault of the end user so tell me what I should be taking responsibility for. The breakage is my fault and no where in my post did I say otherwise. I merely shared my experience. | |
02-04-2014, 12:32 PM | #131 | |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Port Moody, BC, Canada
Posts: 69
| Re: New Vaterra.... Quote:
The steering rack is subjected to increased stress at the higher speeds of the 3s BL power same as the drive train is so it should be expected to fail sooner under higher stress as well if not upgraded. If the steering was poor to begin with the TH is in good company with pretty much every offroad RTR discussed on these and any other RC forum. I don't think there is likely a single post on here about an SCX or Wraith that doesn't list the necessary alloy upgrades to the front axles because the stock ones are not made well enough to do the job they are intended for. Weak RTR steering seems to be an industry standard. I spoke to the lack of any upgrades to support the power upgrade because it is common on every RC forum to see people install power upgrades and nothing else and then criticize whatever broke. That's what happens if you ignore the true cost of upgrading. Thanks for your comments, sorry it upsets you I took them with a grain of salt. | |
02-04-2014, 12:41 PM | #132 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tri-cities, WA
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| Re: New Vaterra....
No worries I'm miles from upset, frazzled or even bothered. The steering rack is crap. Plastic rubbing on plastic in a dirty environment is the cause of its short fall power has/had nothing to do with it since the stock servo was still seeing 6 volts from the sv2 speed control. Have you not noted that replacing the rack is a common procedure and multiple vendors sell parts to do it? I know the axle failed because of the power hence I got rid of the car rather than turn it into yet another money pit of doom. |
02-04-2014, 12:58 PM | #133 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Port Moody, BC, Canada
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| Re: New Vaterra.... Money pit of doom... yeah that pretty much defines RCs and mountain bikes in general. I figure that's why its best to pay the least amount necessary to get the platform I can so I can use it and do upgrades as I go. These things are all going to break if pushed to their limits so I don't try to pop out of binds and such with my micros. I try to stay well within their intended use and haven't broken anything yet even though the LMC has been to Ioco a few times this winter. |
02-11-2014, 11:47 PM | #134 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Gold Coast, AUSTRALIA
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| Re: New Vaterra....
I want one. I only recently got myself a Wraith, and will add a SR to my line up in the very near future. Something else to upgrade as I go. Cheers Grimace |
02-12-2014, 12:03 AM | #135 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Gold Coast, AUSTRALIA
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Also are we going to get a new section for the slickrock or do we head over to the losi mrc section?
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