Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

I'm looking for opinions on the difference in how these two style crawlers operate. what would I notice as a clear difference?

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

shaft driven = torque twist

MOA = no torque twist

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

IMO both are very capable rigs and fun to drive. A MOA 2.2pro will out crawl a shafty 2.2s rig any day.
Main reason is because of the use of front dig, rear burn.

I assume you know the difference between the two.
MOA 2.2pro = motors x2, esc's x2, bodiless chassis allowed.
Shafty 2.2s = motor x1, esc x1, body only.

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

Both good bits of info... I'm pulling toward the MOA style... and yup.. have learned the basic difference..

Now the "pro" & "s" is another story... ;) definitely want performance over looks...

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

I personally think the shafty's of today are becoming more capable then most remember them being. We have found they climb some obstacles easier then MOA, but they both have there differences as well. If your looking at building a competitive rig, I would start with the shafty.

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

Rcbros (will) knows his rc stuff no doubt..
But I'd build a MOA Berg based rig.

Depending on your build shafty rig can be a few bucks cheaper to build.
Before you spend any money read berg bible in the Berg section.
And read thourgh a ton of build threads in ax10, berg, bully, sections.

Btw have a look at Dluxfab.com

http://www.dluxfab.com/#!/Axles-Axle...0&sort=nameAsc

Also if you buy a star you can get access to classifieds section if you're patient enough you'll find a great deal on either moa or shafty/sporty rig or parts.

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

I may be dumb but just looking at most moa rigs and chassis they appear to rely on the dig and power splitting ability far more than proper geometry. Shafties rely on a fixed gearing split and solid geometry these days so it could be a close race in a lot of instances.

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

Bingo! That is why I enjoy the Shafty class. More driver, less escape goat lol.


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Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

Indeed. Pm me here or on bookface with a shafty schedule, you guys are close than the west side guys by a couple hours so odds are better I can make it to play toy trucks with you guys easier. :ror:

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

Shafty rigs are for girls....:lmao: JK "thumbsup"

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

Look up crawling clubs in your area find out what class rigs they run and build a rig you can drive with your local club.
Last season our local club only had 2 sporty rigs. MOA
rigs is our main class. Next season i think we'll have a few more sporty/shafty rigs so I'm looking forward to driving both classes.

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

Looks like I've opened up a split.. lol.
In an ideal world, I'd be able to run both types before dropping the $ on a rig.. i have checked out Delux's offerings but not ready to drop that amount of coin on a set of axles and such... will be looking at picking up a 2nd hand rig here soon., might even be a shifty as I can just drop in an extra motor, esc and servo I have and give er a go...

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

I'll be checking out WRCRC up here.. "thumbsup"

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

Hit up Cboggs here on rcc if you guys are close enough I'm sure he'd let you take both his rigs (MOA & shafty) for a spin @ one of their comps.

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

I'll look him up.. this crawler direction is a whole new learning curve as I've been running 2 & 4wd buggies indoors the past year...

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

Come out to one of the WARCRC comps, get a feel for the rigs, drivers and courses. Then make your decision. Both classes up here are very competitive, you will need a capable MOA to be competitive if that is your thing. Shafty class can be built for a bit less and may be easier to make the transition into crawling. Also, if you decide the comp side is not what you thought it was, a shafty rig can be converted to a scale truck and you can compete/play in that side of the arena if you choose. Both sides along with just plane old trail rides are strong and growing stronger in the NW.

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

If you end up going scale rig. Don't forget your scale rainbow window sticker.

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

Sounds like a plan... I doubt I'd get into comps... my schedule isn't set 100% each week.. more of something to do when free time arises.. "thumbsup"

I'll put it right behind my dolls head... 8)

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

Keep in mind moa is only competitive if you have two esc's on separate channels and a radio that can do the necessary mixes to avoid clod stall and also run front)rear individually when needed, otherwise how with a shafty...

Re: Shaft vs MOA performance?
 

This question is as old as this forum,(maybe older).
Shafty, decent price range and many kits.
MOA, expensive, really only one kit and you'll piss your wife off :shock:.
Whichever you choose, have fun "thumbsup".
Bob