10-19-2017, 06:48 AM | #1 |
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| Cantilever Suspension
This subject has been brought up off and on but not into great detail. Searching and the spelling of 'cantilever' have some play in the matter as well. The Dinky Cantilever seems to be the first 'produced' kit. It uses the 1/16 Mini eRevo rockers. The front and rear rockers are of a different ratio and I haven't determined which one is used. From what I've read the 1/16 gear uses smaller hardware than the traditional m3 associated with 1/10 scale RCs. Also, the common Revo ends used to make links and such will not fit the rockers. Again, lends to smaller hardware. The 1/16 shocks are +/-47mm eye to eye. Yeah Racing Yeah Racing X Dinky RC Cantilever Suspension Kit For Axial SCX10 II Pic of the 1/16 rockers from fleaBay. The Merv has two sizes and looks like 1.5:1 and 2:1. Front and rear I'll assUme. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also any info for lengths between mounting holes is welcome. The Vaterra Twin Hammers uses m3 hardware and is a 2:1 ratio. My TH rockers were 9mm from shock to fixed mount and 19mm from fixed mount to link for axle. I have ordered a set for the Revo 3.3 which were cheap and a long travel setup. This was really just to see what it is all about and I do not expect them to work well at all. I found a good side pic of the long travel kind I ordered. Zoomed in and it looks like a 2.5:1 ratio on one set and 2.25:1 on the other. Lengths are currently unknown. If the 1/16 shocks are 47mm long then I could use the Revo 3.3 shocks that are 80mm and achieve a similar balance. They can be limited internally and externally as needed or a new set of shocks sourced that would fit the bill. There are a couple of Shapeways mounts for the Dinky kit. SCX10 https://www.shapeways.com/product/VV...ionId=58006094 Ascender https://www.shapeways.com/product/5X...ionId=57888163 Last edited by Brake Weight; 10-19-2017 at 08:39 AM. |
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10-19-2017, 06:49 AM | #2 | |
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| Re: Cantilever Suspension
Example of an outboard setup with SCX10 axles and brief explanation of the smaller hardware. Quote:
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10-19-2017, 06:52 AM | #3 | |
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Example of an inboard setup, although it uses homemade rockers. Quote:
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10-19-2017, 07:36 AM | #4 |
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So i was looking for a dinky setup when started thinking... Then went searching and playing. The other night I made my own cantilever setup from spare parts. It's completely rough since I just threw it together but I'll go back through and clean everything up and make it look all pretty. Plus make another for the other side. This is gonna use 90mm shocks and seems to really work well. I think it's gonna be a great setup. And best of all... Free. Sent from my Z981 using Tapatalk |
10-19-2017, 08:59 AM | #5 |
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Good idea. I've got some of these for a droop kit that could be used. |
10-19-2017, 03:33 PM | #6 |
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Good thread! Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk |
10-19-2017, 05:09 PM | #7 |
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I've been running the twin hammers set up for over a year on an ascender chassis. It was very easy to do. D90-T Ascender(ish) https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sha...9&share_type=t Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
10-19-2017, 05:35 PM | #8 |
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Good deal. What shocks are those? You've got a lot of preload it looks like. |
10-19-2017, 06:05 PM | #9 |
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I put the parts I took off my Twin Hammers on an SCX frame. All the stock Twin Hammers parts plus a pair of suspension lift plates for the mounting bracket. All stuff I just had sitting around. Works awesome. I also checked when I put it together, all the parts are less than the Dinky kit if I was to buy them and do another cantilever. |
10-19-2017, 06:09 PM | #10 | |
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Can you post some pics of the max flex? Looks like this is the way to go. | |
10-19-2017, 06:36 PM | #11 | |
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Don't mind the TRX4 take off wheels. They were within arms reach. They're for sale if anybody happens to be interested... | |
10-19-2017, 07:32 PM | #12 |
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That's not bad at all. So you've never actually wheeled it but it looks like it may do well. I went ahead and ordered a set of Twin Hammer's rockers for $6. Can't hurt to try to duplicate something like what you've got going.
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10-19-2017, 07:45 PM | #13 | |
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I ordered the softest springs available for the TH shocks. They seem to be pretty good and the whole suspension reacts just like an upright shock. I assume this would wheel pretty good. The guy who won our clubs scale class 2 season runs cantilever rear so I know it can work. | |
10-20-2017, 06:07 AM | #14 |
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10-20-2017, 06:11 AM | #15 |
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10-21-2017, 08:51 AM | #16 | |
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Screw buying kits so you can be like every other prick out there. Hand fabrication is where this hoby started. Was just cruising hobbyking.com and found these . They look like they'd be a perfect addition to your setup. | |
10-21-2017, 12:16 PM | #17 |
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10-21-2017, 12:43 PM | #18 |
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@WHITE-TRASH Those aluminum arms look like a good and cheap setup and offers easy tuning ability. My mail lady brought my Traxxas fleaBay pull off kit of Revo 3.3 nitro pieces. A whole lotta stuff for $6. I think I'll give these a go at some point my when I get time to tinker. For the math gurus out there. 1st set Long side is 43mm to 20mm to the mounting pivot. Mounting pivot back to link end is 38mm to complete the triangle. 2nd set Long side is 43mm to 15mm to the mounting pivot. Mounting pivot back to link end is 40mm to complete the triangle. |
10-21-2017, 03:18 PM | #19 | |
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10-21-2017, 04:46 PM | #20 |
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If your looking for some cheap shocks, look into the yeti jr front shocks. They are scx shocks but shorter at 45mm-62mm. |
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