04-10-2021, 11:05 AM | #1 |
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| Link risers
General questions about upper link risers: I saw that they decrease rear squat and make the truck climb better, is this true? Is it only necessary to raise one end of the link? For example, I have seen add-on link risers for the rear axle side, and for the chassis side. I am thinking about the scaler fab skidplates with built-in link risers, will I get the climbing improvement if I raise the link at the chassis side only or do I need to raise the link at the axle too? Are there other mods that must go along with raising the link to get the advantage? i.e. laying forward the rear shock Thanks! |
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04-11-2021, 08:27 AM | #2 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: california under the rock im crawling on
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| Re: Link risers
link geomitry is kinda a personal prefferance if your soft on the throtle and slow crawl everything with vary little full throtle your set up will be different than if your heavy on the throtle and prefer more of a bouncer style of driving and diferent again if your alittle of both there is no right or wrong just how the rig feels to the person driving it from what i understand from what ive herd from the 1:1 guys is to set the suspension at a netral or 0 anti squat then tune the suspention with the shocks personaly i leave the front stock and add alittle squat in the rear with link risers trying to get that big zero |
04-11-2021, 08:36 AM | #3 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Caldwell ID.
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| Re: Link risers
For a technical read... Another 4 Link Thread I have been in the hobby a long time, but still struggle to wrap my head around Anti Squat... but my understanding is lifting the front of the rear links up increases anti squat on a scx skid increasing anti squat allowing better climbing. |
04-11-2021, 09:40 AM | #4 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: california under the rock im crawling on
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i think thats backwards but i could be wrong to bad that link dosent have pictures anymore it would probably make more sense if it did i think it was busted knuckes on youtube that did a break down on anti squat and how it relates to rock bouncers and crawlers it made alot of sence if you can find it watch it yup https://youtu.be/UzayUxQCWaY Last edited by ferp420; 04-11-2021 at 10:42 AM. |
04-11-2021, 11:05 AM | #5 |
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| Re: Link risers
Thanks for the replies and the links, I will get into those and do some learning. My application is more crawling than bouncing. Appreciate the info, all. |
04-11-2021, 03:56 PM | #6 | |
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| Re: Link risers Quote:
There's a lot of other numbers at play, but I wouldn't go chasing numbers. If you have a problem behavior you could plug your setup into a 4-link calculator and see if there's something out of whack. | |
04-11-2021, 04:29 PM | #7 | |
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| Re: Link risers Quote:
For 1:1, I think the only place you'll see 0, or really low AS, would be high speed desert stuff, though there are surely others. My current setup in my crawler is 68% anti-squat. I think anywhere on the 50-100% range is common for crawlers. Jake does a great job explaining the basic concepts. | |
04-11-2021, 04:42 PM | #8 |
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| Re: Link risers
Also, here are some risers I made for front and rear on my crawler. Just a simple aluminum plate to allow 2 higher mount positions so I could experiment with anti-squat and anti-dive numbers. |
04-11-2021, 07:58 PM | #9 | |
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04-11-2021, 09:45 PM | #10 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: california under the rock im crawling on
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04-12-2021, 02:09 AM | #11 |
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| Re: Link risers No offense but your posts are hard to read |
04-12-2021, 05:55 AM | #12 | |
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04-12-2021, 08:12 AM | #13 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: california under the rock im crawling on
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| Re: Link risers why thank you sir thats the nicest thing anybody has sead to me all day
Last edited by ferp420; 04-12-2021 at 08:15 AM. |
04-12-2021, 11:22 AM | #14 |
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04-12-2021, 12:12 PM | #15 |
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| Re: Link risers
So if I understand it correctly moving the upper link mount upwards on the chassis will equal less anti-squat than stock, and moving the link up on the axle will lead to more anti-squat. Next step, when I get the parts, will be to experiment and see which one improves climbing performance. Fun times ahead! |
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