11-18-2021, 03:25 PM | #21 |
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The specs page on the website lists no change in wheelbase, length, or height
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11-18-2021, 05:00 PM | #22 |
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11-19-2021, 08:20 AM | #23 |
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I've watched a few videos, and, based on what I think I'm seeing, now I really don't like this new Capra. The rear "steering" isn't really steering...at least, not accurately, or in the traditional sense. Worse, not only does the percentage not correlate to the front steering...but, it also appears to be completely independent of the front. It uses a 'toggle' switch for controlling the rear, of which there are 5 pre-programmed positions: 100% left, 50% left, centered, 50% right, 100% right. When I built my first 4WS rig (a Capra, of which the only Axial parts were the cage, and the only other Capra parts being a 3D-printed skid (for AX10-style 3-gear trans), and the CF & aluminum body panels), it was done in the way (pretty much) everyone else does their 4WS setups - with the rear steering equal to the front, and the four traditional modes (front only, rear only, opposite, and crab walk). What I don't get...and, I'm thinking a lot of others don't get...is why Axial didn't set up the 4WS Capra the same way. Instead of using the toggle switch for setting the rear into these 5 pre-programmed positions (which ISN'T "steering"), they could have set the toggle for switching between the 4 above-mentioned steering modes. It's fantastic that Axial took notice of all the 4WS converted Capra, and decided to release an RTR with 4WS...but, as far as I'm concerned, the implementation of that 4WS is a 'FAIL'. ~ More peace, love, and kindness would make the world a much better place |
11-19-2021, 09:03 AM | #24 |
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If I was looking at a new Capra and my first 1/10 scale rig, between the two versions is there one that would be recommended over the other?
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11-19-2021, 09:24 AM | #25 | |
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11-19-2021, 09:26 AM | #26 | |
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11-19-2021, 09:36 AM | #27 |
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I thought the kit was the first version available?? I got mine in early in the release of the kit and was excited that it was actually a kit and not an RTR with equipment that I would ultimately replace. Either way I think the rear steer option is set up out of the box to keep it simple for a new driver. Setting up my Capra with the 4WS using my DX5C took some time initially, and getting the aux switch to cycle the modes in the order I wanted took some time so I'm sure it's to keep the end user from being frustrated.
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11-19-2021, 10:00 AM | #28 | |
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However, with the 'new' C3 rig I'm currently working on (carrying over the same axles), my "plan" is to have fully independent front & rear steering. I'm not saying Axial should have gone this route (obviously, doing so would have required a different Tx)...but, the least they could/should have done would have been to use the switch for the 'traditional' (4 modes). Having only 100% & 50% to choose from really isn't much of a "choice", if you know what I mean. Imagine if a forklift (a rear-only vehicle) had only 50% & 100% 'positions'. ~ More peace, love, and kindness would make the world a much better place | |
11-19-2021, 11:04 AM | #29 |
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In this video, it looks like upgrading the transmitter could solve the independent steering issue. That transmitter is $$$ though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K0e6rRmg24 |
11-19-2021, 12:33 PM | #30 |
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I just want the red cage, really. My Capra is already 4WS, and has the exact components I want in it. This smacks of laziness on Axial's part, IMO. Anyone can put together 4WS on their Capra with off-the-shelf parts should they be so inclined, so I don't see any innovation here with this "new" offering.
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11-19-2021, 01:24 PM | #31 |
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| Re: New Capra? It’s not supposed to be innovative, the RTR Capra needed to be updated to the current generation of Horizon RTR electronics thus a “new” version was released. They could have just changed electronics and offered some different colors but fact they added 4 wheel steer and redesign the cage to accommodate the rear servo is a pleasant little addition.
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11-19-2021, 08:38 PM | #32 |
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For the extra $50 axial is asking for, its seems like a good deal to me. If this was out in a kit when i bought mine, it would have been a no brainer.
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11-20-2021, 02:09 PM | #33 | |
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11-20-2021, 02:19 PM | #34 | |
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Can confirm, considering the axial Capra universals are $50 alone before portal boxes and steering links. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk | |
11-23-2021, 11:58 AM | #35 | |
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I'd agree it would be nice to have the option to select proportional counter steering [along with the front] too, but in practice, 1:1 rock buggies with rear-steer tend to have the rear steering system completely independent of the front too. What is remiss is that they didn't package this RTR with a 4-channel radio so you could also use the DIG out of the box. | |
11-24-2021, 07:46 AM | #36 |
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11-29-2021, 09:57 AM | #37 |
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11-29-2021, 10:32 AM | #38 | |
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11-29-2021, 10:33 AM | #39 |
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| Re: New Capra? It would potentially negate a lot of the front drag/tight turn benefit certainly, however a DIG is still useful on really steep descents as a rear axle drag-brake to help stop the rear end overtaking the front and flipping forwards.
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11-29-2021, 10:41 AM | #40 | |
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