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CCFBERG · 08-12-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by aggressivellc

Stuff like this is why r/c rock is the fastest growing segment of the hobby. We all suffer from CLSA (cant leave sh** alone) Keep up the good work man and if you decide to get that star let me know.

Ya I got that sickness BAD!! Just ask my wife! ha ha. Thanks for the comments! And what did you mean by get that star? I have a star I thought??? Or do you mean the Vender star?

Cslax06 · 08-12-2007, 04:54 PM

After the first page I just skimmed throught the thread but...

Did you happen to get it set up on a truck yet? It looks amazing but bulky, becuause of all the components.

CCFBERG · 08-13-2007, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cslax06

After the first page I just skimmed throught the thread but...

Did you happen to get it set up on a truck yet? It looks amazing but bulky, becuause of all the components.

In the process of mounting everything now, I am still building my rig so Im fabricating everything as I go so eveything fits perfectly. It realy isnt bulky at all and my desighn keeps the components to a minimum and out of sight on my rig! You wont even see anything but the steering actuator and the hoses, but hoses are cool right! And the sight of a hydraulic actuator for steering on a TLT based crawler is way cool! So I would say its a binnifit!

The only other thing you will see is the manifold with the bleeders under the hood but thats not at all bulky! The hoses will be steel braided as I have my own unique idea for that as well. Stay tuned it will be done soon and I will post pics as soon as its all plummed!

nonstopboost · 08-15-2007, 06:55 PM

sweet

toy4crawlin · 08-21-2007, 10:58 AM

Hey Nice job, very detiled
that all looks great but ahh where's the rest How are the hydro tubes hooked up

speedsport22 · 08-23-2007, 06:14 PM

This is great. I would buy one of these if it where available.

CCFBERG · 08-23-2007, 06:27 PM

Thanks!!! I still need to test this on the rocks and if it works flawlessly I may decide to sell these systems. As for now, like I said before I still need to finnish my rig so I can go test all this stuff out. Im in Vegas for the next week and a half so there has been a little delay for now. Ill keep this thread up to date as I get closer so check back!

LIKES2CRAWL · 09-02-2007, 12:54 PM

Are you back from Vegas yet, where's the updates?

CCFBERG · 09-05-2007, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LIKES2CRAWL

Are you back from Vegas yet, where's the updates?

Actualy just got back today and was just headed down to my shop but figured I would stop by and see whats going on here. Updates soon I promise! Are you coming to the comp on Sat?

Red Rockcrawler · 09-05-2007, 10:13 PM

It's on sunday not saturday.

CCFBERG · 09-06-2007, 11:34 AM

Ya thanks I just figured that out yesterday he he

CCFBERG · 09-15-2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RCJunkie80

Copyright that sh!t and make some $$$.

Looking into it (copyright)

, just got some info sent to me on friday to start that process.

Thorsteenster · 09-15-2007, 08:03 PM

I work at patent/copyright firm that specializes in small inventors. You might want to check us out before going with another firm.
http://www.litmanlaw.com/

HndsWthtShdws · 10-05-2007, 07:36 PM

Like I said before and people keep denying, there is no mechanical advantage here. This post is aimed at no one in particular but I want everyone to understand.

If you decrease the master dia it will need to be longer to compensate for he lost volume, which means longer servo horns and less power applied. If you increase the slave dia you will have to compensate for the lack of travel by mounting the steering links closer to the knuckle's axis of rotation, which means less leverage. If you use shorter servo horns you get more power applied to the masters, but their diameter will have to increase or the slave's dia will need to decrease to make up for the lack of travel. Same thing if you want to mount the steering links closer to the knuckle's axis of rotation.

A standard servo moves around 60 degrees in .15 seconds right? Its still moving the same here and the end result is the same, there is no magical way to create extra power. If you still think its possible to keep the servo and amount of steering travel the same while increasing torque, give me the scenario and I will tell you why it wont.

I would still pay an arm and a leg if I had ones to spare for this setup. This is something that has been done very few times and it looks extremely scale. I really like it, especially because you are hand building it.

microgoat · 10-05-2007, 08:59 PM

Most servos have nearly 180 degrees of travel in them, far more than a TLT axle will allow you to use. The extra travel can be used to pump a smaller, skinnier master cylinder. Ergo, mechanical advantage.

Even if there's a performance disadvantage this thing is just too damn cool

I know what it's like to build 'em "just because." Well done.

colonelangus · 10-06-2007, 12:49 AM

very nice work , i would like to see it finished

redrustbucket · 11-04-2007, 09:28 AM

Here's an idea instead of using a servo horn. It's similar to a winch on a sailboat. You could remove the pot from the servo to get enough rotation. It wouldn't self center just like 1:1 hydro steer. You could use a really small drum and get retarded torque provided you can get enough winds around it to keep it from slipping. There's probably a flaw in it somewhere but I thought I would throw it out there.

I think it would work for a non hydro set up as well. Simply replace the servo horn with a drum remove the pot and attach the line to the knuckles replacing the drag link.

trailduster79 · 11-05-2007, 11:33 AM

any updates?

vids of it on the rocks?

buggy · 01-13-2010, 05:24 PM

i know this is a old thread but did anything come of this?

cruiserkb · 01-13-2010, 07:20 PM

Yes!

My Tuber build, Hydraulic Steering, Custom Hubs, Front Dig with Disk Brake, lots of p

10-06-2007, 12:49 AM	#76
colonelangus I joined the Band! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: mission b.c canada Posts: 233	hydro steer very nice work , i would like to see it finished

11-04-2007, 09:28 AM	#77
redrustbucket Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: sunny acres Posts: 621	Would this work? Here's an idea instead of using a servo horn. It's similar to a winch on a sailboat. You could remove the pot from the servo to get enough rotation. It wouldn't self center just like 1:1 hydro steer. You could use a really small drum and get retarded torque provided you can get enough winds around it to keep it from slipping. There's probably a flaw in it somewhere but I thought I would throw it out there. I think it would work for a non hydro set up as well. Simply replace the servo horn with a drum remove the pot and attach the line to the knuckles replacing the drag link. Attached Images

08-12-2007, 04:54 PM	#62
Cslax06 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Syracuse Posts: 384	After the first page I just skimmed throught the thread but... Did you happen to get it set up on a truck yet? It looks amazing but bulky, becuause of all the components.

08-15-2007, 06:55 PM	#64
nonstopboost Quarry Creeper Join Date: May 2007 Location: home Posts: 369	sweet

08-21-2007, 10:58 AM	#65
toy4crawlin I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Campbell, CA 4 hrs 2Rubicon ! Posts: 2,044	Hey Nice job, very detiled that all looks great but ahh where's the rest How are the hydro tubes hooked up

08-23-2007, 06:14 PM	#66
speedsport22 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mankato, MN Posts: 109	This is great. I would buy one of these if it where available.

08-23-2007, 06:27 PM	#67
CCFBERG Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ramstein Air Base Germany ...ya Ive been Ramshafted Posts: 567	Thanks!!! I still need to test this on the rocks and if it works flawlessly I may decide to sell these systems. As for now, like I said before I still need to finnish my rig so I can go test all this stuff out. Im in Vegas for the next week and a half so there has been a little delay for now. Ill keep this thread up to date as I get closer so check back!

09-02-2007, 12:54 PM	#68
LIKES2CRAWL I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: KENNEWICK, WA Posts: 2,513	Are you back from Vegas yet, where's the updates?

09-05-2007, 10:13 PM	#70
Red Rockcrawler Trying to have Fun Again Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In your fridge stealing a beer Posts: 2,923	It's on sunday not saturday.

09-06-2007, 11:34 AM	#71
CCFBERG Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ramstein Air Base Germany ...ya Ive been Ramshafted Posts: 567	Ya thanks I just figured that out yesterday he he

09-15-2007, 08:03 PM	#73
Thorsteenster I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,377	I work at patent/copyright firm that specializes in small inventors. You might want to check us out before going with another firm. http://www.litmanlaw.com/

10-05-2007, 07:36 PM	#74
HndsWthtShdws Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 341	Like I said before and people keep denying, there is no mechanical advantage here. This post is aimed at no one in particular but I want everyone to understand. If you decrease the master dia it will need to be longer to compensate for he lost volume, which means longer servo horns and less power applied. If you increase the slave dia you will have to compensate for the lack of travel by mounting the steering links closer to the knuckle's axis of rotation, which means less leverage. If you use shorter servo horns you get more power applied to the masters, but their diameter will have to increase or the slave's dia will need to decrease to make up for the lack of travel. Same thing if you want to mount the steering links closer to the knuckle's axis of rotation. A standard servo moves around 60 degrees in .15 seconds right? Its still moving the same here and the end result is the same, there is no magical way to create extra power. If you still think its possible to keep the servo and amount of steering travel the same while increasing torque, give me the scenario and I will tell you why it wont. I would still pay an arm and a leg if I had ones to spare for this setup. This is something that has been done very few times and it looks extremely scale. I really like it, especially because you are hand building it.

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01-13-2010, 05:24 PM	#79
buggy RCC Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: NHFF world headquarters, working on the "rock mauling hill shooting NHFF pig squealing death rocket" Posts: 1,134	i know this is a old thread but did anything come of this?

10-05-2007, 08:59 PM	#75
microgoat I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 8,009	Most servos have nearly 180 degrees of travel in them, far more than a TLT axle will allow you to use. The extra travel can be used to pump a smaller, skinnier master cylinder. Ergo, mechanical advantage. Even if there's a performance disadvantage this thing is just too damn cool I know what it's like to build 'em "just because." Well done.

11-05-2007, 11:33 AM	#78
trailduster79 Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Windsor, VA Posts: 573	any updates? vids of it on the rocks?

01-13-2010, 07:20 PM	#80
cruiserkb Rock Crawler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: gilbert Posts: 613	Yes! My Tuber build, Hydraulic Steering, Custom Hubs, Front Dig with Disk Brake, lots of p

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