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buggynutt · 08-01-2010, 12:25 PM

I am building a frame for my ax-10.. I was hoping that someone could give me some pointers. I cant seem to get anything to bend the way i want it. I have tryed to bend several things and was tryin do it with heat, with out heat and it keeps folding or twisting. Im tryin to use channel so it looks like a real frame. Do i need to cut and weld or is there a way to bend this stuff? Im stuck and would like any advice...I am building it to go under my new bright jeep body

thank for any help

2brokefor1:1 · 08-01-2010, 05:45 PM

Ive seen guys have pretty good luck bending square tubing ,then cutting it in half. Vise and torch plus some elbow grease to bend.

or just pick yourself up some used scx10 framerails

looking great so far....

buggynutt · 08-02-2010, 12:34 AM

thanks... i was goin to get the scx frame but its to short to get bumpers mounted right..i set the body on my daughters scx to check, didnt really like the way it sat. i like the tubing idea, and i have a little extra elbo grease so i will give it a go

thanks again

2brokefor1:1 · 08-02-2010, 06:59 AM

Ah yes you're right. It is short for that body. Just FYI a company named gcm makes a chassis that fits pretty well. I think its called the cross canyon.

mascman · 08-06-2010, 01:40 PM

I saw a build where the guy just cut the SCX frame in the middle and added a piece to extend it...seemed like an easy fix.

I was looking at this body on my SCX frame and it looks like a pretty straight-forward project. I would just make extended mounts for the bumpers if I were going to do it.

blukon98 · 08-07-2010, 03:45 PM

I've seen some people build their own frames, Ive wondered about doing this also, ive done some 1:1 scale metal work, but idk about work this small. I wonder what types of tools would be involved in getting it to be so straight and making making two to match up nearly perfect has to be harder than it looks...

CUSTOMHILUX · 08-07-2010, 04:28 PM

Thats sweet!

TAT76 · 08-07-2010, 05:39 PM

Keep us posted on what you find and do. Some day in the future I would like to try this and lots more..lol

buggynutt · 08-09-2010, 10:12 PM

74hr workin last week and weekend...not much progress on the crawler. I will get some stuff goin this week...i hope lol. I picked up a welder,oxy setup, vices and everything i think i might need to do this up right..ohh i got the keg filled also..

buggynutt · 08-21-2010, 11:35 PM

i bought some square tubing today and im goin to try to get a frame built tomorrow. I was thinking about a build video for bending a frame or maybe just alot of step by step pics.. What would everyone like to see? I will only post it all if it turns out good or maybe I will post mistakes as well so others can learn what not to do.

adamargue · 08-22-2010, 01:27 AM

A video would be sweet I've been wanting to attempt this. I made a few frames out of 1/4 band steel that works really well.

buggynutt · 08-26-2010, 10:56 AM

i started to layout my frame and got 13.25in wheelbase, is this to long for ttc? I want to build this up so i can run it in scale comps/ttc. if i go with a shorter wb it wont line up with the wheel wells.. any thoughts or ideas

thanks

R2j · 08-26-2010, 11:05 AM

Nope, your fine for scale stuff, TTC or comps.

By the way, I'm up in Johnstown I seen you posted in "Fortcrawlness" thread in the CO section.

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggynutt

i started to layout my frame and got 13.25in wheelbase, is this to long for ttc? I want to build this up so i can run it in scale comps/ttc. if i go with a shorter wb it wont line up with the wheel wells.. any thoughts or ideas

thanks

buggynutt · 08-26-2010, 12:58 PM

is the extra inch going to cause any trouble with the drive shafts? im running the mip shafts

R2j · 08-26-2010, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggynutt

is the extra inch going to cause any trouble with the drive shafts? im running the mip shafts

Are you running the ones for the SCX or for the AX? I run the AX ones and would have plenty of room to stretch out. Just try and do it equally.

buggynutt · 08-26-2010, 01:08 PM

i have the ax style..i have to move the tranny towards the rear just a tiny bit so it tucks under the body better, i would say about 1/8.

R2j · 08-26-2010, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggynutt

i have the ax style..i have to move the tranny towards the rear just a tiny bit so it tucks under the body better, i would say about 1/8.

I think it should be fine. Now I'm curious, I'll look at my FJ when I get home, it is at 12.5", and if I can remember right, I don't think any if at all of the splines are showing. And also, they are made for the AX being at 12", so roughly 5/8" longer to both sides wouldn't be too much.

buggynutt · 08-26-2010, 04:13 PM

thanks.. I got the frame bent but didnt get to video it because the wife has are cam. i will get some pics of it bent.. im stuck on the cutting the tube in half

i dont have a band saw except a porta ban and that didnt work well at all on a test cut. help with ideas please...thanks

TAT76 · 08-26-2010, 05:01 PM

I've wondered about this part, I think I would just take it to a shop and pay..lol

buggynutt · 08-26-2010, 05:40 PM

bending the tube was easy and very hot...just made template and then heat up tubing until it was red hot where i wanted the bend and pulled it to the angle i wanted.... NOTE: DONT start your frame bending at the end of the tube!!!! say your frame is 18in long, i would buy 4ft piece of tubing and bend your frame frome center and cut off extra. if you dont do this it will be harder to get the leverage you will need to bend it smothly. I would also drill any holes you need or at least a couple for reference points before you cut tubing in half to make them all line up perfect. MORE TO COME!! will have some pics up later tonight.. hope this is good info

08-01-2010, 12:25 PM	#1
buggynutt RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: fort collins Posts: 969	building frame??? I am building a frame for my ax-10.. I was hoping that someone could give me some pointers. I cant seem to get anything to bend the way i want it. I have tryed to bend several things and was tryin do it with heat, with out heat and it keeps folding or twisting. Im tryin to use channel so it looks like a real frame. Do i need to cut and weld or is there a way to bend this stuff? Im stuck and would like any advice...I am building it to go under my new bright jeep body thank for any help

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08-01-2010, 05:45 PM	#2
2brokefor1:1 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 230	Ive seen guys have pretty good luck bending square tubing ,then cutting it in half. Vise and torch plus some elbow grease to bend. or just pick yourself up some used scx10 framerails looking great so far....

08-02-2010, 12:34 AM	#3
buggynutt RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: fort collins Posts: 969	thanks... i was goin to get the scx frame but its to short to get bumpers mounted right..i set the body on my daughters scx to check, didnt really like the way it sat. i like the tubing idea, and i have a little extra elbo grease so i will give it a go thanks again

08-02-2010, 06:59 AM	#4
2brokefor1:1 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 230	Ah yes you're right. It is short for that body. Just FYI a company named gcm makes a chassis that fits pretty well. I think its called the cross canyon.

08-06-2010, 01:40 PM	#5
mascman Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Near Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 911	I saw a build where the guy just cut the SCX frame in the middle and added a piece to extend it...seemed like an easy fix. I was looking at this body on my SCX frame and it looks like a pretty straight-forward project. I would just make extended mounts for the bumpers if I were going to do it.

08-07-2010, 03:45 PM	#6
blukon98 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tupelo Posts: 353	I've seen some people build their own frames, Ive wondered about doing this also, ive done some 1:1 scale metal work, but idk about work this small. I wonder what types of tools would be involved in getting it to be so straight and making making two to match up nearly perfect has to be harder than it looks...

08-07-2010, 04:28 PM	#7
CUSTOMHILUX Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Syracuse Posts: 455	Thats sweet!

08-07-2010, 05:39 PM	#8
TAT76 RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: your back yard Posts: 1,305	Keep us posted on what you find and do. Some day in the future I would like to try this and lots more..lol

08-09-2010, 10:12 PM	#9
buggynutt RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: fort collins Posts: 969	74hr workin last week and weekend...not much progress on the crawler. I will get some stuff goin this week...i hope lol. I picked up a welder,oxy setup, vices and everything i think i might need to do this up right..ohh i got the keg filled also..

08-21-2010, 11:35 PM	#10
buggynutt RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: fort collins Posts: 969	i bought some square tubing today and im goin to try to get a frame built tomorrow. I was thinking about a build video for bending a frame or maybe just alot of step by step pics.. What would everyone like to see? I will only post it all if it turns out good or maybe I will post mistakes as well so others can learn what not to do.

08-22-2010, 01:27 AM	#11
adamargue RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tulsa Posts: 1,667	A video would be sweet I've been wanting to attempt this. I made a few frames out of 1/4 band steel that works really well.

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08-26-2010, 10:56 AM	#12
buggynutt RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: fort collins Posts: 969	i started to layout my frame and got 13.25in wheelbase, is this to long for ttc? I want to build this up so i can run it in scale comps/ttc. if i go with a shorter wb it wont line up with the wheel wells.. any thoughts or ideas thanks

08-26-2010, 12:58 PM	#14
buggynutt RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: fort collins Posts: 969	is the extra inch going to cause any trouble with the drive shafts? im running the mip shafts

08-26-2010, 01:08 PM	#16
buggynutt RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: fort collins Posts: 969	i have the ax style..i have to move the tranny towards the rear just a tiny bit so it tucks under the body better, i would say about 1/8.

08-26-2010, 04:13 PM	#18
buggynutt RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: fort collins Posts: 969	thanks.. I got the frame bent but didnt get to video it because the wife has are cam. i will get some pics of it bent.. im stuck on the cutting the tube in half i dont have a band saw except a porta ban and that didnt work well at all on a test cut. help with ideas please...thanks

08-26-2010, 05:01 PM	#19
TAT76 RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: your back yard Posts: 1,305	I've wondered about this part, I think I would just take it to a shop and pay..lol

08-26-2010, 05:40 PM	#20
buggynutt RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: fort collins Posts: 969	bending the tube was easy and very hot...just made template and then heat up tubing until it was red hot where i wanted the bend and pulled it to the angle i wanted.... NOTE: DONT start your frame bending at the end of the tube!!!! say your frame is 18in long, i would buy 4ft piece of tubing and bend your frame frome center and cut off extra. if you dont do this it will be harder to get the leverage you will need to bend it smothly. I would also drill any holes you need or at least a couple for reference points before you cut tubing in half to make them all line up perfect. MORE TO COME!! will have some pics up later tonight.. hope this is good info

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