Let's talk scale....

[virnoche]

Did you ever REALLY calculate out scale of many of these kits? Bodies etc? Example.....the RC4WD D90 is not 1/10th scale....it is actiually about 1/8.79 scale. The Cruiser Body is closer to 1/8th. The very popular MHPC Jeep bodies are also 1/8.79 scale....
Why do the mfg's say 1/10th when they really aren't even close to true 1/10th scale?

Tires....same thing....accessories same thing.....

Just curious.

[Mnster]

Yeah the whole market is really a wash of sizes.

I find there is basic sizes of trucks the bodies and products are marketed to.
1/12 Traxxas rally, Tamiya mini so on.
1/10 Traxxas Slash, SCX10 so on.
1/8 Traxxas revo, big 1/8 buggies and so on.
1/4 big stuff you know what there is.

So when someone has to make a Ford F-350 and a Suzuki Samurai fit a 1/10 SCX10 they call them all 1/10 (the truck they fit) to avoid confusion. This is because a actual 1/10 Ford F-350 would fit different then a actual 1/10 Suzuki Samurai. To have a 1/10 F-350 and a 1/7 Samurai as listed sizes would just confuse people when they are buying for a 1/10 truck.

[TacoCrawler]

^ coupla' other popularly supported scale sizes...

1/36 - 1/18 micro's/minis

1/5

Because popularity is where the most money/aft mkt support is...
the 1/10 scale sizes seem most supported.

And is why I have one.


But I personally dig 1/6 scale...
because it's scaled for the 12" articulated figures/dolls.
And there are many figure choices/options available
if creating realism (or Doll playing/Lol) is the venture.

^ Unfortunately 1/6 scale is not supported by the rc industry, that I see.

1/10 scale figures can be found, fairly easy, as well.
Probably another reason as to why !? ...the 1/10 scale's popularity.

I'll suppose not everyone cares about driver figures...
nor doll playing in this rc crawler hobby.
Some just wanna haul butt and break things !? Lol

But I like that I can obtain different size chassis (scale)
so that I can mix and match 'dem up a little bit.
And build my custom creations.

ie:

constructing an 1/6 scale atv/quad...
...by using an 1/18 scale rc chassis/e components and a 1/6 toy body.

dr. frankenstein would be pleased



We should be grateful that we are overwhelmed with so many choices
some people in the world aren't so privileged.

[rustneversleeps]

it's been talk about before....how about HO scale.

[virnoche]

You guys are missing the point......I get the whole many scales to choose from idea......but truthfully I have YET to see a true 1/10th scale anything. They are close to being 1/10th scale until you measure them out and find out they are really 1/8.79 or even farther off.....
It seems as though the mfg's of these kits have put items into buckets where they just call it close enough.....it's fine but it makes aligning things up a bit harder.

[rustneversleeps]

well if you think it close to 1/8.79 then divide that buy the size of the whatever 1.1 item you want to scale down or is it multiple...

so if the wheelbase is 156" divide by 10 you get 15.6 scale inches..
there scale....and if you want to opposite multiple like scx10 13.50 WB
you get 135 inches divide by 10 you get 13.50' FT...
get mix up now.lol
but in your case..156'' divide by 8 you get 19.5 WB...
there scale talk.....i would think there more thread on here that will define scale......

[virnoche]

Originally Posted by rustneversleeps

well if you think it close to 1/8.79 then divide that buy the size of the whatever 1.1 item you want to scale down or is it multiple...

so if the wheelbase is 156" divide by 10 you get 15.6 scale inches..
there scale....and if you want to opposite multiple like scx10 13.50 WB
you get 135 inches divide by 10 you get 13.50' FT...
get mix up now.lol
but in your case..156'' divide by 8 you get 19.5 WB...
there scale talk.....i would think there more thread on here that will define scale......

I'm very familiar with calculating scale! but thanks for the tip!
My newest build is even within 1/4 lb of scale weight! Its a Gelande with the MHPC Jeep body.
It is actually not 1/0th scale......its 1/8.79 based on a 270mm wheelbase.

The 'SCALE' tires from Maxxix (Trepador) are scale 40" inchers on this beast....I'll post up some pics when complete. I'm building this as close to real as possible based on a picture of a jeep I took while travelling....

[virnoche]

Originally Posted by rustneversleeps

you get 135 inches divide by 10 you get 13.50' FT...
get mix up now.lol

Did they change the ruler from 12" per ft to 10" per foot? When did THIS happen!

LOL above is actually 135" divide by 12 it's actually a scale version of a 11.25' something or another! But I know what you were trying to show...

[rustneversleeps]

Cool ! Do you have a build thread. I like to see that.....

[rustneversleeps]

Originally Posted by virnoche

Did they change the ruler from 12" per ft to 10" per foot? When did THIS happen!

LOL above is actually 135" divide by 12 it's actually a scale version of a 11.25' something or another! But I know what you were trying to show...

I may be wrong but it all depends on the scale of the rc.If your rig is 1/8.79 multiple that and you should get the real 1:1 size wheel base....
But if it's 1/12 scale divide by 12'' ...i think that how it works...
frigg you getting me all mix up now.....to many numbers....lol
Just drive your rig. from far away just pretend it's 1/10 scale.....

[virnoche]

Originally Posted by rustneversleeps

I may be wrong but it all depends on the scale of the rc.If your rig is 1/8.79 multiple that and you should get the real 1:1 size wheel base....
But if it's 1/12 scale divide by 12'' ...i think that how it works...
frigg you getting me all mix up now.....to many numbers....lol
Just drive your rig. from far away just pretend it's 1/10 scale.....

Here's how MY math works......not sure about yours! :P

Jeep Wheelbase 1:1 is 93.4 inches.
The scale body is 10.62 inches.
so 93.4/10.65 is 8.79. So the revised scale of the build is now 1/8.79

The RC4WD Galande Defender kit has a wheelbase of 10.8 inches. The real defender is 93" wheelbase. So for all practical purposes same math. In this case backwards.....take 93/10.8 and you have 1/8.61 scale. The Cruiser body is the same 10.8 but real life is 90" so it's scale is actually 1/8.333 make sense?

[spoo76]

Originally Posted by virnoche

You guys are missing the point......I get the whole many scales to choose from idea......but truthfully I have YET to see a true 1/10th scale anything. They are close to being 1/10th scale until you measure them out and find out they are really 1/8.79 or even farther off.....
It seems as though the mfg's of these kits have put items into buckets where they just call it close enough.....it's fine but it makes aligning things up a bit harder.

Not as much in the crawler world, but Ive seen a few "true scale" car kits that are smaller than the typical 1/8 advertised as 1/10/ I forget the manufacturer, But I believe the product line was called true scale. As far as crawlers years ago before the Proline Cherokee was available there was a German made true scale 1/10 hard body fiberglass resin Cherokee that had incredible detail. Unfortunately the site is no more, the builder may still post on here though. It was noticeably smaller than the Proline which is closer to 1/8. There are plenty of builds on here if you do some searching for ScaleOffroad Cherokee. Most Ive seen were 1.55 & a few 1.9

EDIT did some google searching. the cars were from HPI and called "True 10 scale"

[mud-sweat-gears]

Originally Posted by rustneversleeps

it's been talk about before....how about HO scale.

Yeah! It used to be 1/87 and now it is 1/64

[BigSki]

Originally Posted by mud-sweat-gears

Yeah! It used to be 1/87 and now it is 1/64

wrong- 1/64 scale is 'S' scale, always has been.

[Mike Flea]

Originally Posted by mud-sweat-gears

Yeah! It used to be 1/87 and now it is 1/64

..and 1/87 scale will always be HO, The only "scale" that becomes sketchy is G scale, as it covers 1/20, 1/22.5, 1/24, 1/29, & 1/32 scales. It all depends on which size you want to model your railroad, but they all use the same track. What changes is how you view your track "gauge", which is the distance between the rails for that particular scale.

...now that we've gotten off topic...

[pardonmyn00b]

1/10 is a general blanket scale that covers "crawlers and scale vehicles". It too drives me insane when trucks that are 1/8 scale are marketed as 1/10. The Yeti is called 1/10. ON WHAT PLANET IS THAT 1/10 SCALE?! We have Tamiya to blame for this since they released the original Hilux as 1/10 scale, which it is not. It's 1/9. At least that's who I'm going to blame.

I build all of my scratch bodies to 1/9 scale to match the Hilux/Mojave. The hard body JKs fit in there too.

I would like to start a movement to get manufacturers to list he correct scale of trucks and accessories.

[rcwolf]

Originally Posted by BigSki

wrong- 1/64 scale is 'S' scale, always has been.

You are correct if you are talking about model railroads. However, HO slot cars are now 1/64 and have been for quite a while.

[BigSki]

Originally Posted by rcwolf

You are correct if you are talking about model railroads. However, HO slot cars are now 1/64 and have been for quite a while.

HO stands for Half O. O scale is 1/48 scale. HO is 1/87 scale. When you get into the nitty-gritty of model railroad scales, EVERYTHING is based on mm's, so things get rounded up to a convenient full fractional equivalent.

Since there is nothing else in the model category at 1/64th scale, those slot cars are not H.O scale. Maybe the manufactures are throwing out that nomenclature as a reference point, but it is incorrect.

[rcwolf]

Originally Posted by BigSki

HO stands for Half O. O scale is 1/48 scale. HO is 1/87 scale. When you get into the nitty-gritty of model railroad scales, EVERYTHING is based on mm's, so things get rounded up to a convenient full fractional equivalent.

Since there is nothing else in the model category at 1/64th scale, those slot cars are not H.O scale. Maybe the manufactures are throwing out that nomenclature as a reference point, but it is incorrect.

I am aware of model railroad nomenclature having been into HOn3 model railroading for some time.. HO slot cars used to actually be 1/87 scale I still have some old bodies that are scaled correctly. However, over time they grew and now are the same size as Hot Wheels cars which are 1/64. So despite the fact that they still call them HO slot car sets they are in fact no longer the correct (model railroad) scale, but they are still referred to as being HO and sold as being HO. So for model trains HO is 1/87, for slot cars HO is now (and has been since the 70's or 80's) 1/64 regardless of where the HO reference originally came from and since the original quote didn't say if he was referring to trains or slot cars he was technically correct.
Anyway were off topic and it was just a silly bit of trivia that I was trying to point out. Generally speaking, I agree with you.

[BigSki]

Originally Posted by rcwolf

I am aware of model railroad nomenclature having been into HOn3 model railroading for some time.. HO slot cars used to actually be 1/87 scale I still have some old bodies that are scaled correctly. However, over time they grew and now are the same size as Hot Wheels cars which are 1/64. So despite the fact that they still call them HO slot car sets they are in fact no longer the correct (model railroad) scale, but they are still referred to as being HO and sold as being HO. So for model trains HO is 1/87, for slot cars HO is now (and has been since the 70's or 80's) 1/64 regardless of where the HO reference originally came from and since the original quote didn't say if he was referring to trains or slot cars he was technically correct.
Anyway were off topic and it was just a silly bit of trivia that I was trying to point out. Generally speaking, I agree with you.

I hear you, not trying to bust ballz or anything like that. FWIW, HOn3 was the last model train scale that I was into.