1.9 Barrage RTR 1/10 Crawler

[David Wile]

Hey folks,

For those who may be interested in a source for low cost servos and other parts, I found AliExpress to be a good place to search. Most items can be found from vendors who include shipping in the cost of same. Shipping is from China, so things are not going to arrive the next day. Most items for me arrived between seven and fourteen days. Perhaps 60% arrived fourteen and twenty-one days. One order for four batteries took five weeks until I finally received them. This order was lost somewhere and then delivered to someone (not I) in California four weeks after ordered. The vendor then sent a replacement order which arrived in just one week.

Here are a few of the items I ordered:

Servos:

JX brand PDI-6221MG 20KG torque digital servo - ($12.99 delivered)
Operating Speed (4.8V): 0.18 sec/85°
Operating Speed (6V): 0.16 sec/85°
Stall Torque (4.8V): 17.25 kg.cm (239.55oz/in)
Stall Torque (6V): 20.32 kg-cm (281.89 oz/in)
The wire may be an inch short and may require a short extension.

Tower Pro MG996R 12KG torque - ($5.81 delivered)
Gear Type: All Metal Gears with double ball bearings
Operating Speed: 0.17sec / 60 degrees (4.8V no load)
Operating Speed: 0.13sec / 60 degrees (6.0V no load)
Stall torque: 12kg/cm(6V)

Tower Pro SG5010SL 11KG servo - ($6.26 delivered)
Operating Speed (4.8V no load): 0.14sec / 60 degree
Operating Speed (6V no load): 0.11sec / 60 degree
Stall Torque (4.8V): 8 kg/cm or 110oz/in.
Stall Torque (6V):11kg/cm or 156oz/in.
Double Ball Bearing

YW Battery - LiPo 7.4V 2200 mAh 25C - ($10.50 delivered)
LED Light Set: Four lights (2 white/2 red) with mounting brackets - ($1.55 delivered)
Aluminum Servo Horns (23T, 24T, and 25T from $1.60 to $2.02 delivered)

All the items I received have been good quality products. They have a lot of RC stuff if you do a search for it. Give them a look.

Best wishes,
Dave Wile

[shortboxchevy]

heres mine,.i put 1.55 rock stompers on it with steel wagon wheels,.i did the suspension mods and removed the front battery brace,.it articulates nice now,.i weathered the wheels to go along with the new body I'm working on(prolines 66 ford pickup)

[Pilot_MM]

Any one try 3S on the stock ESC?

-M

[f150monster]

Stock is good for 3s if you run an external bec.

[bob_suruncle]

Originally Posted by Pilot_MM

Any one try 3S on the stock ESC?

-M

Here are the ESC Specs from the dealer site:

Forward: Yes
Reverse: Yes
Brake: Yes
Time Delay Brake: Yes
Continuous Maximum Current: FWD: 60A REV: 30A
Input Voltage: 2-3S Lipo, 5-9 cells NiMH/NiCd
Input Connector Types: EC3
Output Connector Types: 3.5mm Tamiya style bullet
Motor Limit: 2S Lipo/6cell NiMh >=8T 540/550 closed endbell motors, 3S Lipo/9cell NiMh >=13T 540/550 closed endbell motors
Momentary Peak Current: FWD: 360A REV: 180A
Length: 1.48 in (37.5mm)
Width: 1.46 in (37mm) without tabs, 2.23 in (56.6mm) with tabs
Height: 0.71 in (18mm)
Weight: 1.41 oz (40g)
BEC Voltage: 5V
PWM Frequency: 1KHz
Overload Protection: Yes
Full On Resistance: .0008 ohms
Wire Gauge: 16AWG
Auto Cutoff: Yes

Originally Posted by shortboxchevy

heres mine,.i put 1.55 rock stompers on it with steel wagon wheels,.i did the suspension mods and removed the front battery brace,.it articulates nice now,.i weathered the wheels to go along with the new body I'm working on(prolines 66 ford pickup)

What suspension mods did you do? I can see you out-boarded the shocks and removed the battery brace ..... I was unable to outboard my shocks without tire interference so very curious what you did to get that much articulation. I will be switching to 1.55 wheels and tires which may solve the interference issues but would love more details / pics! inquiring minds want to know!

[hillbillyrc]

Shocks still look in Stock location, he might have just removed the bump stops on the Shocks.

[David Wile]

Hey Bob,

Based on the ESC Specs, it would seem 3S LiPo batteries would not be a problem for the Barrage ESC. I just bought two 2S LiPo batteries which I would not have done if I had known better.

Like you, I am bewildered as to how one moves the shocks outside the frame. I do not know if I would actually move mine, but I would like to know how it is done.

Best wishes,
Dave Wile

[hillbillyrc]

It's not straight forward and takes some playing with. I got them out boarded but not to my liking. Check out my thread it shows everything.

RGT bronco

This is what I used
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Losi-B1446-Out...653?nav=SEARCH

[bob_suruncle]

Originally Posted by hillbillyrc

It's not straight forward and takes some playing with. I got them out boarded but not to my liking. Check out my thread it shows everything.

RGT bronco

This is what I used
Losi B1446 Outboard Shock Spacer Kit: MRC | eBay

I tried exactly what you did using the MRC outboard kit and got interference between tire and shock.... but I did not move the shock to the lowest mounting hole like you did. Going to give this another go using RC4wd ultimate scale shocks with the internal springs to get a bit more clearance.

[hillbillyrc]

MRC Rear RTR Bomb Proof Shock/Link Mounts - Black - Billet Works Designs
MRC Front Bomb Proof Shock/Link Mounts - Black - Billet Works Designs

These were my next option if I were to keep the stock axles and it has been confirmed to work with ecx temper axles (same axles but axle shafts) , but I just stepped up to bigger axles instead.

[shortboxchevy]

Originally Posted by bob_suruncle

What suspension mods did you do? I can see you out-boarded the shocks and removed the battery brace ..... I was unable to outboard my shocks without tire interference so very curious what you did to get that much articulation. I will be switching to 1.55 wheels and tires which may solve the interference issues but would love more details / pics! inquiring minds want to know!

nope I didn't outboard the shocks,.i cut the limiters off all 4 shocks,..fixed the rear driveshaft,.i cut about a 1/2 inch off the inside of it and I removed the front battery brace for servo clearance,.it worked out really well,..its nice because I have 2 barrage's 1 for the wife and mine so I can compare them after I do mods to mine

[j.krug]

Originally Posted by bob_suruncle

very curious what you did to get that much articulation.

I flipped the chassis braces that the battery tray screws to over to gain more clearance for the steering servo and trimmed about .200" off the rubber travel limiters on all four shock shafts. I have the same amount of articulation by doing those two mods. I also went to a slightly smaller tire (DC Mud Country) and have no rubbing issues.

[Mark Chua]

Hey guys, I'm new to this scene. Am from the Philippines but often times visit San Fo.

Just bought my ECX Barrage last night, and looks nice for a newbie like me. Planning to upgrade the battery and get a fast charger too. any recommendations? I prefer to just get a plug and play LiPo with no modifications needed or NiMh battery if there will be no plug and play LiPo. i wouldn't want to damage my new rig and being a newbie too. thanks guys! cheers!

[rcguy2012]

Can someone tell me which servo would be a good replacement steering servo for my Barrage? Mine failed after only a couple runs.

[hillbillyrc]

There has been a few mentioned, on the ecx website they even give an optional servo. But any one with 15kg of torque should be fine. You can find them on ebay for 20-30 dollars

[Pilot_MM]

Originally Posted by rcguy2012

Can someone tell me which servo would be a good replacement steering servo for my Barrage? Mine failed after only a couple runs.

I am very happy with this one Hitec 645MG Its on sale right now too.

-M

[David Wile]

Hey folks,

Here are some good high torque/low cost standard sized replacement servos available for the Barrage from AliExpress. They range in price from $5 to $15 delivered to your door.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/JX-P...704841331.html

JX brand PDI-6221MG 20KG torque digital servo - ($14.35 delivered)
High-precision aluminum gears with hard anodizing
Dual ball bearings
Operating Speed (4.8V): 0.18 sec/85°
Operating Speed (6V): 0.16 sec/85°
Stall Torque (4.8V): 17.25 kg.cm (239.55oz/in)
Stall Torque (6V): 20.32 kg-cm (281.89 oz/in)


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Stan...6-ed6c0ffeb992

Tower Pro MG996R 12KG torque - ($4.72 delivered)
Gear Type: All Metal Gears with double ball bearings
Operating Speed: 0.17sec / 60 degrees (4.8V no load)
Operating Speed: 0.13sec / 60 degrees (6.0V no load)
Stall torque: 12kg/cm(6V)


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High...608.0.0.tKDOV3

Tower Pro SG5010SL 11KG servo - ($7.67 delivered)
Operating Speed (4.8V no load): 0.14sec / 60 degree
Operating Speed (6V no load): 0.11sec / 60 degree
Stall Torque (4.8V): 8 kg/cm or 110oz/in.
Stall Torque (6V):11kg/cm or 156oz/in.
Double Ball Bearing


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HDKJ...0-4ea19eb7d025

HDKJ D3615 15KG Torque Digital Servo - ($8.68 delivered)
Metal Gear 180 Degree Rotation
Size:40*20*40.5
Speed: 0.18sec/60 degree at(6v) & 0.16sec/60 degree at(7.2)
Torque: 14kg..at(6v) & 15kg..at(7.2)
Voltage: 4.8v-7.2v

AliExpress is a good source for RC parts and equipment as well as many other things. Prices may go up or down slightly from week to week, and many vendors include shipping in the cost of the item.

Shipping is from China, so do not expect items to arrive in two days. However, many items arrive within seven to fourteen days. Most items arrive within three weeks, but some things occasionally take longer.

If you want something delivered within three days no matter what the cost, order it locally or better yet go to your local hobby shop and pay whatever. If you want good product at really good prices and are able to wait a week or so, check AliExpress.

Best wishes,
Dave Wile

[bob_suruncle]

Did some work on mine over the weekend.

Integy Winch with remote installed on on the stock Barrage bumper, installed an antenna on the back bumper and installed some RC4WD rock sliders. Also added some diamond plate and cut the lower edge off the body... looks much better!



Here she is with a 1/18 Temper hanging off the winch. It will lift the temper with no issues! The bumper brackets flex a bit but this will mostly be used for straight pulls so should be no issues



Antenna is just a piece of piano wire in a hole drilled in the back bumper. Dab of CA on top to cover the pointy bit and painted black



And lastly a shot on the rocks in front of the store.



Got a set of RC4wd 1.5 steelies with Dick Cepek's coming next week

[hillbillyrc]

What rock sliders are those? The look good.

[bob_suruncle]

Originally Posted by hillbillyrc

What rock sliders are those? The look good.

They are RC4WD #S1371 RAMPAGE SIDE GUARDS. Fit perfect with only a couple of holes drilled.