A new Axial thing, not the last new thing but another new thing.

[JSterrett]

Meh. Was really hoping for something new/different enough to pull me away from my current TRX-4 obsesssion (1.9 Wraith was close)... Oh well, maybe next release...

And I'm not even going to try and argue value/quality. I've just had 3 different 10.2s now, and have sold off all 3 for TRX-4 stuff, lol...

[roadrashracing]

No thank you, not my cup of tea.

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[Alteredgasser57]

I guess I'm the odd one out because I kinda want one. However, I do think axial needs to do more to differentiate this 10 II from the other releases. especially other kit releases. The nice thing with kits are that the manufacturer can put money that would have been used for the electronics and assembly into upgrade parts that the rtr doesn't have, so why didn't axial make this kit match the 350 price point of the 2000 Cherokee kit (though it is kinda nice that this kit is at a lower price point) , but include, for example, a two speed tranny out of the box (instead of the Separate purchase add-on) or behind axle steering or something. Something small enough to keep it affordable, but big enough to make the truck stand out.

[kind325]

Is axial teasing a 1.9 bomber with that 1.9 KR2 at the bottom of the stack?

[Joshs4x4toyz]

Someone on FB asked the other day. No response in the Axial post

[txbart]

Originally Posted by kind325

Is axial teasing a 1.9 bomber with that 1.9 KR2 at the bottom of the stack?

Is that tire stack supposed to be a teaser for Axial things to come? If so, then I’d bet on a Jeep JL or Gladiator coming down the pipe.

[dezfan]

I like it, with the exception of the grill. ����

[Ragenwraith]

Kinda confused here...Axial made it look like a Unimog which have portal axles (1.1)...This does not...But why does Traxxas and RedCat have portals but use a Pickup and a Scout II body...And they are all supposed to be scale rigs??? Just say'n...

[smog]

Originally Posted by kind325

Is axial teasing a 1.9 bomber with that 1.9 KR2 at the bottom of the stack?

Good eye. Why wouldn’t they be right? The Bomber does follows the Wraith.

[calcagno45]

Originally Posted by svt923

The manual and parts listing on Axial's site list AX31405 as the gears which are the machined gears from the Cherokee kit, is there somewhere better than the manual that says otherwise?

https://www.horizonhobby.com/1-10-sc...kit-p-axi90075
The Horizon site for the UMG10 shows the same picture for the axles as used with the Honcho, sintered and one piece ring gear and locker. In which they took the time to make the off cover gray in the picture as opposed to Red with the Honcho. Hoping that default pic is wrong and that the machines gears are in there.

[JatoTheRipper]

Originally Posted by soze

Close...

No, I really did go to the LHS to get paint to finish up the TRX4 Sport kit (quickest way to get paint).

The UMG10 was definitely a planned side-mission though. Had to wait for them to enter it into the computer to be purchased.

Originally Posted by karajabola

Why is it priced lower than the Cherokee kit? Looks like it’s got better stuff.

Good question. It has the older transmission style and the housing is probably cheaper on the books to make because that mold has probably been amortized by now. Although the old style transmission is more complicated and probably more expensive internally with the gears and shafts.

This truck has the one-piece axles which have to be cheaper to make.

It does have all new tires and new beadlock wheels rather than glue on.

Jeep licensing also surely has to play a part in it.

You have to remember this is a short wheelbase at 11.4" versus the Cherokee which is 12.3". That's where the trucks become most different IMO.

[svt923]

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

Good question. It has the older transmission style and the housing is probably cheaper on the books to make because that mold has probably been amortized by now. Although the old style transmission is more complicated and probably more expensive internally with the gears and shafts.

It is possible the mold is fully depreciated (tangible assets depreciate, intangible assets get amortized) depending on the method of depreciation and estimated useful life determined by management. A quantity of units or hours of production method of depreciation is acceptable but a useful life rated in years is the most common method. Companies commonly use the IRS tables of estimated useful life which rates specialty tooling as a 3 year asset. Depending on when the molds for the original SCX10II kit parts were considered "placed in service", those molds may be past year 3. Although for tax purposes, they were likely fully depreciated in the first year under Sec. 179 rules. Don't worry about the difference in depreciation between the book and tax methods, those will be reconciled on the Schedule M-1 of the corporation's Form 1120.

There is your nerdy accounting lesson for the day.

I also think it is possible they are pulling the transmissions that were destined for Cherokee kits because that won't be around much longer.

[JatoTheRipper]

Originally Posted by svt923

It is possible the mold is fully depreciated (tangible assets depreciate, intangible assets get amortized) depending on the method of depreciation and estimated useful life determined by management. A quantity of units or hours of production method of depreciation is acceptable but a useful life rated in years is the most common method. Companies commonly use the IRS tables of estimated useful life which rates specialty tooling as a 3 year asset. Depending on when the molds for the original SCX10II kit parts were considered "placed in service", those molds may be past year 3. Although for tax purposes, they were likely fully depreciated in the first year under Sec. 179 rules. Don't worry about the difference in depreciation between the book and tax methods, those will be reconciled on the Schedule M-1 of the corporation's Form 1120.

There is your nerdy accounting lesson for the day.

I also think it is possible they are pulling the transmissions that were destined for Cherokee kits because that won't be around much longer.

Where the heck were you a few days ago when I paid to have my taxes completed?!

[svt923]

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

Where the heck were you a few days ago when I paid to have my taxes completed?!

Probably not doing my own taxes.

[Jim85IROC]

Originally Posted by kind325

Is axial teasing a 1.9 bomber with that 1.9 KR2 at the bottom of the stack?

Yay. More 1.9 crap to push 2.2s out of existence. I swear I'm the last person on earth that still likes 2.2s.

[lonleycreeper]

Originally Posted by Jim85IROC

Yay. More 1.9 crap to push 2.2s out of existence. I swear I'm the last person on earth that still likes 2.2s.

You are not!

I like 2.2's and BIG trucks.

[CM9000]

Not alone. Im building a C3 later this year.

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[DukeMinnix]

For anyone considering and wanting scale accuracy, we all probably know SSD has the portal conversion for the AR44s, but deadlock racing is just released their portal conversion also, although I have to say from the photo I saw, I really don't like the tie rod mounting method they used.

[Brandon]

Pretty sure those BFG's are the 2.2/3.0's from the Yeti TT. An excellent scale tire for SC rigs btw

Originally Posted by Ty@Tekin

Another great offering to add to the huge list of great available rigs on the market. I like it, smaller Mogs aren't really my favorite but this one looks good. I like the wheels and tires!

How dare you!! Short wheelbase Unimogs are the best.

Originally Posted by Ragenwraith

Kinda confused here...Axial made it look like a Unimog which have portal axles (1.1)...This does not...But why does Traxxas and RedCat have portals but use a Pickup and a Scout II body...And they are all supposed to be scale rigs??? Just say'n...

If this had been released a few years ago nobody would complain. The portal takeover that has occurred in the 1.9 scale market baffles me.

[Matt.k]

Originally Posted by Brandon

If this had been released a few years ago nobody would complain. The portal takeover that has occurred in the 1.9 scale market baffles me.

I don't think many realize the amount of engineering and time it takes to make product right and get it to market. Just simply making a set of portals to fit under an SCX10 II chassis and making sure everything clears and allows full range of motion AND proper steering geometry isn't an easy task. How long do you estimate it took to design the VP portal axles? Let alone tool them up, sample, and then get to market?



Axial really didn't get rolling until a few months post Horizon buyout, and there is still really only one guy working on product design... so you have to prioritize getting things to market quickly to jump start product flow vs. making the product right. I am pretty sure there are some great things in the works and the product side will get better and better as time progresses..



I got one of those Staples easy buttons.. but no matter how many times I hit it... It still hasn't made this job easy.