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Pappy · 10-19-2010, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pappy

How is your current supply of matched 35T's? I assume this is the recomended set for the Bergs as I see alot them out there. Also what is the best all around timing to order these at? Looking for a sweet blend of power and longevity as well. I'm interested in ordering soon.

Thanks!!!!

Placed my order for a pair of 35T's. Work your magic, whatever is best on V1 Berg Axles.

Pappy · 10-19-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

I have about 5 pairs left. 35t is the most popular for bergs, that is what I ran on mine mostly.

I would recommend about 6 degrees of timing, although with the standup brush you can get away with zero up to about 15 degrees. The standup brush is a good blend of power and longevity. If you want a bit more punch we could use a laydown brush or go to a 4mm web with larger wire diameter. Typically I just keep the 5mm web with 21awg wire and standup brushes on the site. The differences in construction make small changes in power overall, and I see no need to confuse people with 10 different builds that are all about the same.

6 degrees is cool. These are gonna be sweet!!!

JohnRobHolmes · 10-19-2010, 10:55 AM

Thanks! They will be shipping out in a day or so.

Pappy · 10-19-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

Thanks! They will be shipping out in a day or so.

Thank you!!

TrademarkJeff · 10-19-2010, 05:34 PM

I have Berg axles and I'm looking at getting a matched pair of your 35t brushed motors. I'm wanting to know what timing you would recommend. Why have 0 timing verus 6? How would you break in your motors? Thanks

JohnRobHolmes · 10-19-2010, 05:53 PM

Running 0 timing is generally done when the user wants lower power. On the 45t and 55t motors it works great. On the 35t motor it tends to wear on the comm more than 6 degrees. 6 degrees of timing is a good compromise without having too much power and risk of high stalling amperages. Higher timing will wear the motor faster, lower timing wears on the motor slower IF it is a slow enough motor to keep arcing to a minimum.

TrademarkJeff · 10-19-2010, 07:23 PM

Ok so 6 degrees. How would you break your motors in? I will be placing a order for two matched 35t motors and a esc on Thursday

JohnRobHolmes · 10-19-2010, 07:30 PM

I run them in around 3.5 to 5v depending on the wind for 6 minutes, and then for non serrated brushes I do another 5 to 7 volt run for 2 minutes.

Pro motors have serrated brushes and don't really even need breaking in, but I do it anyway.

TrademarkJeff · 10-19-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

I run them in around 3.5 to 5v depending on the wind for 6 minutes, and then for non serrated brushes I do another 5 to 7 volt run for 2 minutes.

Pro motors have serrated brushes and don't really even need breaking in, but I do it anyway.

So how do I set up to run them around 3.5 to 5v for break in? I'm gonna break them in since you said you do it anyway

JohnRobHolmes · 10-19-2010, 10:43 PM

two cells nimh, once cell lithium, or a low voltage power source is needed.

strawb · 10-20-2010, 04:29 AM

hi john ..... got me a set of your 45T matched pairs ..... i'll be running them with mamba micro's on 1200mah 3s lipo ..... any idea if i'll smoke the micros with this set-up?

JohnRobHolmes · 10-20-2010, 06:56 AM

I don't recommend the micros, but plenty of people run them with 35t motors on 3s and they work. Sometimes they smoke.

NeXt559 · 10-20-2010, 01:30 PM

any word on when the 45t matched prohandwiound sets will be available again?

JohnRobHolmes · 10-20-2010, 03:02 PM

I'm guessing about 4 to 6 weeks. I don't have any fresh teardowns to build new motors with, and am waiting on Sagami to make them. We had more of a rush with Nats and the XR10 release than expected.

strawb · 10-21-2010, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

I don't recommend the micros, but plenty of people run them with 35t motors on 3s and they work. Sometimes they smoke.

now that just burst my confidence bubble

anyways we'll see if it smokes up

Pappy · 10-21-2010, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

We had more of a rush with Nats and the XR10 release than expected.

Are you kidding....People know where to go when they want the best competition motors......I've admired your motors since I got into crawling.

strawb · 11-06-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

I don't recommend the micros, but plenty of people run them with 35t motors on 3s and they work. Sometimes they smoke.

just an update ..... the micros are doing very well with the HH 45T's!!!!

Krakker · 11-07-2010, 06:53 PM

I"ve been looking for a motor set for my Bully, I've been wanting to try a 35t/40t combo or a 30t/35t combo using the same pinions to combat stall.
I've used some popular but cheap brand motors in a 35T/45T combo with a different pinion for the rear with good success, but I want better control and power.
Is a set like the 35T/40T a good thing? and could they be made into a package combo?

JohnRobHolmes · 11-08-2010, 08:19 AM

35/40 wouldn't be a bad idea. I personally don't like running motors like that, but if you have had success I don't see a reason to advise against it.

I don't have any motor combos right now. Just pick them up individually. I will be getting more motors done tomorrow and will update inventories.

greenjeeper92 · 11-13-2010, 08:07 PM

When will you have some matched 45ts in stock?

10-19-2010, 10:55 AM	#43
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Thanks! They will be shipping out in a day or so.

10-19-2010, 05:34 PM	#45
TrademarkJeff Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wilmington Posts: 126	I have Berg axles and I'm looking at getting a matched pair of your 35t brushed motors. I'm wanting to know what timing you would recommend. Why have 0 timing verus 6? How would you break in your motors? Thanks

10-19-2010, 05:53 PM	#46
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Running 0 timing is generally done when the user wants lower power. On the 45t and 55t motors it works great. On the 35t motor it tends to wear on the comm more than 6 degrees. 6 degrees of timing is a good compromise without having too much power and risk of high stalling amperages. Higher timing will wear the motor faster, lower timing wears on the motor slower IF it is a slow enough motor to keep arcing to a minimum.

10-19-2010, 07:23 PM	#47
TrademarkJeff Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wilmington Posts: 126	Ok so 6 degrees. How would you break your motors in? I will be placing a order for two matched 35t motors and a esc on Thursday

10-19-2010, 07:30 PM	#48
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	I run them in around 3.5 to 5v depending on the wind for 6 minutes, and then for non serrated brushes I do another 5 to 7 volt run for 2 minutes. Pro motors have serrated brushes and don't really even need breaking in, but I do it anyway.

10-19-2010, 10:43 PM	#50
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	two cells nimh, once cell lithium, or a low voltage power source is needed.

10-20-2010, 04:29 AM	#51
strawb Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UAE in the GCC Posts: 480	hi john ..... got me a set of your 45T matched pairs ..... i'll be running them with mamba micro's on 1200mah 3s lipo ..... any idea if i'll smoke the micros with this set-up?

10-20-2010, 06:56 AM	#52
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	I don't recommend the micros, but plenty of people run them with 35t motors on 3s and they work. Sometimes they smoke.

10-20-2010, 01:30 PM	#53
NeXt559 RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Fresno Posts: 1,464	any word on when the 45t matched prohandwiound sets will be available again?

10-20-2010, 03:02 PM	#54
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	I'm guessing about 4 to 6 weeks. I don't have any fresh teardowns to build new motors with, and am waiting on Sagami to make them. We had more of a rush with Nats and the XR10 release than expected.

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11-07-2010, 06:53 PM	#58
Krakker I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Where freedom is earned. Posts: 2,011	I"ve been looking for a motor set for my Bully, I've been wanting to try a 35t/40t combo or a 30t/35t combo using the same pinions to combat stall. I've used some popular but cheap brand motors in a 35T/45T combo with a different pinion for the rear with good success, but I want better control and power. Is a set like the 35T/40T a good thing? and could they be made into a package combo?

11-08-2010, 08:19 AM	#59
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	35/40 wouldn't be a bad idea. I personally don't like running motors like that, but if you have had success I don't see a reason to advise against it. I don't have any motor combos right now. Just pick them up individually. I will be getting more motors done tomorrow and will update inventories.

11-13-2010, 08:07 PM	#60
greenjeeper92 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: East Greenville Posts: 226	When will you have some matched 45ts in stock?

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