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08-16-2016, 11:19 PM | #241 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Big Island
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!
Here, I made a Google Sheet template that you can plug in different values to get theoretical top speeds: https://goo.gl/E5CwOB It's makes a good comparison tool. I know my Wraithzilla is about as fast as my wife's stock Yeti, her on 2s me on 3s and an AX2 tranny. I've estimated the speed via GPS at about 23mph. At that speed though, the Wraith gets pretty difficult to control. The CG is too high and solid front axle is a bitch at speed. I tried for a long time to get that Wraith to be fast and crawl well but in the end I built a new rig for pure crawling. I haven't had any heat issues with my Holmes setup. IIRC, the top motor temp I recorded was around 140F. |
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08-18-2016, 10:02 PM | #242 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Dunkirk, NY
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!
Here is a question I haven't seen asked previously. I had it all decided that I was going to get the 3500kv std and ble for my mattzilla wraith. Now I am wondering if I should do the ble and 3500xl. The XL would still be a 50,000 rpm motor right? And the only difference would be a little less startup control and extra overall power? Only reason I am thinking that now is because I have a summit I may be customizing too. And down the road may put this esc and motor in that. Would a standard 3500 and ble work good in a summit with huge tires and alum wheels or would I for sure need the XL for that truck? The summit would be estimated between a 12 and 15 lb truck |
08-19-2016, 06:18 AM | #243 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Raleigh-ish vicinity
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power! Quote:
For a Summit, I wouldn't use a Puller XL. The Summit has tons of room for a huge ESC, 1/8 scale motor with 75+ mm can, and 4-6S batteries; why risk things running hot with a smaller ESC and motor running 3S? I'm sure the Puller XL has the grunt to get a Summit moving but it probably wouldn't be very happy doing it. | |
08-21-2016, 12:56 AM | #244 | |
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08-23-2016, 07:16 PM | #245 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Dunkirk, NY
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power! |
08-24-2016, 05:33 AM | #246 |
owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power! You have a radio or throttle profile issue if talking about the smoothness of throttle. If talking about the hammer dropping punch of a full trigger grab, the mmx will deliver more if gearing and motor and battery allow.
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08-24-2016, 05:39 AM | #247 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Hampton Roads
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!
Hey John, I've been considering the CC 2650kv brushless motor for awhile and became interested in this when I saw it was brushless, sensored and waterproof. Which version would be equivalent to the performance of the CC 2650kv motor? Thank you Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk |
08-24-2016, 05:55 AM | #248 |
owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!
I think that is an 8th scale motor. How about you tell us what your plans are, otherwise I could be telling you to put the wrong motor into a e-revo or something.
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08-24-2016, 06:29 AM | #249 | |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Hampton Roads
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power! Quote:
I don't care for the cogging that non sensored brushless motors do when you give it a little power but hadn't seen a waterproof sensored brushless till I saw this. Also was planning to pair with a CC MMX esc. Hope that helps | |
08-24-2016, 01:32 PM | #250 |
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!
I run the 540 standard in my 4x4 lcg stampede, it's rather nutty using the 3500kv and 3s. The xl would be the most powerful and has 5mm shaft. I twist shafts too easy with the 540, the extra 1/4 to 1/2 lb for a larger motor will only make that worse.
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08-31-2016, 08:26 PM | #251 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Surprise
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!
^^^Agree^^^ I run the standard 540 w/MMX on 3s in my Bomber. I made the mistake of pulling full throttle in the driveway. I'd say it was about a 1 1/2 standing backflip. |
09-02-2016, 12:10 AM | #252 |
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power! Couldn't tell a difference crawling and or smoothness wise (other than not listening to a fan the whole time) but when you give it 100% from a stand still the MMX makes the mmp look weak
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09-02-2016, 06:00 AM | #253 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Hampton Roads
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!
Are there any videos of the 540 standard 2700kv motor? Sent from my SM-N930T using Tapatalk |
09-16-2016, 10:15 AM | #254 |
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!
Any word on when the 3500 xl's will be in stock?
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09-16-2016, 10:45 AM | #255 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Deep in the Everglades
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power! Quote:
As stated great for slash 4x4, but it is not a sensored motor HANG UP AND DRIVE ! | |
09-16-2016, 10:56 AM | #256 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Hampton Roads
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!
Yeah, I was curious about the slash but recently picked up a 1/10 yeti so not sure if the 2650 would be a good motor for the yeti or not or what gearing would be a good match for it
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09-16-2016, 02:06 PM | #257 |
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09-17-2016, 07:48 PM | #258 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Austin
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!
My unused PP 2200kv is heading your way on Monday to be swapped out! Excellent news...
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09-23-2016, 01:07 PM | #259 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NE Ohio
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!
I may have missed it somewhere, is a 2650/2700 XL available or in the plans? I'm wondering if this on 4s would be better than the 3500/3800 motors I've been running on 3s More thinking heat wise? 3500xl in my yeti and 3800 castle in my SMT. On 3s currently. I killed the yeti motor and the SMT seems to lack the grunt and the temps are higher than I'd like. Something in my head tells me 2650/2700 on 4s would be a better option, and well since I have to buy a motor anyway.... |
09-23-2016, 03:15 PM | #260 |
owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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| Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!
The esc will typically run a shade cooler using lower Kv and higher voltage. Motor won't run different though. If you have plenty of 3s packs, use a 3500. The XL is overkill anyway. I've got folks running stubbies in the smt10 and breaking parts. A standard 4500 on 3s is what I'll be throwing in. |
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