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JohnRobHolmes 04-06-2008 03:27 PM

Mann0mann- that battery isn't quite enough. For the 10t I would say you need at least a 1600 15C pack.

TK- I can't tell you if it will fit. How much room is around a normal 540 motor in the rig?

Contracted- I have 7t Pullers available for presale on the site again.

JohnRobHolmes 04-06-2008 03:33 PM

Cobalt Puller 7t--limited stock
 
http://holmeshobbies.com/skin1/images/Guido.jpg

I have a new batch of 7t Cobalt Pullers, 4 in stock and 40 going to the machinist on monday.

These can be shoehorned into an sw3 with an r2 tranny, but they are longer motors than a standard 540. The torque is much higher than any other brushed motor that works in a crawler. More wheelspeed, more torque, more power in general. With a 7 slot armature you also get much better slow speed control as compared to normal brushed motors. I run these in every one of my rigs now, with exception to a few scale rigs and my really fast bashers. Yes, they are in fact powerful enough to make me leave outrunner motors for a while. My avatar is the armature.

Get your foot in the door while you can, these motors get snatched up quick

http://holmeshobbies.com/product.php...2&cat=0&page=1

Badgers kick ass vid: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=fJS4c36tcjs

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Thorsteenster 04-06-2008 03:54 PM

Good God, that is sick, great vid!

JohnRobHolmes 04-07-2008 08:10 AM

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TxCruzr 04-07-2008 01:56 PM

Not that I need one but I had to get one :-P

cartronicshn 04-07-2008 03:29 PM

Done"thumbsup"

4u2nv 04-07-2008 03:39 PM

Do you have something comparable to this but brushless?

JohnRobHolmes 04-07-2008 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4u2nv (Post 1131164)
Do you have something comparable to this but brushless?

Not really. The pullers have torque, speed, and low speed driveability. The closest brushless would be a novak goat system but they don't have the drag or torque. A fast outrunner would have the torque but not the low speed resolution.

Nabil 04-07-2008 05:19 PM

got one too for my prerunner/crawler

cartronicshn 04-07-2008 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 1131287)
Not really. The pullers have torque, speed, and low speed driveability. The closest brushless would be a novak goat system but they don't have the drag or torque. A fast outrunner would have the torque but not the low speed resolution.

Thanks guys! 29 left.

Are you serious, these have more torque than my goat systems, if so:shock::)"thumbsup"

JohnRobHolmes 04-07-2008 05:38 PM

Yes, the stator is much larger than the magnet on the Goat. It is also longer, and has more commutation cycles per revolution. All adds up to more torque.

dezrik 04-07-2008 08:43 PM

Would a 7T with 21T/87T still have enough torque for crawling?

Just Zach 04-07-2008 09:09 PM

Just picked up 2, thanks JRH"thumbsup"

JohnRobHolmes 04-07-2008 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezrik (Post 1131679)
Would a 7T with 21T/87T still have enough torque for crawling?

Yep. You could gear it to the moon and have enough torque if your batteries would deliver the amps.

Thorsteenster 04-07-2008 09:16 PM

Sorry to get off topic, but what are the rpm per volt for the 10t and max volts?

JohnRobHolmes 04-07-2008 09:17 PM

I measured the 10t at 1800, max voltage 4s lipo.

The 7t is listed at 1800 by the manufacturer, but I think that is loaded. It actually spins closer to 2300 by my last measurements.

dezrik 04-07-2008 09:22 PM

So what kind of battery do you recommend? 20C 11.1v LiPO?

JohnRobHolmes 04-07-2008 09:40 PM

A 15C 2100 seems to do the trick on the 7t. You could use a smaller battery with 20C discharge.

Mac10 04-07-2008 09:43 PM

paypal sent.

thanks JRH!

anychance I will get one of those bad a$$ HH stickers with it?

JohnRobHolmes 04-07-2008 09:50 PM

I need to get more stickers made. Already given out about 1000 of em, and I have run out.

rob_b 04-07-2008 11:48 PM

Just placed my order...

Thanks JRH

BigD74 04-08-2008 09:56 AM

I am trying to get shipping costs to Canada.
I sent an email but haven't heard back yet.
When I tried to order from your site it said to email you? Did you get my emails?

kwkride 04-08-2008 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 1131823)
A 15C 2100 seems to do the trick on the 7t. . .

What if we're still using 7.2v NiMH packs? Will they supply enough power to run one of these motors, or do we need to make the jump to LiPos first?

Thanks,

cartronicshn 04-08-2008 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 1131823)
A 15C 2100 seems to do the trick on the 7t. You could use a smaller battery with 20C discharge.

Hi JRH, on this note i have a sidewinder i am going to use with this motor, what battery that you have in stock would you recomend? also a balancer for my hyperion chargers? lmk so you can ship all at once.

Thorsteenster 04-08-2008 07:01 PM

How do the Cobalts play with The Sidewinder?
I'm thinking I might try something else in a comp rig I'm building rather than the Goat system I was going to use.
Have any kind of combo price?

Prophecy 04-08-2008 07:46 PM

So whats gonna be the specs difference between the Cobalt Puller 7T and your TorqueMaster M10? And when will we be expecting the TorqueMaster available for sale?

JohnRobHolmes 04-08-2008 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prophecy (Post 1133096)
So whats gonna be the specs difference between the Cobalt Puller 7T and your TorqueMaster M10? And when will we be expecting the TorqueMaster available for sale?

The m10 is still in proto phase, I have a few designs that are kicking around. It would be less power than the Cobalt Puller.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorsteenster (Post 1133029)
How do the Cobalts play with The Sidewinder?
I'm thinking I might try something else in a comp rig I'm building rather than the Goat system I was going to use.
Have any kind of combo price?

Cobalt and sidewinder are just fine together. No combos right now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartronicshn (Post 1132482)
Hi JRH, on this note i have a sidewinder i am going to use with this motor, what battery that you have in stock would you recomend? also a balancer for my hyperion chargers? lmk so you can ship all at once.

I have a shipment coming in of lipo, I will need to get some 7t testing. I don't remember if I had 1800's or 1650's sent in, and I haven't been able to test 3 cell 1650 15C packs with it yet. On a 2 cell a 1650 15C pack will cut it if the gearing is low (13/87 on an axial tranny).

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwkride (Post 1132420)
What if we're still using 7.2v NiMH packs? Will they supply enough power to run one of these motors, or do we need to make the jump to LiPos first?

Thanks,

What pack? What cells?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigD74 (Post 1132406)
I am trying to get shipping costs to Canada.
I sent an email but haven't heard back yet.
When I tried to order from your site it said to email you? Did you get my emails?

I have probably received it, but not replied yet. I will be able to respond to emails tomorrow after class, and before I ship.

ffactory666 04-09-2008 04:01 AM

Hi John.

I also just emailed you to get a price for postage to Australia , am ready to order asap.

Tim

Thorsteenster 04-09-2008 12:38 PM

How do you think the C7T w/ Sidewinder would be on a 2s A123 pack?

ffactory666 04-09-2008 02:57 PM

Could you also find out what pinion Badger was running in the vid with the R2 tranny and 3S lipo.
I'll be using this in a rock racer as well and his wheel speed looked spot on .

JohnRobHolmes 04-10-2008 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffactory666 (Post 1133735)
Hi John.

I also just emailed you to get a price for postage to Australia , am ready to order asap.

Tim

Shipping is $15 for non insured, and $25 for insured. If I haven't responded yet, don't worry as I have taken some motors out of inventory for international orders.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorsteenster (Post 1134162)
How do you think the C7T w/ Sidewinder would be on a 2s A123 pack?

It would work pretty dang well IMO.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ffactory666 (Post 1134378)
Could you also find out what pinion Badger was running in the vid with the R2 tranny and 3S lipo.
I'll be using this in a rock racer as well and his wheel speed looked spot on .


He probably uses a 13t, but that is a question for him. You could try asking him.

ffactory666 04-11-2008 03:49 AM

Thanks John , payment sent from your OZ customer.

Just was on our OZ crawling forum and saw that you post there as well , great stuff.

BigD74 04-11-2008 10:24 AM

Can't seem to send payment through your site says to do it by email could you send me an invoice for a 7T puller.

I have sent you email before.

cspyy 04-11-2008 09:29 PM

got a 10t in my comp rig and TWO more 7t's on order :twisted:

rdtshaw 04-11-2008 11:42 PM

Alrighty, I'm in. I 'm gonna move my 5T to my Rockracer and use the 7T in the slingshot...

Cheers,

Rob

ASSASSINO 04-16-2008 12:42 PM

Holmes: Need s/h fees to Canada. Please reply ASAP. Thanks.

cartronicshn 04-18-2008 08:03 AM

This come in yet? if so send me the invoice for the other stuff i asked please.
Thanks

cspyy 04-22-2008 05:21 PM

did the machinist get the job done?

JohnRobHolmes 04-22-2008 05:25 PM

Nothing today. Last Friday they said it would be Wednesday at the latest- hopefully they are right.

ASSASSINO 04-22-2008 05:38 PM

What does one have to do to get a shipping estimate over here??? Sheshhhh


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