(HH) Tech Questions and Customer support thread

[Dslzuk91]

No I've only drove it inside my house right now. Hasn't even been through 1 full battery pack. I just purchased your brxl and 27t rock racer motor a couple weeks ago and have been building it and trying to get it the way I want it.

[JohnRobHolmes]

Did you specify wraith timing or set the timing for clockwise direction? If it was not timed properly it will burn the comm. Otherwise there may be something in the motor causing the hangup.

[Dslzuk91]

I never timed anything. All I did was install the motor and esc and have been driving it around. It has 32p 56/12 gearing in it.

I was under the impression that it came set. I bought a castle link field card but I have not hooked it up to it yet

[JohnRobHolmes]

Motors come with zero timing if you purchase them from another vendor, or if you purchase from myself without specifying the timing or vehicle. Since many vehicles use different rotations for "forward" there isn't a standard we can lean on. Zero timing is safe, but not optimal. There is a tech tab at the top of my site with a writeup on timing brushed motors. You may just have a hung brush, hard to say without looking at it myself.

[Dslzuk91]

Hmm alright. What do you suggest I do with it? I just tried driving it around my basement and it won't even climb up the stairs now and before it did it easily. It seems to make some odd noises now. And it will periodically just stop going while driving it. It's in a wraith. Should I adjust the timing now with the field link card and see if that helps?

[Cheatin]

I also posted this in the BRXL thread...here too since the OG issue started in this one I think...

Ok, here's a weird one. This is the same BRXL I bought new not too long ago that always had some resistance when trying to spin the tires by hand with the battery disconnected, but would free up when a motor wire was disconnected. John thought maybe an FET or whatever might be going bad. I didn't sweat it since it worked fine otherwise.

Sunday it started acting weird as soon as I plugged in my battery, it took more than half throttle to get going, and didn't seem like it was getting full throttle. Then it started not moving at all until I gave it a push, so pulled the brushes and made sure they were clean and not hung up. Swapped batteries and it ran like it always does. Maybe half hour later same thing, so I thought my batteries dumped early.

Today I plugged it in and the steering turns left when powered on and flashes red and beeps continuously with no throttle or steering. I did a rebind on the tx ro rx and tries to recalibrate the ESC to the tx but it won't even do that, just flashes red and beeps continuously. Any ideas? I'll email John this post and see if it needs a trip back for a treatment with his big hammer.

[Dslzuk91]

Pulled the motor out and it has a lot of black dust on it. I'm gonna time it now. I also remembered when I installed it. I had to select reverse in my controller under throttle selection because it went forward in reverse and vice versa.

[Dslzuk91]

Pulled the motor apart. When u spin the pinion it seems to spin in notches. It doesn't spin freely and smooth. It seems to me like its rough.

[Cheatin]

Originally Posted by Cheatin

I also posted this in the BRXL thread...here too since the OG issue started in this one I think...

Ok, here's a weird one. This is the same BRXL I bought new not too long ago that always had some resistance when trying to spin the tires by hand with the battery disconnected, but would free up when a motor wire was disconnected. John thought maybe an FET or whatever might be going bad. I didn't sweat it since it worked fine otherwise.

Sunday it started acting weird as soon as I plugged in my battery, it took more than half throttle to get going, and didn't seem like it was getting full throttle. Then it started not moving at all until I gave it a push, so pulled the brushes and made sure they were clean and not hung up. Swapped batteries and it ran like it always does. Maybe half hour later same thing, so I thought my batteries dumped early.

Today I plugged it in and the steering turns left when powered on and flashes red and beeps continuously with no throttle or steering. I did a rebind on the tx ro rx and tries to recalibrate the ESC to the tx but it won't even do that, just flashes red and beeps continuously. Any ideas? I'll email John this post and see if it needs a trip back for a treatment with his big hammer.

Good thing I read a bit and for giggles uploaded the latest firmware version, changed a few settings I've been wanting to change like more drage brake, increase the arming time and pushed it to the ESC. Damn thing works just fine now, go figure...

[JohnRobHolmes]

Originally Posted by Dslzuk91

Hmm alright. What do you suggest I do with it? I just tried driving it around my basement and it won't even climb up the stairs now and before it did it easily. It seems to make some odd noises now. And it will periodically just stop going while driving it. It's in a wraith. Should I adjust the timing now with the field link card and see if that helps?

Originally Posted by Dslzuk91

Pulled the motor apart. When u spin the pinion it seems to spin in notches. It doesn't spin freely and smooth. It seems to me like its rough.

Timing is only adjusted on the motor for brushed setups. Notchy spinning is normal, the motor has strong magnets and no detent reducing parts.

Take some pics of it, refresh me on what is going on, and send an email to jrh at holmeshobbies.com. From there I can help out a bit better.

Originally Posted by Cheatin

Good thing I read a bit and for giggles uploaded the latest firmware version, changed a few settings I've been wanting to change like more drage brake, increase the arming time and pushed it to the ESC. Damn thing works just fine now, go figure...

Glad to hear that helped out. Sometimes things get a bit whacky and they just need a firmware refresh to get back to normal.

[Dslzuk91]

Well John as of right now it's running fine. I took it apart and timed it. Should be right about 6 degrees and made some adjustments via castle link and its running good. I turned Holmes hold on and it made the motor make some strange noises. So I turned it back off and it's been good for now. Thanks for the support!!

[spankbomb]

What is the correct polarity for plugging a BRXL into a receiver? Does brown equal black and orange equal yellow?

Thanks,
Jon D.

[DISTURBIN' tha PEACE]

The darkest color is the negative.

[Tzi]

Hi John, I sent you an email on the 14th and have seen no reply.
Just checking you got it??

[JohnRobHolmes]

Originally Posted by Dslzuk91

Well John as of right now it's running fine. I took it apart and timed it. Should be right about 6 degrees and made some adjustments via castle link and its running good. I turned Holmes hold on and it made the motor make some strange noises. So I turned it back off and it's been good for now. Thanks for the support!!

Glad that sorted it out!

Originally Posted by spankbomb

What is the correct polarity for plugging a BRXL into a receiver? Does brown equal black and orange equal yellow?

Thanks,
Jon D.

Originally Posted by DISTURBIN' tha PEACE

The darkest color is the negative.

Tis correct, brown is negative.

Originally Posted by Tzi

Hi John, I sent you an email on the 14th and have seen no reply.
Just checking you got it??

I'll look through when I get to the shop tomorrow, thanks for the heads up!

[meinthe73]

Hello John, I have a torquemaster expert 45t, I have had maybe 3 packs through at 1 hour and 1/2 each, on my forth pack it seems to have lost power and stalls out, it would get warm during crawling but not hot, now its get super hot pretty much untouchable. I have cleaned it and cut the comm and the brushes but didn't seem to help.. my specs are ae-2 and castle bec, 15t pinion 87 spur, 2.2 tsl in a 8lb Wraith. 5000 nimh venom 7.2v.. Thanks

[JohnRobHolmes]

Could be a damaged coil, or the magnets got overheated and now they need zapping. If you want to send it in we can certainly take a look!

[slimfire]

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

Your gearing sounds great. I would suggest a 13t Crawlmaster or 27t TorqueMaster. The big difference is right in the name. The Crawlmaster crawls with better low end control, it is really sensitive on the low end and startup. The TorqueMaster has more torque, and also drag brake. It still crawls well enough for world class competitors, but is more of a brute force build.

I finally made up my mind and ordered a 13t CrawlMaster Pro 540 and can't wait for trying it on my Wraith!

[5VoltDetonator]

ok I just got a HH Expert 35T. Now I see I have to break it in 2-3 volt run 2-3 minutes at 6 deg advanced timing. I see the timing marks now how do I move it? Just loosen up the two screws on top and rotate it?. I did read the 540 Brushed Motor Care, Installation, and Troubleshoot guide but I just want to make sure I'm doing it correct. I rotate the timing 6 deg in the opposite dirrect of forward correct?

I'm putting it in my SCX10 with Stock Axial ESC w/ CC BEC

[JohnRobHolmes]

Originally Posted by 5VoltDetonator

ok I just got a HH Expert 35T. ..
I'm putting it in my SCX10 with Stock Axial ESC w/ CC BEC

The expert is broken in and ready to go

Originally Posted by slimfire

I finally made up my mind and ordered a 13t CrawlMaster Pro 540 and can't wait for trying it on my Wraith!

Thanks for the order!