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tony1 · 01-23-2009, 06:31 AM

hi all, with my wheely king i fliped the chassis like 99.9% of people here. with doing that i had to reverse the motor wires so the truck went forward.

now what i'm getting at is i didn't like reversing the wires everytime i put a different motor in my truck( i know i'm weird), so what i did is flip my front and rear axle's so when i put a new motor in i just wired it up like normal.

now why i'm asking this question is i was looking at the pic thread looking at idea's for steering and nearly everyone has there axles none fliped.

can i please ask why is that.

thanks in advance tony...

Pete720 · 01-23-2009, 07:44 AM

Good question. When I got my Wheelie King I also purchased the HPI crawler conversion for it. When I was assembling the conversion onto my WK I wondered why it made you go through all the work of swapping the axles around when it looked like you could just swap the steering components around and reverse the motor so I would be curious to know the logic is also? As far as the motor reversing goes my understanding is the WK in stock form has the battery in the rear so as to make it easy for the Wheelie King to "wheelie" which is does very well but when you try and crawl with the stock setup the truck tends to want to flip backwards easier on climbs (at least for me anyway) so reversing the motor now shifts the battery weight to the front or middle front more for better balance. You may know this already but the other thing you can do (if you have a radio that permits it) if you do not like swapping the wires on your motors, just reverse the throttle servo setting on your radio.

frsttimer · 01-23-2009, 01:37 PM

some motors will not run as well reversed as they will when wired the right way because of timing usssues i think most are not flipped is because the may have also turned the trans around so it is facing the normal direction when they fliped the chassies just my thought

Pete720 · 01-23-2009, 04:52 PM

Hmm never thought of the timing issue. I am using a 55T Integy Lathe motor, does it matter with this motor which way it is rotating?

Lonewolf · 01-23-2009, 05:05 PM

If I am correct the 55t int. has zero timing meaning it can run in either direction...

Pete720 · 01-23-2009, 05:32 PM

Ahh ok, thank you

I was pretty sure I could not tell the difference in it's performance wired in either direction.

SnoopMaxx · 01-24-2009, 06:49 AM

The reason for the swab compared to a flip
Is that the top link mount wont fit with out a little modding
I fabricated a 4 link mount and just flipped the axles

01-23-2009, 06:31 AM	#1
tony1 Rock Stacker Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney australia Posts: 74	axle question hi all, with my wheely king i fliped the chassis like 99.9% of people here. with doing that i had to reverse the motor wires so the truck went forward. now what i'm getting at is i didn't like reversing the wires everytime i put a different motor in my truck( i know i'm weird), so what i did is flip my front and rear axle's so when i put a new motor in i just wired it up like normal. now why i'm asking this question is i was looking at the pic thread looking at idea's for steering and nearly everyone has there axles none fliped. can i please ask why is that. thanks in advance tony...

01-23-2009, 01:37 PM	#3
frsttimer Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: barre Posts: 238	some motors will not run as well reversed as they will when wired the right way because of timing usssues i think most are not flipped is because the may have also turned the trans around so it is facing the normal direction when they fliped the chassies just my thought Last edited by frsttimer; 01-23-2009 at 01:41 PM. Reason: adding

01-23-2009, 07:44 AM	#2
Pete720 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wilmington Posts: 38	Good question. When I got my Wheelie King I also purchased the HPI crawler conversion for it. When I was assembling the conversion onto my WK I wondered why it made you go through all the work of swapping the axles around when it looked like you could just swap the steering components around and reverse the motor so I would be curious to know the logic is also? As far as the motor reversing goes my understanding is the WK in stock form has the battery in the rear so as to make it easy for the Wheelie King to "wheelie" which is does very well but when you try and crawl with the stock setup the truck tends to want to flip backwards easier on climbs (at least for me anyway) so reversing the motor now shifts the battery weight to the front or middle front more for better balance. You may know this already but the other thing you can do (if you have a radio that permits it) if you do not like swapping the wires on your motors, just reverse the throttle servo setting on your radio.

01-23-2009, 04:52 PM	#4
Pete720 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wilmington Posts: 38	Hmm never thought of the timing issue. I am using a 55T Integy Lathe motor, does it matter with this motor which way it is rotating?

01-23-2009, 05:05 PM	#5
Lonewolf Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: N.E. Mpls Posts: 854	If I am correct the 55t int. has zero timing meaning it can run in either direction...

01-23-2009, 05:32 PM	#6
Pete720 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wilmington Posts: 38	Ahh ok, thank you I was pretty sure I could not tell the difference in it's performance wired in either direction.

01-24-2009, 06:49 AM	#7
SnoopMaxx Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Denmark Posts: 904	The reason for the swab compared to a flip Is that the top link mount wont fit with out a little modding I fabricated a 4 link mount and just flipped the axles

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