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Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Raleigh
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Finalizing my grocery list for my crawler king. All I have to do is pick a battery and order. Putting a sidewinder speed control and running the stock crawler king motor to start. I am going lipo 2c to start out. 3c looks good too but it is more expensive and I am afraid I will tear crap up really fast with a 3c which I don't want to do right away since this is my first venture back into RC in 20 years. What do you all run for batteries? I heard Zippy is a great battery for the money as they are cheap. Any opinions? Please give specific size you run and not just the brand. How about this one? http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s..._25C_Lipo_Pack Going to run a stock motor 55t 540, sidewinder esc, and most likely a hitech high torque servo (have not picked the server yet). Last edited by phunkodelic; 06-20-2009 at 12:58 PM. |
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Just jump it! ![]() Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cedar City, Utah
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If you get a high torque servo with that sidewinder you are going to want to add a castle bec to the list!!!!!! | |
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>>If you get a high torque servo with that sidewinder you are going to want to add a castle bec to the list!!!!!! << Why? Does the servo and speed controler drain the reciver batteries a whole bunch? Is there a good servo to use that is not high torque that is easier on batteries but will still do the trick? I know what a BEC is but what are the advantages of running one? Last edited by phunkodelic; 06-21-2009 at 11:45 AM. |
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With a bec you can wire your servo directly to the battery. (castle bec come preset at 5.3 volts I believe) That way it doesnt draw power off the built in bec in the esc. Most built in becs on esc's are only 1.5 to 3 amps, which just isnt enough for a high torque servo. A rooster esc has a 5 amp bec and would power a Jr 8711 with 400+ oz of torque, but as soon as i added a dig servo it would freeze up. A servo like the Jr 8711 has 350 is oz of torque at 4.8 volts and 400 + at 6 volts. That is were the bec is nice because you can feed it 6 volts from the battery With all the amp draw it needs, not the 1.5 amps at 5 volts off the esc. Hope that helps some. There are alot of threads on this in the electronics section if you want to research more on this. I use the hitec 645 and the tower pro 995 servos on my sons rig and they do ok without a bec. They have around 150 to 200 oz of torque. | |
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Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Raleigh
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Thanks man! Great info.
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Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada
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I'm running Nicd's right now but I'll probably run a Turnigy 5000 mah 2s 20C...heard some great reviews about them about them...and this pack is apparantly the same size as a std 7.2V pack. http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s..._20C_Lipo_Pack I too am running a Sidewinder with a Hitec 645MG but find that it glitches once in awhile. Gonna try a castle BEC and hopefully helps. Just gotta say...I love my Sidewinder and servo. A huge improvement over the stock parts. ![]() |
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Rock Stacker Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Orlando
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Here is what I am running and it works great and fits perfectly. http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idproduct=8357 BTW evandiego the servo will twitch anyways if its an analog servo try a digital servo instead. Last edited by illz302; 07-21-2009 at 11:24 AM. |
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Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada
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Ohhh...the servo actually works great but its my Sidewinder esc glitching. I've heard on here that using the internal BEC will cause the Sidewinder to operate erratically. In my case it glitches when 15 to 20 feet away from me. I'll install an external Castle BEC and if that doesn't solve the problem then a new radio it is! Last edited by Evandiego; 07-21-2009 at 12:36 PM. Reason: clarification | |
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Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada
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Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada
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The size of a standard 6 cell NiMH pack is about 137 mm long x 48 mm wide x 24 mm high (5.4" W x 1.85" W x 0.94" H). Give or take couple mm depending on who makes it. I think the stock battery box on the WK/CK can accomodate a slightly longer pack but width wise its pretty tight. Toight like a toiger. ![]() I'm using this to determine what size Lipo fits in mine too. I found these: http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idproduct=9465 http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idproduct=9435 http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idproduct=8933 |
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Rock Stacker Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Orlando
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Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Long Island
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This hard case one is nice! http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=9437 This might be nice also cause the wires i believe plug into the top http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=8357 I have this for my slash and it fits the WK box but i just need to cut alittle where the wires come up and then it fits with room to spare! http://www.promatchracing.com/products.php?cat=21 |
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Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada
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I just got my Turnigy 3S 3000 mah Lipo yesterday and it's awesome! http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=9265 This pack on its first balance charge was within +/- 0.01 volts between the three cells. From what I can see and feel it's built quite nicely and comes with heavy duty 10 awg wires and std balancer plugs. It comes with 4 mm gold bullet connecters. I didn't want to solder 10 awg wires on to Deans plugs as that would probably prove a bit difficult so I made my own adapter with female deans on 1 end to hook up with esc and 4 mm bullets on the other for battery. Size is same as a standard 6 cell pack and fits perfectly in the stock Wheely/Crawler King batt box. Can't really say how long run times are but I can comment on the punch. I'm glad I went with 3S. Still have perfect slow control but now I have the wheel speed! I just had to configure punch control on my esc...less chance of breaking stuff. You can't beat the price...so I'm gonna buy more! |
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Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Greensburg PA
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I run an Integy 2s 7.4v 5000mah lipo with a sidewinder 5700kv motor & ESC with a high torque servo and it works great no glitches at all and i get about 25 min runs. ![]() |
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RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wetlands
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Be ready for th 3s li-po power. You will never go lesser cel's after you have gon atleast three cells. ![]() |
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Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada
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Newbie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Waynesville,Ohio
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Hey you must get the gear reduction for this if you plan to craw imo ![]() | |
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Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada
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![]() Just a note on the Turnigy 3s 3000 mah I'm running...balanced it and ran my rig for over an hour and a half and still has juice in it! ![]() | |
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Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada
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Because I get insane run times on my 3s 3000 mah Turnigy lipos, I would suggest going down to a 3s 1300 mah or a 3s 1500 mah Turnigy lipo. It's light and (100 to 130 grams vs. 270 grams for 3000 mah Turnigy) you would still get decent 30 min to 40 min run times. You could go with these for nice wheel speed which are about 116g http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=8936 If you still want to go the 2s route they are even lighter...this one is 97g http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=9166 Having the lighter packs is a huge advantage if you're using the stock battery box like me cuz the CG is pretty high. Yeah I could mount it on the links or axle but I'd like to keep a somewhat stock/scale look. Just my two cents for today. ![]() |
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