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Akura2 · 12-01-2006, 11:37 PM

video

http://www.hpiracing.com/movies/10820_001.mov

TLTCrawlin · 12-01-2006, 11:38 PM

I see a crawler for my friend!

william g · 12-02-2006, 02:53 PM

very interesting indeed

Jason thanks for the details.

Rat1 · 12-02-2006, 08:45 PM

http://www.hpiracing.com/options/en/10820.html
#85250 AXLE/DIFFERENTIAL CASE SET (Front/Rear)

Then click on parts list for the stock parts.

I am assuming this would be an easy conversion to 4wd. Both the front and rear axles are the same part number so all that should be needed are the internals to put in the front axle. It is said that the rear is steerable which means the axle shafts in the rear have some type of joint on them for use in the frotn axle.

There was mention the transmission output went straight through but was plugged on the front side so a drive shaft should plug right into it. the question is, is the distance between the trans to the front the same as it is to the rear? I am seriously lookign into this truck btu not unless it can be converted to 4wd without dropping a bunch of greenbacks on it.

I am thnking that dropping 200.00 on this would be better for me then going the TLT route since I can use it as is right now and with very little modification it can start going to work crawling around the living room for less money and less work.

Jamus · 12-02-2006, 08:53 PM

Have you read this whole thread? JIA posted a diagram of how everything goes together. A guy on the last page even went through and listed part numbers. Check the diagram and all will be clear. Very easy to turn 4wd.

nd4spdbh · 12-02-2006, 08:58 PM

WOWOWO them axles are beefe.... i mean to take a 10ft drop off a ledge and land for a straight axle to not break... VERY GOOD... the tlt axle would have a very hard time of standing up to that... pluss it looks like these axles will fit pede sliders no prob! man i smell a replacement for tlt! mabey...

swhenrik · 12-02-2006, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DISTURBIN' tha PEACE

Maybe it might have something to do with his job.

I know, just giving him some crap LOL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonInAugusta

You won't get rear steer with the stock setup.

Due to the width of the chassis, there is room for only one steering servo.

Expect to make some parts if you want 4WS.

I noticed that also. Looks like the steering servo is mounted in the center and no room like you said... modding required? Cool!

I also wondered about running 4ws with a single servo. Lame? Maybe. But might be simpler to install.

I just got an official HPI parts list spreadsheet for the truck, so I'll go through it and verify the part numbers I posted.

ned · 12-02-2006, 11:39 PM

what diameter and length are the shocks?

run2jeepn · 12-03-2006, 01:44 AM

Looks funner then the Stampede I had....

Jamus · 12-03-2006, 11:56 PM

Just out of curiosity I went through the numbers of what it would take to convert it to 4wd. All prices except bearings are off of HPIs site. Added up to around $80. I'm hoping the parts will be cheaper once it comes out.

Rat1 · 12-04-2006, 06:30 AM

That does sound a little high. At one time HPI had the wheelie king at a suggested retail of over 300 dollars but they are listed for under 200 dollars from tower etc. Possibly the same deal with the parts????

Jamus · 12-04-2006, 09:18 AM

Not sure but i hope so. The HPI bearings are pricey but can be had other places. A few items that I could find on tower were usueally a few cents difference than HPI. $5.79 VS $6. It would be great if they sold all the parts to convert it in a single item, and for less, like around $50. It's not that bad but when you consider a whole TLT kit is $70 shipped, but the TLT kits are rediculously cheap these days.

Plays_with_Toys · 12-04-2006, 09:21 AM

I imagine they'll release a 4wd kit, like traxxas did with their tmaxx sport. HPI has even done it with their savage and the reverse modules and stuff. I just don't see why HPI didn't go 4WD from the get go, would've been cheaper in the long run, but maybe less money for them? Or maybe it got too much forward traction and didn't wheely?

Jamus · 12-04-2006, 04:34 PM

The wheely aspect would be my guess. Added weight and traction, still would probably pop wheelies though.

william g · 12-04-2006, 04:38 PM

wheelie aspect and cheap enough to compete w/ the stampedes

mikesativa · 12-06-2006, 05:53 AM

I'm building a TLT, now I want those axles instead. Man ,JIA sure did point out all the goodies to make me drool over the specs.. Nice job

BTW, are you the one who built the New Bright Computer RC? I think it was an Avalache 1/6 scale.

Jamus · 12-06-2006, 08:17 AM

Yeah I think JIA must have stock in HPI.

Naw, but I think most people saw some potential in this rig but after this thread it's opening eyes. What I'm wondering about is what tires will be able to be run. TLTs come with what, a 3.75" tire? And we normally run 5"+ on them. This thing comes with a 5.3" tire, so could we go upwards of 6" tires? The axle shaft bearings are 5mm which is the same as the TLT I think. Everything else about the WK axle is stronger though. I'm willing to bet the WK axles will handle the ALL-Ts and larger tires like that, maybe even get into maxx sizes, I hope anyway.

JasonInAugusta · 12-11-2006, 06:24 PM

Yup, I think All-T's would be great on these axles. ;)

Drove it a bit today.

Removed the wheelie bar and went bombing around with it.

Fun truck.

andres-tavares · 12-11-2006, 06:53 PM

looks like fun

a question how many miles this truck goes??..a mean how fast??

thanks

Rat1 · 12-11-2006, 07:01 PM

Give me more info if you have it. Do you know if they are offering a 4x4 conversion kit yet????

I have been waiting on this and if they do have an inespensive conversion kit then I might hold off on the TLT and get this one instead.

12-02-2006, 08:45 PM	#64
Rat1 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rats nest Grafton ND Posts: 381	http://www.hpiracing.com/options/en/10820.html #85250 AXLE/DIFFERENTIAL CASE SET (Front/Rear) Then click on parts list for the stock parts. I am assuming this would be an easy conversion to 4wd. Both the front and rear axles are the same part number so all that should be needed are the internals to put in the front axle. It is said that the rear is steerable which means the axle shafts in the rear have some type of joint on them for use in the frotn axle. There was mention the transmission output went straight through but was plugged on the front side so a drive shaft should plug right into it. the question is, is the distance between the trans to the front the same as it is to the rear? I am seriously lookign into this truck btu not unless it can be converted to 4wd without dropping a bunch of greenbacks on it. I am thnking that dropping 200.00 on this would be better for me then going the TLT route since I can use it as is right now and with very little modification it can start going to work crawling around the living room for less money and less work. Last edited by Rat1; 12-02-2006 at 08:54 PM.

12-06-2006, 05:53 AM	#76
mikesativa Pebble Pounder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Anchorage Posts: 114	Awesome find. I'm building a TLT, now I want those axles instead. Man ,JIA sure did point out all the goodies to make me drool over the specs.. Nice job BTW, are you the one who built the New Bright Computer RC? I think it was an Avalache 1/6 scale.

12-11-2006, 06:24 PM	#78
JasonInAugusta 06 Super National Champ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stark Industries Bar and Grill Posts: 11,361	Yup, I think All-T's would be great on these axles. ;) Drove it a bit today. Removed the wheelie bar and went bombing around with it. Fun truck. Attached Images

12-01-2006, 11:37 PM	#61
Akura2 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 135	video http://www.hpiracing.com/movies/10820_001.mov

12-01-2006, 11:38 PM	#62
TLTCrawlin I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Eastern WA Posts: 2,489	I see a crawler for my friend!

12-02-2006, 02:53 PM	#63
william g Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: newport Posts: 408	very interesting indeed Jason thanks for the details.

12-02-2006, 08:53 PM	#65
Jamus RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Naoma, WV Posts: 1,479	Have you read this whole thread? JIA posted a diagram of how everything goes together. A guy on the last page even went through and listed part numbers. Check the diagram and all will be clear. Very easy to turn 4wd.

12-02-2006, 08:58 PM	#66
nd4spdbh Rock Crawler Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dude on my dirt bike in SoCal!!! Posts: 949	WOWOWO them axles are beefe.... i mean to take a 10ft drop off a ledge and land for a straight axle to not break... VERY GOOD... the tlt axle would have a very hard time of standing up to that... pluss it looks like these axles will fit pede sliders no prob! man i smell a replacement for tlt! mabey...

12-02-2006, 11:39 PM	#68
ned Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: geraldton, western australia Posts: 18	what diameter and length are the shocks?

12-03-2006, 01:44 AM	#69
run2jeepn I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 11,196	Looks funner then the Stampede I had....

12-03-2006, 11:56 PM	#70
Jamus RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Naoma, WV Posts: 1,479	Just out of curiosity I went through the numbers of what it would take to convert it to 4wd. All prices except bearings are off of HPIs site. Added up to around $80. I'm hoping the parts will be cheaper once it comes out.

12-04-2006, 06:30 AM	#71
Rat1 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rats nest Grafton ND Posts: 381	That does sound a little high. At one time HPI had the wheelie king at a suggested retail of over 300 dollars but they are listed for under 200 dollars from tower etc. Possibly the same deal with the parts????

12-04-2006, 09:18 AM	#72
Jamus RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Naoma, WV Posts: 1,479	Not sure but i hope so. The HPI bearings are pricey but can be had other places. A few items that I could find on tower were usueally a few cents difference than HPI. $5.79 VS $6. It would be great if they sold all the parts to convert it in a single item, and for less, like around $50. It's not that bad but when you consider a whole TLT kit is $70 shipped, but the TLT kits are rediculously cheap these days.

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12-04-2006, 09:21 AM	#73
Plays_with_Toys I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Centennial, CO Posts: 2,129	I imagine they'll release a 4wd kit, like traxxas did with their tmaxx sport. HPI has even done it with their savage and the reverse modules and stuff. I just don't see why HPI didn't go 4WD from the get go, would've been cheaper in the long run, but maybe less money for them? Or maybe it got too much forward traction and didn't wheely?

12-04-2006, 04:34 PM	#74
Jamus RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Naoma, WV Posts: 1,479	The wheely aspect would be my guess. Added weight and traction, still would probably pop wheelies though.

12-04-2006, 04:38 PM	#75
william g Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: newport Posts: 408	wheelie aspect and cheap enough to compete w/ the stampedes

12-06-2006, 08:17 AM	#77
Jamus RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Naoma, WV Posts: 1,479	Yeah I think JIA must have stock in HPI. Naw, but I think most people saw some potential in this rig but after this thread it's opening eyes. What I'm wondering about is what tires will be able to be run. TLTs come with what, a 3.75" tire? And we normally run 5"+ on them. This thing comes with a 5.3" tire, so could we go upwards of 6" tires? The axle shaft bearings are 5mm which is the same as the TLT I think. Everything else about the WK axle is stronger though. I'm willing to bet the WK axles will handle the ALL-Ts and larger tires like that, maybe even get into maxx sizes, I hope anyway.

12-11-2006, 06:53 PM	#79
andres-tavares Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On the trail Posts: 668	looks like fun a question how many miles this truck goes??..a mean how fast?? thanks

12-11-2006, 07:01 PM	#80
Rat1 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rats nest Grafton ND Posts: 381	Give me more info if you have it. Do you know if they are offering a 4x4 conversion kit yet???? I have been waiting on this and if they do have an inespensive conversion kit then I might hold off on the TLT and get this one instead.

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