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Gula 02-23-2007 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by clarkrw3
Is this the same thing combined?? http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...0&I=LXJYM2&P=K
It is less expensive to buy together than each by itself if it's the same thing.

No those are just the heavy duty Hop-up instead of the the pot metal gears. And I did the math and it doesnt cost that much if you play it smart and get your parts from different places like Ebay, walawala, etc. For $100 you can include the hardened gears for front and back

NickRummy 02-23-2007 09:20 AM

That is the hardened steel kit for the MT2. See how the pinion shaft and the pinion are one piece? I THINK this will still work but haven't checked. You won't need a seperate pinion shaft if you buy that setup.

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Originally Posted by clarkrw3
Is this the same thing combined?? http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...0&I=LXJYM2&P=K
It is less expensive to buy together than each by itself if it's the same thing.

If you want to go even cheaper. There is the whole Diff assembly which hasn't been released yet. I can't find the part number (it's in my manual at home) but it's around $16.00 for the ring and pinion, diff housing, spider gears and pinion shaft. All you need are bearings and axles.

Unless you are putting some SERIOUS power into these axles the stock pot metal gears are going to last. I ran the stock pot metal gears in my nitro MT with an OS .18 CV-R motor and as long as I had them shimmed right they held up.

Gula 02-23-2007 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by NickRummy
Unless you are putting some SERIOUS power into these axles the stock pot metal gears are going to last. I ran the stock pot metal gears in my nitro MT with an OS .18 CV-R motor and as long as I had them shimmed right they held up.

Funny, I must have gotten a few bad batches then. My original MT the rear shattered, the second one i got wore out, I later sold it. My MT2 which i converted to SS the rear also wore out. My drift RS4 and Super nitro Rally both also wore out the rear ones. I have sofar upgraded all but the drifter to THe hardened gears and those have held up a lot better than the pot metal. Granted the hardened ones cost 4 times as much they'll last 100 times longer. I say 4 times as much since some guy on ebay used to sell them for $21 off of a MT2SS per set and included the hardened spider gears. Now he raised the price a bit. I know in a NItro that most parts spin a lot faster than a Crawler, but in both my TLT rigs the rear diffs are showing signs of wear even though i have shimmed them and use white lithium grease unsparingly.

Thorsteenster 02-23-2007 10:32 AM

82.66 will build a whole WK axle, housing and all. screw buying the truck, i'd rather just buy 2 axles worth of parts. 170 for 2 axles vs 176.99 for the truck + 57.68 to 4wd it

K_Willis 02-23-2007 10:45 AM

Hmmmm $170 for Wheely King axles...

or $150 for indestructible Twin Force Axles from RCP...

Preach on brother Raptorman

Thorsteenster 02-23-2007 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by K_Willis
Hmmmm $170 for Wheely King axles...

or $150 for indestructible Twin Force Axles from RCP...

Preach on brother Raptorman

good point, really the force axles from rcp coming with extra short axles is a better option, although the WK axles to look more scale.

NickRummy 02-23-2007 11:31 AM

Here are a few vids of punishment on the pot metal gears. My truck is the yellow/blue MT. I agree the hardened gears are better, I've just had no reason to upgrade. I have a new extra set in my box that cost me $10 for the ring and pinion and diff case.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v4...nt=MTVideo.flv

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v4...edinaTrack.flv

Got Rocks? 02-23-2007 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thorsteenster
82.66 will build a whole WK axle, housing and all. screw buying the truck, i'd rather just buy 2 axles worth of parts. 170 for 2 axles vs 176.99 for the truck + 57.68 to 4wd it

what about the fact that its rtr with esc and all and a super small tranny? tires wheels shocks chassis links steering? makes it seem worth it now doesnt it? comes with a battery radio and charger...now how do you feel about it?

rbgerrish 02-23-2007 01:30 PM

Tammies has rubber and metal shielded BOCA bearings for .99 cents each!

:D

themerc64 02-23-2007 01:48 PM

I bought 2 WK's at the same time for $350 out the door. Converted one to 4WD to bash with and saved the rest for other projects. I now have a set of axles to build a crawler with after getting the needed parts from Tower and they are not so much. Think of all the uses for the extra parts, battery, radio gear, servo, speedo, shocks, etc. Good luck even getting the 4WD conversion set from HPI Europe... Part #87602:?:

Bearings can be found cheaper anywhere...
http://www.teamfasteddy.com/ $0.99 each
http://www.avidrc.com/ $1.00 each

Kingofthehill 02-23-2007 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Rocks?
what about the fact that its rtr with esc and all and a super small tranny? tires wheels shocks chassis links steering? makes it seem worth it now doesnt it? comes with a battery radio and charger...now how do you feel about it?

exactly...

Thorsteenster 02-23-2007 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Rocks?
what about the fact that its rtr with esc and all and a super small tranny? tires wheels shocks chassis links steering? makes it seem worth it now doesnt it? comes with a battery radio and charger...now how do you feel about it?

lol.....im not disagreeing, that is a pretty good deal for some, for me, just more junk i dont have room for so i'd rather just build the axles and use equipment i allready have. would be nice to see the cost to 4wd it down around 25 though.

nitromtcrawler 02-23-2007 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GulaVW69
Funny, I must have gotten a few bad batches then. My original MT the rear shattered, the second one i got wore out, I later sold it. My MT2 which i converted to SS the rear also wore out. My drift RS4 and Super nitro Rally both also wore out the rear ones. I have sofar upgraded all but the drifter to THe hardened gears and those have held up a lot better than the pot metal. Granted the hardened ones cost 4 times as much they'll last 100 times longer. I say 4 times as much since some guy on ebay used to sell them for $21 off of a MT2SS per set and included the hardened spider gears. Now he raised the price a bit. I know in a NItro that most parts spin a lot faster than a Crawler, but in both my TLT rigs the rear diffs are showing signs of wear even though i have shimmed them and use white lithium grease unsparingly.

thats funny i have a 18 in mine as well and had no truble.


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