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JIA's Dad · 03-25-2007, 09:49 AM

Harley, I don't understand why the steering was moved behind the axle. Unless some one thought it would give more clearance than in the front. In a frontal view of the axle the flat portion of the pumpkin is on the left side. The drive shaft is on the back side of the axle.

Harley · 03-25-2007, 10:05 AM

Yes, it was moved behing the axle for more approach clearance and less hang up opportunities. I am obviously going to keep both versions, standard and behind the axle.

The BTA setup takes more work but it could be a substantial improvement.

I mostly did it though just for fun

Josh Thiede

JIA's Dad · 03-25-2007, 10:09 AM

Thanks clears it up for me. Has it been tried, the clearance between links and steering looks to conflict.

Harley · 03-25-2007, 10:39 AM

yep heres a pic.

I just used a k2-3l Chassis because it is my prefered chassis. I am sure it would work with alot of different chassis'. I cycled the suspension and there were no conflicts.

JIA's Dad · 03-25-2007, 12:31 PM

Yes, I see that could work fine. You are very good with that program. Thanks for what you are doing and have done in giving options on setup to all. The only possible problem I see with this setup is, that spacer on the steering connection acting as a lever putting extra torque on the steering arm (twist/slack). Unless the C/steering arm is made of aluminum like on other (already sold parts like on TLT/Clods) add on parts.
I think there are enough ideas posted for the average person (he/she) to have options on how they would do their setups. Thanks again for all you have done.

Harley · 03-25-2007, 01:03 PM

I agree 100% about the torque on the knuckle. Seems like aluminim knuckles are one of the first aftermarket parts to come out for new vehicles though.

Anybody know of a better site to upload the templates on that doesn't have a limit to the number of downloads per day. Or since I bought my star can I upload them on here?

Josh Thiede

dezfan · 03-25-2007, 02:13 PM

May have to limit the size if you load them directly to RCC.

Are you using Photobucket?

I haven't noticed a limit there.

Harley · 03-25-2007, 02:42 PM

I still load my pictures to photobucket, but I want to upload the PDF files. I could probably convert them to a JPEG but I wouldn't want the scale to get messed up. Maybe someone that has a website on here would host them for us.

Harley · 03-28-2007, 09:20 PM

Looks like it worked!!!!

Here is Gula's...................HIS IS TITANIUM!!!

My K2-3L Rubi With WK axles "In progress"

NickRummy · 03-29-2007, 01:28 PM

Saweeet!

Project Dad · 04-04-2007, 11:25 PM

If some one can make this or will make it. i would buy a version for the front and the rear. I don't have the tools or the room to make these.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley0706

yep heres a pic.

I just used a k2-3l Chassis because it is my prefered chassis. I am sure it would work with alot of different chassis'. I cycled the suspension and there were no conflicts.

neverupright · 04-05-2007, 12:09 AM

I second that

Harley · 04-05-2007, 06:57 AM

I am up for having a vendor make and sell them, I would not be holding them back. I am willing to give them my template to make it easier.

Bug your vendors guys.

Josh

Harley · 04-05-2007, 03:06 PM

Today when I was cuting out the template for the new clocked motor plate I noticed that it printed smaller then 1:1. I checked the paper template against the design and concluded that Adobe PDF Maker actually shinks the print by almost 5%. So I corrected the output size and everything should be good now. This is the reason why the servo mounts were not lining up 100% correctly (more like 96% correctly). With things this small it can really cause a problem. If I would have had an axle here to check it against I could have caught this alot sooner. Anyways, a new template is available for anyone who wants it.

JIA's Dad · 04-06-2007, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley0706

I am up for having a vendor make and sell them, I would not be holding them back. I am willing to give them my template to make it easier.

Bug your vendors guys.

Josh

(This is not to be used for anyone to profit from!!!! Think of it as shareware not freeware (I think that is the right analogy).)QUOTE

Josh Thiede

That's really smooth Josh pick our brains to get all the info for the designs, which originally were not to be used by vendors. And now you say Your not going to hold them back, they can sell us a product that we helped design. Do we get to share in the profits?

Harley · 04-06-2007, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley0706

....I am willing to give them my template to make it easier.

I don't want to sell it. I am never going to make this thing. I just wish I had time for my own stuff.

I will always give this template to people, I just think it would be nice for people to be able to buy it. My template will always be shareware though.

Josh

Mriccucci · 04-11-2007, 12:35 PM

Finished the Servo Mount today, no linkage yet hopefully i can do that tonight.

Harley · 04-11-2007, 09:48 PM

Looks good!

Can you get a shot from directly behind the axle if you get a chance?

Josh

joemomma95 · 04-11-2007, 10:07 PM

I have a question(probably a simple answer for it, I feel dumb asking)...why is the servo off to the side on all the mounts I've ever seen? Does it have to do with the clearances on the pumpkin?

BTW, nice idea, I'm sure my WK will get this eventually, I was wondering something else also...wouldn't it be beneficial to have the BTA setup? I look at the front setup and it just looks like it's begging to be smashed in a front end collision. I know crawlers aren't that fast but what happens if you land on the front of the truck coming off a rock face or something? Just trying to think ahead..

Harley · 04-11-2007, 10:24 PM

The servo is off to the side for two reasons:

1: To keep the height down. With how low we like to run our rigs it is nice to not have an axle setup that isn't 4 inchs tall.

2: Keep the Center or Gravity as low as possible.

and on the TBA setup:

03-25-2007, 09:49 AM	#41
JIA's Dad Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Midway Posts: 836	Harley, I don't understand why the steering was moved behind the axle. Unless some one thought it would give more clearance than in the front. In a frontal view of the axle the flat portion of the pumpkin is on the left side. The drive shaft is on the back side of the axle.

03-25-2007, 10:05 AM	#42
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	Yes, it was moved behing the axle for more approach clearance and less hang up opportunities. I am obviously going to keep both versions, standard and behind the axle. The BTA setup takes more work but it could be a substantial improvement. I mostly did it though just for fun Josh Thiede

03-25-2007, 10:09 AM	#43
JIA's Dad Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Midway Posts: 836	Thanks clears it up for me. Has it been tried, the clearance between links and steering looks to conflict.

03-25-2007, 10:39 AM	#44
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	yep heres a pic. I just used a k2-3l Chassis because it is my prefered chassis. I am sure it would work with alot of different chassis'. I cycled the suspension and there were no conflicts.

03-25-2007, 12:31 PM	#45
JIA's Dad Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Midway Posts: 836	Yes, I see that could work fine. You are very good with that program. Thanks for what you are doing and have done in giving options on setup to all. The only possible problem I see with this setup is, that spacer on the steering connection acting as a lever putting extra torque on the steering arm (twist/slack). Unless the C/steering arm is made of aluminum like on other (already sold parts like on TLT/Clods) add on parts. I think there are enough ideas posted for the average person (he/she) to have options on how they would do their setups. Thanks again for all you have done.

03-25-2007, 01:03 PM	#46
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	I agree 100% about the torque on the knuckle. Seems like aluminim knuckles are one of the first aftermarket parts to come out for new vehicles though. Anybody know of a better site to upload the templates on that doesn't have a limit to the number of downloads per day. Or since I bought my star can I upload them on here? Josh Thiede

03-25-2007, 02:13 PM	#47
dezfan I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK. Posts: 12,563	May have to limit the size if you load them directly to RCC. Are you using Photobucket? I haven't noticed a limit there.

03-25-2007, 02:42 PM	#48
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	I still load my pictures to photobucket, but I want to upload the PDF files. I could probably convert them to a JPEG but I wouldn't want the scale to get messed up. Maybe someone that has a website on here would host them for us.

03-28-2007, 09:20 PM	#49
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	Looks like it worked!!!! Here is Gula's...................HIS IS TITANIUM!!! My K2-3L Rubi With WK axles "In progress"

03-29-2007, 01:28 PM	#50
NickRummy RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Akron Posts: 1,784	Saweeet!

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04-05-2007, 12:09 AM	#52
neverupright Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: On the Rocks Posts: 34	I second that

04-05-2007, 06:57 AM	#53
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	I am up for having a vendor make and sell them, I would not be holding them back. I am willing to give them my template to make it easier. Bug your vendors guys. Josh

04-05-2007, 03:06 PM	#54
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	Today when I was cuting out the template for the new clocked motor plate I noticed that it printed smaller then 1:1. I checked the paper template against the design and concluded that Adobe PDF Maker actually shinks the print by almost 5%. So I corrected the output size and everything should be good now. This is the reason why the servo mounts were not lining up 100% correctly (more like 96% correctly). With things this small it can really cause a problem. If I would have had an axle here to check it against I could have caught this alot sooner. Anyways, a new template is available for anyone who wants it.

04-11-2007, 12:35 PM	#57
Mriccucci Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Brevard County Posts: 5	Finished the Servo Mount today, no linkage yet hopefully i can do that tonight.

04-11-2007, 09:48 PM	#58
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	Looks good! Can you get a shot from directly behind the axle if you get a chance? Josh

04-11-2007, 10:07 PM	#59
joemomma95 Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sierra Vista Posts: 672	I have a question(probably a simple answer for it, I feel dumb asking)...why is the servo off to the side on all the mounts I've ever seen? Does it have to do with the clearances on the pumpkin? BTW, nice idea, I'm sure my WK will get this eventually, I was wondering something else also...wouldn't it be beneficial to have the BTA setup? I look at the front setup and it just looks like it's begging to be smashed in a front end collision. I know crawlers aren't that fast but what happens if you land on the front of the truck coming off a rock face or something? Just trying to think ahead..

04-11-2007, 10:24 PM	#60
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	The servo is off to the side for two reasons: 1: To keep the height down. With how low we like to run our rigs it is nice to not have an axle setup that isn't 4 inchs tall. 2: Keep the Center or Gravity as low as possible. and on the TBA setup:

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