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EeePee · 12-13-2008, 10:47 AM

Truck whore that I am, I had to get one of these too. Will it take my seriously abused Berg's place as my comp truck? That is the question at hand my friends. We shall see. If not, then I still have a cool Kyosho truck to add to the collection.

As much as I want it to work perfectly right from the box, I just don't see that happening. I'll be adding the high speed gears and dig option parts when I get them, along with Eritex's wheels. That will be my real starting point.

Being on board with Reign RC, that will be my choice for an aftermarket chassis, when that time comes.

It sits here in running form, with the electronics slapped in place so I could try it out already. I don't think they can stay there if I mount the body. I believe it sits quite low, and the electronics will hit. Speaking of the body, it's damn cool, but not legal so I'm not sure what to run at the comps...

For the moment, I have a Holmes Hobbies 10 turn Cobalt Puller and MaxAmps 3S 2200 lipo pack.

I did make a change to the gearing after the first run. I went from an 18 tooth pinion to a 26. Stock final drive is ~143:1 and now I'm at ~99:1. It's not terrible, but I'd like just a bit more. It has a lot of get up and go snap to it, but I want just a little more. Enough so it's like a lunge forward when you gun it.

Still a lot of room for a larger pinion gear, notice how the screws are placed.

I have very lightweight oil in the shocks. 15 in front, and 20 in back because they are laid down a little. I didn't modify the shock pistons like they suggest, and with 40 weight in the cold, they wouldn't move at all. I've cinched down the suspension as Kyosho has it spec'd out in the instructions. Skidplate is pretty low this way. Also, I've started cutting out a longer axle mount for the Panhard bar. After speaking with a suspension geek friend of mine, and wanting a higher skidplate height, and parallel Panhard bar, I can move the Roll Center up, and idealy have less weight transfer. Lowering the chassis side of the Panhard will lower the Roll Center and increase weight transfer.

So this here is the beginning of my Kyosho Rock Force experience.

The Eye · 12-13-2008, 10:59 AM

So why is the body not iegal,

nice motor you should have alot wheel speed with it

Let us know how it drives

roborg5000 · 12-13-2008, 11:02 AM

Do i feel a win coming next week ?

killjoyken · 12-13-2008, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Eye

So why is the body not iegal,

nice motor you should have alot wheel speed with it

Let us know how it drives

The body's only 4" wide. Rules require a 5" width.

He's got no wheel speed with that 99:1 ratio.

Not to worry, high speed gears are finally here.

EP: Can't wait to see what you do with it!

EeePee · 12-13-2008, 11:11 AM

Aaron, John beat me to the answer, but he is correct. It's unfortunate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by roborg5000

Do i feel a win coming next week ?

We'll see! Besides my Berg is always ready to kick ass if I'm not ready to wheel the Kyosho yet. One thing is for sure, the Kyosho can go so incredibly slow, it makes me want to relearn the super slow approach to crawling.

EeePee · 12-13-2008, 11:12 AM

Okay, well John deleted his post, but killjoyken has an answer too.

It's got some get up and go, nothing ridiculous though. Not like the new trend of rock racers out there.

Unimoger · 12-13-2008, 11:15 AM

sure ,

I 'll play along. what's next?

we want video.

Georgerm · 12-13-2008, 11:24 AM

crap you got another new toy to beat us all with.

EeePee · 12-13-2008, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unimoger

sure ,

I 'll play along. what's next?

we want video.

What up Ben!? Next... hmm. Well, I'll probably put some foams in the tires, and glue them to see how they do. I've read not good, but I gotta try for myself. What I'll probably do is mount up my VP DH Comps with the Panthers already on them. One less thing to fault, as I know those work great. Until Eritex Gerame gets us those RF wheels he's shown off.

Video... I haven't made one of those in a long time. This could be the right time to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Georgerm

crap you got another new toy to beat us all with.

Yeah being a single 30 something with an okay paying job has some perks, like being able to buy toys when I want. I can't complain.

killjoyken · 12-13-2008, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee

What I'll probably do is mount up my VP DH Comps with the Panthers already on them. One less thing to fault, as I know those work great. Until Eritex Gerame gets us those RF wheels he's shown off.

To mount the DH's you'll have to bolt the hub adapter first, then bolt the hub adater to the wheel. Unless you have a 10mm socket that can fit in the DH. You'll also want to use the narrowest offset hub adapters too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee

Yeah being a single 30 something with an okay paying job has some perks, like being able to buy toys when I want. I can't complain.

Same here. And people wonder why I'm single.

EeePee · 12-13-2008, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killjoyken

To mount the DH's you'll have to bolt the hub adapter first, then bolt the hub adater to the wheel.

Thanks. I think I read that in your thread, or some post you made.

I hope the red Loctite I used on those wheels isn't a pain in the butt.

binaryterror · 12-15-2008, 09:13 AM

I thought you only ran Droopers?

carbonuts · 12-15-2008, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binaryterror

I thought you only ran Droopers?

That's his pants your thinking of.

Looks good Cory.

Have you had it on the rocks yet?

4stAir · 12-15-2008, 12:22 PM

so you bought one of those screaming crawlers too...

i am gonna wait till i see you or john make one work on the rocks then i will go get one to.

EeePee · 12-15-2008, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binaryterror

I thought you only ran Droopers?

Nah, for two days back in 2005 with my TXT, and just this Berg thing I have. All my other trucks have been sprung. I like the spring, but the droopy Berg does good. Probably cause it doesn't have those damn driveshafts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbonuts

That's his pants your thinking of.

Looks good Cory.

Have you had it on the rocks yet?

At least you said pants! And thanks Josh.

I've not had it on any rock yet, but I've driven it a little bit. Tuesday will be it's first scratch. I can't wait.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4stAir

so you bought one of those screaming crawlers too...

i am gonna wait till i see you or john make one work

This thing IS TOTALLY a screamer, but in a good way. I have every intention in my world to make it work good, and at first with as minimal effort as I can. I don't think it's nearly as bad as some of the nay sayers do, but of course, I haven't put the thing on a single rock yet.

Got an old Proline Courier body on it for tomorrow's first outing. Looks okay I guess, but it's no comp body.

More, later...

quickster47 · 12-15-2008, 04:53 PM

EP, nice looking ride and as others have already stated, we anxiously await your opinion on how it really performs in a comp.

Carl

Rckcrwlr · 12-15-2008, 05:42 PM

Good Luck Cory...

I haven't touched mine yet. Figured I will wait for some packages to arrive and do it all at once...

Let me know if the 10T heats up. The 7T was generating some heat at Cole's Place...

sally1800 · 12-15-2008, 06:12 PM

so are you guys saying that these Rock Force are crap. I have been really wanting to get one. They look great. Very Solid.

Rckcrwlr · 12-15-2008, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saydee1800

so are you guys saying that these Rock Force are crap. I have been really wanting to get one. They look great. Very Solid.

And where do you read that in any of the posts on this thread????

Racer4Life · 12-15-2008, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rckcrwlr

And where do you read that in any of the posts on this thread????

Had to be Cory that said it!

Nice rig. That body sucks.

12-13-2008, 10:47 AM	#1
EeePee MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,928	EP's Rock Force Truck whore that I am, I had to get one of these too. Will it take my seriously abused Berg's place as my comp truck? That is the question at hand my friends. We shall see. If not, then I still have a cool Kyosho truck to add to the collection. As much as I want it to work perfectly right from the box, I just don't see that happening. I'll be adding the high speed gears and dig option parts when I get them, along with Eritex's wheels. That will be my real starting point. Being on board with Reign RC, that will be my choice for an aftermarket chassis, when that time comes. It sits here in running form, with the electronics slapped in place so I could try it out already. I don't think they can stay there if I mount the body. I believe it sits quite low, and the electronics will hit. Speaking of the body, it's damn cool, but not legal so I'm not sure what to run at the comps... For the moment, I have a Holmes Hobbies 10 turn Cobalt Puller and MaxAmps 3S 2200 lipo pack. I did make a change to the gearing after the first run. I went from an 18 tooth pinion to a 26. Stock final drive is ~143:1 and now I'm at ~99:1. It's not terrible, but I'd like just a bit more. It has a lot of get up and go snap to it, but I want just a little more. Enough so it's like a lunge forward when you gun it. Still a lot of room for a larger pinion gear, notice how the screws are placed. I have very lightweight oil in the shocks. 15 in front, and 20 in back because they are laid down a little. I didn't modify the shock pistons like they suggest, and with 40 weight in the cold, they wouldn't move at all. I've cinched down the suspension as Kyosho has it spec'd out in the instructions. Skidplate is pretty low this way. Also, I've started cutting out a longer axle mount for the Panhard bar. After speaking with a suspension geek friend of mine, and wanting a higher skidplate height, and parallel Panhard bar, I can move the Roll Center up, and idealy have less weight transfer. Lowering the chassis side of the Panhard will lower the Roll Center and increase weight transfer. So this here is the beginning of my Kyosho Rock Force experience.

12-13-2008, 10:59 AM	#2
The Eye WWW.THEROXBOX.COM Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Legend of Stone Pillow Posts: 1,404	So why is the body not iegal, nice motor you should have alot wheel speed with it Let us know how it drives

12-13-2008, 11:02 AM	#3
roborg5000 support@rc4wd.com Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ohio Posts: 1,417	Do i feel a win coming next week ?

12-13-2008, 11:12 AM	#6
EeePee MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,928	Okay, well John deleted his post, but killjoyken has an answer too. It's got some get up and go, nothing ridiculous though. Not like the new trend of rock racers out there.

12-13-2008, 11:15 AM	#7
Unimoger I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: G6'N Posts: 7,391	sure , I 'll play along. what's next? we want video.

12-13-2008, 11:24 AM	#8
Georgerm Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: columbus Posts: 487	crap you got another new toy to beat us all with.

12-15-2008, 09:13 AM	#12
binaryterror I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 3,583	I thought you only ran Droopers?

12-15-2008, 12:22 PM	#14
4stAir RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Amish Ghetto Posts: 1,932	so you bought one of those screaming crawlers too... i am gonna wait till i see you or john make one work on the rocks then i will go get one to.

12-15-2008, 04:53 PM	#16
quickster47 Quarry Creeper Join Date: May 2005 Location: Crossville,TN Posts: 363	EP, nice looking ride and as others have already stated, we anxiously await your opinion on how it really performs in a comp. Carl

12-15-2008, 05:42 PM	#17
Rckcrwlr I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Here Posts: 7,317	Good Luck Cory... I haven't touched mine yet. Figured I will wait for some packages to arrive and do it all at once... Let me know if the 10T heats up. The 7T was generating some heat at Cole's Place...

12-15-2008, 06:12 PM	#18
sally1800 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ? Posts: 5,055	so are you guys saying that these Rock Force are crap. I have been really wanting to get one. They look great. Very Solid.

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