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Old 10-12-2007, 12:10 PM   #41
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I guess that answers the questions about the two servos in the cab. No i hadn't noticed, but you're right.
It has a 2 speed tranny.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:19 PM   #42
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Maybe this is what ElChupacabra means. Now that I've noticed it, it sure seems "wierd and offset" to me as well. I was too busy wondering why that zip-tie fed into the chassis through that slot:



Did somebody not follow the instructions or something?? Who else thinks both the rod ends should be inside those mounts with some different spacers?

Maybe that's how they are dealing with torque-twist?

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Well not if the pumpkin is offset. They have to go to the center of the axle not on top of the diff. That's my guess anyway??
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What is wrong with having the pumpkin off set? pros/cons?
The Twin Force also had an offset pumpkin.
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the upper links are not offset, the pumpkin Is.
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Well not if the pumpkin is offset. They have to go to the center of the axle not on top of the diff. That's my guess anyway??
I don't know - the pumpkin looks centered in the axle to me. The rod ends sure are'nt!

This rig may have been fabricated specifically to generate interest at this show. It may have never even been powered up and driven. It's still very interesting...
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What is wrong with having the pumpkin off set? pros/cons?
The Twin Force also had an offset pumpkin.
Big pro to me, just as with the TF, three different widths can be created very easily.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:42 PM   #48
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What is wrong with having the pumpkin off set? pros/cons?
The Twin Force also had an offset pumpkin.
I don't see any problem with offsetting the differential in itself - but the mounts are obviously centered on the differential.

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the upper links are not offset, the pumpkin Is.
If it is offset, it has to be to the side the servo is mounted on. Would'nt that make this link placement even worse?? I'm just going by what I see.

We need a straight-on shot of this set up to be sure I guess...
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Maybe its not offset at all, maybe the links are like that to fight torque twist?
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Maybe this is what ElChupacabra means. Now that I've noticed it, it sure seems "wierd and offset" to me as well. I was too busy wondering why that zip-tie fed into the chassis through that slot:



Did somebody not follow the instructions or something?? Who else thinks both the rod ends should be inside those mounts with some different spacers?

Maybe that's how they are dealing with torque-twist?
It's not that wire you can see is secured to the upper link...the black line is as mentioned some sort of winch line or even a limiting strap?
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:00 PM   #51
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Actually now I'm thinking JRH is right - the pumpkin is roughly centered on the drag link in the pic, but the rear wheels are at full lock to the left.

And that would place the upper links in the right position.

This is more than likely not a final production version either.

We need more pictures of this rig. We've got us an optical illusion here...

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Old 10-12-2007, 01:01 PM   #52
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I don't see any problem with offsetting the differential in itself - but the mounts are obviously centered on the differential.



If it is offset, it has to be to the side the servo is mounted on. Would'nt that make this link placement even worse?? I'm just going by what I see.

We need a straight-on shot of this set up to be sure I guess...
The diff is offset with the upper link mounts so they moved them over to center them over the axle!

and there is 4 servos in that chassis! there is way to much going on in that thing! sometimes simple is better!
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Did anyone even read what Rockpiledriver wrote? I'm not sure how a two-speed would work but it sounds like a cool idea.
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theres only a couple of words in english on the first pic..

two of wich are "hi , lo"...

possibly 2 speed tranny????

just a thought
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I realize it is very difficult to understand this project just from a few pictures of a prototype rig from a hobby show. It is only a "prototype."

It is also very difficult for me and others associated with RCP Crawlers to not be able to join in this thread with all the unanswered questions and unclear discussions for which we DO have answers for.

I am awaiting for approval from Kyosho, to disclose details about this project and other projects in the works. We have been involved in it for over 1 1/2 years now and should be able to fill you in shortly.

I can tell you there are greater Kyosho projects in the works. We have already tested some of them.

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Old 10-12-2007, 01:30 PM   #56
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Freaking sweet!

From what I see:
Selectable Hi & Low speeds
Front & Rear Steer
Rear Winch for Sinch Down
40 Series Wheels/Tires
New "Full Width" Axles

Used google to translate the page at Kyosho:
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R / C ROKKUKURORA a new category under the "ROKKUFOSU" was born. 2 3 (Hi,Lo) Speed 2 3 MODOTORANSUFA (Hi, Lo, RIADORAIBUKATTO), and introduces a number of new mechanisms. I can not wait to announce the details of the fan in the exhibition area is booming.

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I realize it is very difficult to understand this project just from a few pictures of a prototype rig from a hobby show. It is only a "prototype."

It is also very difficult for me and others associated with RCP Crawlers to not be able to join in this thread with all the unanswered questions and unclear discussions for which we DO have answers for.

I am awaiting for approval from Kyosho, to disclose details about this project and other projects in the works. We have been involved in it for over 1 1/2 years now and should be able to fill you in shortly.

I can tell you there are greater Kyosho projects in the works. We have already tested some of them.
this is the kinda thing that frustrates me to no end. people know about it but dont/cant share it.
most things have sneak peaks, long before there released. take the Camaro concept for example, pics, specs, even the car on display have been out for 2 years now, and its got another year until its released. yet no one could say a peep or show a spy shot of a toy truck.:-( i just dont see how this benifets anyone.:-(
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this is the kinda thing that frustrates me to no end. people know about it but dont/cant share it.
most things have sneak peaks, long before there released. take the Camaro concept for example, pics, specs, even the car on display have been out for 2 years now, and its got another year until its released. yet no one could say a peep or show a spy shot of a toy truck.:-( i just dont see how this benifets anyone.:-(
Um what do you think the picture from the show is? This is the sneak peak/spy shot your describing. Why would a company show pics during the development stage. Thats not the way it works. Kyosho displayed their prototype at the Japan hobby show for to you see a sneak peak on what their working on. This isn't the production model. Get a grip. It's just a "toy truck" as you put it.

There's always that one guy who can turn such a positive into a negative.

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nearly two years later? and to answer your question, GM, RC4wd, i can go on if you like? many of which specs and sneak peaks release as early as the sketching/design phase.

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Again, there's always that one guy who can turn such a positive into a negative.
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