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Old 12-13-2008, 11:47 AM   #1
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Truck whore that I am, I had to get one of these too. Will it take my seriously abused Berg's place as my comp truck? That is the question at hand my friends. We shall see. If not, then I still have a cool Kyosho truck to add to the collection.

As much as I want it to work perfectly right from the box, I just don't see that happening. I'll be adding the high speed gears and dig option parts when I get them, along with Eritex's wheels. That will be my real starting point.

Being on board with Reign RC, that will be my choice for an aftermarket chassis, when that time comes.

It sits here in running form, with the electronics slapped in place so I could try it out already. I don't think they can stay there if I mount the body. I believe it sits quite low, and the electronics will hit. Speaking of the body, it's damn cool, but not legal so I'm not sure what to run at the comps...

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For the moment, I have a Holmes Hobbies 10 turn Cobalt Puller and MaxAmps 3S 2200 lipo pack.

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I did make a change to the gearing after the first run. I went from an 18 tooth pinion to a 26. Stock final drive is ~143:1 and now I'm at ~99:1. It's not terrible, but I'd like just a bit more. It has a lot of get up and go snap to it, but I want just a little more. Enough so it's like a lunge forward when you gun it.

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Still a lot of room for a larger pinion gear, notice how the screws are placed.

I have very lightweight oil in the shocks. 15 in front, and 20 in back because they are laid down a little. I didn't modify the shock pistons like they suggest, and with 40 weight in the cold, they wouldn't move at all. I've cinched down the suspension as Kyosho has it spec'd out in the instructions. Skidplate is pretty low this way. Also, I've started cutting out a longer axle mount for the Panhard bar. After speaking with a suspension geek friend of mine, and wanting a higher skidplate height, and parallel Panhard bar, I can move the Roll Center up, and idealy have less weight transfer. Lowering the chassis side of the Panhard will lower the Roll Center and increase weight transfer.


So this here is the beginning of my Kyosho Rock Force experience.

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Old 12-13-2008, 11:59 AM   #2
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So why is the body not iegal,

nice motor you should have alot wheel speed with it

Let us know how it drives
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Do i feel a win coming next week ?
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So why is the body not iegal,

nice motor you should have alot wheel speed with it

Let us know how it drives
The body's only 4" wide. Rules require a 5" width.

He's got no wheel speed with that 99:1 ratio. Not to worry, high speed gears are finally here.

EP: Can't wait to see what you do with it!
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Aaron, John beat me to the answer, but he is correct. It's unfortunate.

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Do i feel a win coming next week ?
We'll see! Besides my Berg is always ready to kick ass if I'm not ready to wheel the Kyosho yet. One thing is for sure, the Kyosho can go so incredibly slow, it makes me want to relearn the super slow approach to crawling.
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Old 12-13-2008, 12:12 PM   #6
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Okay, well John deleted his post, but killjoyken has an answer too.

It's got some get up and go, nothing ridiculous though. Not like the new trend of rock racers out there.
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sure , I 'll play along. what's next? we want video.
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crap you got another new toy to beat us all with.
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sure , I 'll play along. what's next? we want video.
What up Ben!? Next... hmm. Well, I'll probably put some foams in the tires, and glue them to see how they do. I've read not good, but I gotta try for myself. What I'll probably do is mount up my VP DH Comps with the Panthers already on them. One less thing to fault, as I know those work great. Until Eritex Gerame gets us those RF wheels he's shown off.

Video... I haven't made one of those in a long time. This could be the right time to.

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crap you got another new toy to beat us all with.
Yeah being a single 30 something with an okay paying job has some perks, like being able to buy toys when I want. I can't complain.
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What I'll probably do is mount up my VP DH Comps with the Panthers already on them. One less thing to fault, as I know those work great. Until Eritex Gerame gets us those RF wheels he's shown off.
To mount the DH's you'll have to bolt the hub adapter first, then bolt the hub adater to the wheel. Unless you have a 10mm socket that can fit in the DH. You'll also want to use the narrowest offset hub adapters too.

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Yeah being a single 30 something with an okay paying job has some perks, like being able to buy toys when I want. I can't complain.
Same here. And people wonder why I'm single.
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To mount the DH's you'll have to bolt the hub adapter first, then bolt the hub adater to the wheel.
Thanks. I think I read that in your thread, or some post you made.

I hope the red Loctite I used on those wheels isn't a pain in the butt.
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I thought you only ran Droopers?
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I thought you only ran Droopers?

That's his pants your thinking of.



Looks good Cory. Have you had it on the rocks yet?
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so you bought one of those screaming crawlers too...

i am gonna wait till i see you or john make one work on the rocks then i will go get one to.
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I thought you only ran Droopers?
Nah, for two days back in 2005 with my TXT, and just this Berg thing I have. All my other trucks have been sprung. I like the spring, but the droopy Berg does good. Probably cause it doesn't have those damn driveshafts.

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That's his pants your thinking of.

Looks good Cory. Have you had it on the rocks yet?
At least you said pants! And thanks Josh.

I've not had it on any rock yet, but I've driven it a little bit. Tuesday will be it's first scratch. I can't wait.

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so you bought one of those screaming crawlers too...

i am gonna wait till i see you or john make one work
This thing IS TOTALLY a screamer, but in a good way. I have every intention in my world to make it work good, and at first with as minimal effort as I can. I don't think it's nearly as bad as some of the nay sayers do, but of course, I haven't put the thing on a single rock yet.

Got an old Proline Courier body on it for tomorrow's first outing. Looks okay I guess, but it's no comp body.

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More, later...
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EP, nice looking ride and as others have already stated, we anxiously await your opinion on how it really performs in a comp.

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Good Luck Cory...

I haven't touched mine yet. Figured I will wait for some packages to arrive and do it all at once...

Let me know if the 10T heats up. The 7T was generating some heat at Cole's Place...
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so are you guys saying that these Rock Force are crap. I have been really wanting to get one. They look great. Very Solid.
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so are you guys saying that these Rock Force are crap. I have been really wanting to get one. They look great. Very Solid.
And where do you read that in any of the posts on this thread????
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And where do you read that in any of the posts on this thread????

Had to be Cory that said it!

Nice rig. That body sucks.
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