06-24-2009, 03:40 AM | #1 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: in the shop, of corse!
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| 1/6 scale comp rules ? Well everybody else is doing it.... even if we dont get them added to the real rules, just for reference ? just thinking about recent talk of a 1/6 KOH Rock Race sounds like expensive rig bashing imo but ...oh well So the 1.9's and 2.2's have their rules how bout some "guidelines" for the big rigs super rules work for the most part but might want to change... >wheelbase and track width limits should be 16" min with no max >6" min tire > 12" driver figure just an idea..... Gadge |
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06-24-2009, 09:57 AM | #2 |
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Sounds good Where is the rock racing ? Whats with the 16" wheel base, put them all in 16 17 and 18 I'm not changing my whole rig to go 16" |
06-24-2009, 12:54 PM | #3 |
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16" minimum which scales out to 96" I dont think many 1:1's are less than that 6" tire which equals 36" |
06-24-2009, 01:32 PM | #4 | |
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None except, CJ5's, M38's, Sammy's, Cj2's, Geo's (yes people crawl with them) cj7's, Cj3's,fc150's cant remember the tj of hand, shortened mini trucks etc... Also, allot of people run smaller than a 36" tire. Some classes even limit them to 33's. Also, a 2.2 rim with a set of tall tires like Chisels make a pretty accurate 35" tire with a 15" rim. I have a 1:6 cj2 that is on hold while I finish the 1:1 version of it. Once I get back to it, it will sport WK axles, 2.2 rims with tall tires and about a 14" WB. Making it almost perfectly scale of the 1:1. But by the rules suggested, not a scaler. | |
06-24-2009, 03:07 PM | #5 |
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I think setting "minimums" is a good idea. I have one concern though. How would the term "scale" be defined in this category. Take my rig for instance, The chassis is a number matching scale representation of the full size rig, but the axle and tire combo is not. I knew this from the initial concept and I made some design considerations to that effect. Also to get the correct link ratio I had to push the front axle out in front of the chassis some. ( now it is not in the scale guidelines ) Also the rig I built has no hood,and again this would make it out of the scale guidelines. I know some of this has been discussed in other threads but I think the word " scale " is the wrong word to use. Almost all of the " scale " rigs are not scale because the numbers do not match a true 1.1. , especially when it comes to tire size. A 2.2 rig having a 12.5" wheel base is not "scale". I don't know to many rigs that have a 125" wheel base and 22" rims that are crawlers. I know every on will say that it is not 1/10th but that is the most common scale of the bodies that I have seen being used. I don't want to get everyone all riled up over this but I think that we should come up with a different term to describe our rigs. Possibly use " class " instead. |
06-24-2009, 03:42 PM | #6 |
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I usually configure 1.9's for 1/10 and 2.2's for 1/8and they usually scale out Really! close and yes alot of the 1/10 bodies scale out to more like 1/8 could just forget bout it ..... all i wanted to say is BUILD BIG enough to put a cup holder in it for your beer if it scales out to have little tires so be it |
06-24-2009, 03:51 PM | #7 |
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06-24-2009, 06:28 PM | #8 |
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I am just saying that if they run a 2.2 tire they should be in the 2.2 class. This class should be for a rim larger than 2.2. This would keep the rigs larger and would eliminate a 40 series rig competing against a 2.2 based rig even if they have a body that is 1/6 in dimensions.
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06-24-2009, 09:26 PM | #9 | |
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33's are for girls Men use 36" and taller | |
06-25-2009, 07:06 AM | #10 | |
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in a way I agree, I personally am going 36's on a cj2 (makes me smile everytime I look at it) but there is still the point that a big portion of the wheeling crowd runs a smaller tire. SCRC just went thru this with our scale rules, we decided to go loose on the rules for the first year and then tighten them up as time goes on and more people get involved because we were argueing continually about the rules. | |
06-25-2009, 08:12 AM | #11 | |
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Cool so I can run Chisels | |
06-25-2009, 09:08 AM | #12 | |
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I see where you are coming from with the 40's, but there is that word " scale " again that causes all of the issues. Case in point being the Willies Jeeps. Being a 1/6 body and using a 2.2 rim and a 5.5" tall tire; that would calculate to a 33" tire on a 13" rim. Not too scale either but that seems to be the most popular combo. If a 3.2 rim was used with a 7" tall tire that would be a 19" rim with a 42" tall tire. That seems to be the closest to what most of the full size trail rigs are running today. I understand that there is allot of grey areas when it comes to this topic and I know that I don't have as much experience with it as most of you. I am just trying to get a better understanding as to the separation of the classes. | |
06-25-2009, 10:03 AM | #13 |
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really it needs to be like a 2.8" rim and a 6" tire but, sometimes you have to make exceptions. Its just my opinion that more tire and less rim tends to look more scale for a trail rig than the other way around. I had some nice low pro maxx sized rims on my first super years back and it looked completely gangster mall crawler.
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07-29-2009, 07:22 PM | #14 |
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I would rather have a more scale looking rig than to have a gangster mall war wagon, should be a limit to rig weight 10 to 15 lbs without a trailer hangin' off the tail end, gear requirements should be another thing, do we really need to put a ice box in the back when there is much cooler things that you can put in the back of your Willys or what have you.
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07-30-2009, 02:23 PM | #15 |
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