Certainly not original "Willys"

[snydercj7]

I measure twice and cut once.

I measure three times, think about it for many many minutes, measure it again and finally bend once.

I am pretty sure it was beginners luck.

[2manyprojects]

Very nice build so far!

[snydercj7]

Here is a little progress.

A piece of aluminum.


A frame rail pattern.


A couple of rails scratched into the plate ready for cutting.


Maybe some day this thing will be a crawler.

[snydercj7]

Finally broke out the almost not adequate scroll saw. Even though this is not the most ideal way to do this or the best work area I was able to prevail and we have a pair of frame rails waiting for file/ dremel/ sanding work. The cross members should not be as much of an effort.

[paleblue46]

kinda strange your building a willys and your aluminum says kaiser , cool build

[snydercj7]

Originally Posted by paleblue46

kinda strange your building a willys and your aluminum says kaiser , cool build

LOL! Good eye, I was not even paying attention to that.

[Big Mike]

Originally Posted by snydercj7

Finally broke out the almost not adequate scroll saw. Even though this is not the most ideal way to do this or the best work area I was able to prevail and we have a pair of frame rails waiting for file/ dremel/ sanding work. The cross members should not be as much of an effort.

Damn. You are a patient man! Did one blade make it the whole way?

I've thought about buying a scroll saw but was always afraid I'd "overwork" it once I had it. I may think about it again now...

[dadrab]

The major problem I've had cutting frame rails using a scroll saw very similar to this one is that there are really no proper blades available for the task. The last set I cut must've cost me 6 blades.

Nice looking work there, man.

[snydercj7]

Originally Posted by Big Mike

Damn. You are a patient man! Did one blade make it the whole way?

I've thought about buying a scroll saw but was always afraid I'd "overwork" it once I had it. I may think about it again now...

The poor little scroll saw was working and the motor was hot. I ended up double ziploc bagging some ice to help the motor. I burned through some blades for sure. But this will probably be my only frame rail project. A nice big industrial bandsaw would be nice but propably going to cost more then the Benjaman this thing cost me.

Originally Posted by dadrab

The major problem I've had cutting frame rails using a scroll saw very similar to this one is that there are really no proper blades available for the task. The last set I cut must've cost me 6 blades.

Nice looking work there, man.

Thank you sir, as I/ you said definately takes a few blades to get a project like this done.

Almost done with another hobby/ project. A buddy built this frame (I have dreamed about having one for 20yrs now) and I finally got my hands on it. It's a 26" sort of trials bike with a rear derailer, also dubbed Strange Bike #12. Chris King hubs/ headset, Magura hydralic brakes and various other bits and pieces have been taking away from the Willys. Hope to be settled and have my tools available to me again by the end of the year so I can get back to this Willys project.

[Rodamis]

Hoping this Willy's hasn't thrown in the towel it has a great start to it

[TJ Steve]

You do any more work on this Willys?

[snydercj7]

Not to worry, finally settled in on the other side of the country and pulled my little sander and drill press out of storage. I have cleaned up the main rails as well as cut out and cleaned up cross members and bumpers. Figured once I have them drilled, tapped, and frame mounted to the body I would give an actual update.

[snydercj7]

For those that have had an interest in this slow to build thread. Getting the drill press & sander out of storage, adding a tap & die set to my collection, I finally can present you all with a basic frame. lol At this rate I might finish my Willys by retirement, which is a very long ways away.


A peak at the under carriage.


A couple of front shots.




Next step will be to get the body holes drilled into the frame so I can get my 4 link triangulated suspension tide into the mix. Starting to get excited to have this thing actually sitting on it's own vs with jack stands.

A quick mock up.

[Big Mike]

It's good to see this one being worked on again!! Too nice a start to give up on!

[snydercj7]

Now that I am getting closer to installing the drive train. Any one have any experience with the RC4WD planetary transmission. Wondering how it will actually hold up to a possible 20lbs and power needed to get this beast rolling over technical trails. Every one swears on the Axial trans wondering if that would also be a better way to go and get me out of the 115:1 crawl ratio. After getting my the planetary transmission I was more then disappointed to see the thin stamped gears which have pushed my concern.

[4wd4ws]

Originally Posted by snydercj7

Now that I am getting closer to installing the drive train. Any one have any experience with the RC4WD planetary transmission. Wondering how it will actually hold up to a possible 20lbs and power needed to get this beast rolling over technical trails. Every one swears on the Axial trans wondering if that would also be a better way to go and get me out of the 115:1 crawl ratio. After getting my the planetary transmission I was more then disappointed to see the thin stamped gears which have pushed my concern.

Built Axial trans is the way to go. (ratio)
The planetary transmission can handle the torque but it is heavy and quite long with a motor bolted to it.
If you decide to go with the planetary transmission make sure to break it in first (no load) with a big blob of grease. This will make it a lot less noisy.

[snydercj7]

Any one know the actual ratio for the Axial transmission? I know you can very it with the spur and pinion. I am looking at a 16:1 ratio on the planetary. Good to know that the planetary can handle the torque. Would like to get this thing set up correctly with a motor that will not be screaming to make this pig move at more then a snails pace. Probably need to connect with Mr. Holmes to narrow down this decision.

[snydercj7]

Another question for the Willy's crowd.

What is your frame height, wondering where the group is sitting? I don't want to make this thing sit up too high, but would like some decent break over.

[BigSki]

Originally Posted by snydercj7

Any one know the actual ratio for the Axial transmission? I know you can very it with the spur and pinion. I am looking at a 16:1 ratio on the planetary. Good to know that the planetary can handle the torque. Would like to get this thing set up correctly with a motor that will not be screaming to make this pig move at more then a snails pace. Probably need to connect with Mr. Holmes to narrow down this decision.

I believe the ratio of the Axial gear box is 2.6:1, then you multiply the ratio of the spur and pinion. For example, the stock spur and pinion is 87/16, which is 5.44, then you multiply that by the gear box ratio, so you have 5.44 x 2.6, which is 14.144:1. Most of us are running a reduction ratio t-case as well. My orange Willys uses the Disruptor t-case w/ the 2.18 gearing.

[snydercj7]

Thanks for the info BigSki. My current drive train ratio 115.45:1, the ratio from above would have me @ 102.03:1. Not a huge difference, I dont think. Guess I will try what I have.