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ferp420 08-29-2016 10:36 PM

1/4 scale wraith the max-W
I was trying to make new framerails for my wraith but it dident work out that way they where just to big so i ran with it this ended up bigger than i wanted but hay
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ferp420 08-29-2016 10:37 PM

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ferp420 08-29-2016 10:40 PM

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Next to my spawn


ferp420 08-29-2016 10:47 PM

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Compaired to the yeti xlhttp://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/...psswqadysi.jpg

ferp420 08-29-2016 10:50 PM

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ferp420 08-29-2016 11:01 PM

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The plan is to use some modded maxstone axles for now i hope to some day get the 1/4 scale axles from rc4wd and some 40 series rock locks

ferp420 08-29-2016 11:04 PM

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the_law_man01 08-30-2016 07:59 AM

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Looks like nice work from here.

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ferp420 09-01-2016 01:42 PM

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Mocked up


ferp420 09-01-2016 01:55 PM

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Im thinking of using the max stone chassie for the center console since its the perfict size and makes mounting the upper links easy i have the metal gears and the yeti xl axle shafts on the way i just need to get the long side axle tubes to make the axles the right size i ran out of welding wire so i cant finnish the cage yet ether then i need to do the interior the bed all the electronics wll be in the center console im not sure where im gona mount the batteries yet though im debating running the novack 45t rockstars or if i should change out to traxxas 550 motors i have laying around and i need to find some good tires and ill have a sweet new wraith xl or kinda lol

the_law_man01 11-26-2016 11:36 AM

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Anymore progress?

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ferp420 11-27-2016 09:05 AM

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I just got all the parts less the tires 2 days ago and will be installing them as soon as i get home im still a few days out yet its just too big to keep in the truck when im on the road im debating whether or not to use the max stone chassie as the center console i picked up a maxstone 16 and am starting to miss my maxstone 5 i might have to build a new one maybe this will be up and running in time for the king of the hammers for sure hopefully in full scale dress i dont know if i will have new tires yet though those big tires are pricy ill run the stock ones till i can aford new ones

the_law_man01 11-27-2016 10:22 AM

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With your fab skills, it shouldn't be to hard to make a copy of the Max-5 chassis plates.

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ferp420 11-28-2016 09:14 AM

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Thanks yo i might try a custom crawler chassie and use maxstone parts but i think if im building a new max stone 5 is gona be close to stock because the parts are cheap after market parts that size are out of my reach price wise im realy hoping i can get the maxstone axles to hold up if they do im gona try my hand at a bomber

ferp420 12-12-2016 10:51 AM

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Update I'm building the axles right now I'm hoping to cut the new axle shafts today once the axles are done I'm gonna remove the Madstone chassis and add upper link mounts upper shock mounts and I'm gonna add some gussets here and there to mount the body panels to and add a few more suports the metal gears are MIA at the moment and the stock tires are way to small but I have spare plastic gears and I can run the little tires for a while I also need to make some kind of axle trusses and skid plates I'll probably have it running around Christmas And hopefully completely done by the hammers

ferp420 12-13-2016 03:19 PM

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The yeti xl rear axle shafts do fit i need different bearings though i sleaved the shafts as a temp solution but i have one axle built now on to the next ill get pics of where i cut the shafts at i allmost cut them to short i figured i would start with 2 shafts and im glad i did one side is about a 1/2" longer than the other hopefilly this solves the weak axke shaft problem

ferp420 12-14-2016 08:35 AM

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Comperison to the yeti xl


ferp420 12-14-2016 08:38 AM

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the_law_man01 12-14-2016 09:00 AM

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Wow! Looking good!

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ferp420 12-14-2016 09:04 AM

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On the right is the original long side shaft which is now the short side and the new short side shaft i cut it right behind the lip on the left is a stock yeti xl shaft uncut the long side gets cut off at the pin hole and filed down till it smooth and then the flats are ground down to fit in to the locker ive never snaped a yeti xl shaft so im hopeing this will hold up


ferp420 12-14-2016 09:39 AM

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It dose run and drive but it still needs alot if work i realy like the size of the axles after i mske some trusses and skids i think they will work out well and the size fits the body well hopefully i can get the welding done today and put it through its paces i think i need the tright size bearings before i do to much testing and i need to figure out were my gears are thats bugging me oh well im sure they will turn up

TacoCrawler 12-14-2016 10:55 AM

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did you know...

that your current tires looks kind've small ?

and that...

a 1/4 scale 35" tire would need be 8.75" tall ! ? :shock:

Of course that would likely mean having to
utilize a gear reduction unit in order to gear it low enough.

Gonna be a lot of effort and money to accomplish...
but I'd think you'd need to move up to 40's
in order to run taller tires.

Even if that chassis were actually 1:5 scale...
scale 35" tires would need be 7" tall :shock:

RC4WD is the best bet for obtaining larger 40 sized wheels and tires
that are more appropriately scaled for the larger scale rigs.

But the biggest issue when going large scale...
is that nobody supports those sizes much at all.
And so most components and accessories need be made.
Or sourced from china.

I think owning a plastic printer and knowing how to use it...
will be valuable and a near "must do" thing.

I'm thankful that I only went up to 1:6 scale...
and so there are some 1:6 scale action figures and accessories
that I can find.

But larger... is more involved then I'm willing to make an commitment to.

Looks like a good start 8)
and so good luck... with the direction yer heading into.


JMO but I think those axles look kinda small up under there.

Good news is that I thought I saw some bigger
1:5 - 1:4 scale axles sold on RC4WD
Outta china I'm sure... but maybe worth a 2nd look ?

Tho' the cost of admission isn't low budget.

The Ultimate Scale Yota 1/5 Axle Set (Black)


ferp420 12-14-2016 11:30 AM

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The tires are 40 series tirez there 7.5" tall and ive sead a few times the tires are to small but its what i had already i wish i could aford those rc4wd axles even the yeti xl metal axles with big spacers would work to but again out of my price range i will get tires some day its on the list i think the axles are a good size the will be beefer once the trusses are on i have been making every thing so far so aftermarket suport isent a issue i still have alot of room for gearing and can easyly mount 550 can motors if i need more torque im also gona need to run 2 servos on the front and get a good bec and shock mounts and upper link mounts and some bracing then build some kind of interior to fit it then it will be done maybe it may not be a true 1/4 scale but its bigger than a 1/5 scale its big a hair over 3ft long so what ever that works out to be

TacoCrawler 12-14-2016 01:07 PM

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dang... those are already 7.5" tall tires ? :shock:

They look small on yer chassis...
like what a 1.9 tire would look like on a Wraith. Lol

Guess yer 3' chassis needs 8.75" tires
to actually look substantial !? Lol

Two steering servos ? 4WS maybe ?
maybe run dual Savox SA-1230SG's if running 4WS.

Or are you comtemplating two servos on the forward axle ?

One servo might do if ya pony up for the Savox SB-2290SG
or something having at least that much torque to steer those big front tires.

Possibly you could increase your existing servo's output/strength ?

Not really scale looking... but could be fitted if one wanted.
Of course the gears would need be purchased separately.

Imagine if you had 1400 oz/in of steering torque !? :shock: :mrgreen:

ferp420 12-15-2016 11:26 AM

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It totaly looks like a 1.9 wraith with small tires lol im looking at the mudslingers and the rocklocks there both around 8.5" i realy want the swampers there 9.5ish. But at almost $200 for a set would take me 4months cuz i can only aford 1 tire at a time unless i can find them used its running a savox already the high torque high voltage modle i dont remeber the modle # of hand it was bearly adquite on maxstone and this chassie is alot heavyer so hence 2 servos th@t should give me around 1000in oz 1400 would be nice but i think 2 small servos buried in the truss will be fine and look good to

ferp420 12-17-2016 02:55 PM

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Found the gears and ordered the bearings

ferp420 01-05-2017 08:33 AM

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The new bearings are in LA in customs so I should have them soon I'm not having any luck finding tires I can afford it looks like I'll have to wait till after the hammers to get tires I am also having trouble finding the right size rod to Finnish the project I had a bunch left over but I think it disappeared on me it doesn't look like I'm gonna get to the interior any time soon but hopefully it will be up and running in time for the hammers I've only got 10 days before I have to head out Johnson valley and I still need to fix my 1:1 wheeler so I can get around out there its gonna be tight

ferp420 01-07-2017 08:24 PM

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I got the bearings in but there the wrong size the inside was a hair to small I'm bummed but that's what I get for guessing I ordered some fast eddies in the right size I'll have them right before I go to Johnson valley and hopefully I can get the welding finished I did install the metal gears in the rear while I had it apart there noisie but I expected that I'll grease them up real good next time I pull them apart

ferp420 01-15-2017 10:15 AM

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I got the right bearings installed and the gears in hopfully i can get the welding done today the bearings are 6x16x5 fast eddies there arent any bearing retainers though so ill see how it goes i did put a few drops of lock tight on the bearings i hope its enuff if not ill try super glue its not going to be a high speed rig so im guessing it will be just fine

the_law_man01 01-16-2017 07:43 PM

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I don't know if you have any, but, on the helicopter pinion gears, we use green Locktite.

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ferp420 01-17-2017 06:28 PM

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The lock tight didn't work so I made some bearing retainers for inside the axle as a bonus it reinforces the mounting holes for the axle tubes its beastly the tire are holding it back a lot no stick at all but it mobs through bolders and logs like I would expect it to next is tires and getting the alignment right now my biggest problem is snapping rod ends

ferp420 01-21-2017 02:44 PM

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I finally got this thing out in the trail and first run I striped the gears out on both front and rear axles I expected the $100 gears from integy would last longer than one run very disappointing I do have a full set of the plastic gears to put in till I find a solution but I'm really disappointed with the gears what junk not even a hole pack on the plus side I did get video a hole 5 min worth if that lol oh well next is building some kind of locker to bolt to the gear I guess any one have any ideas

TacoCrawler 01-21-2017 03:53 PM

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let's see the video ;-)

perhaps there is another reason for the gears failing prematurely...
besides just being subpar integy product ?

ferp420 01-21-2017 04:49 PM

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I'll upload it tonight before bed its gonna take forever to up load

the_law_man01 01-21-2017 05:58 PM

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No kidding! No video...didn't happen. HAHA

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ferp420 01-22-2017 06:10 AM

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I thought it was pics or it dident happen lol

ferp420 01-22-2017 06:13 AM

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What the gear should look like http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/...psg8wumli6.jpg

ferp420 01-22-2017 06:15 AM

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What it looks like now and my quick fix


ferp420 01-22-2017 06:19 AM

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I would expect the gear to at least outlast the plastic gears but i guess I'm expecting to much

ferp420 01-22-2017 10:56 AM

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The second part of the video finished up loading this is the part that striped the gears https://youtu.be/xvh9NYZSPn4

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