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Dogbreath · 03-28-2010, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voteban

I will definately be picking one of these up.

A few questions though... (I will still buy one regardless of the answers)

1. Do you think your car performs as well going back to a shorter wheelbase?
2. You were talking about different settings but I don't see any way to adjust this chassis.
3. Which lipo pack do you use? (your 7.2)

#1 On some obstacles the shorter wheelbase works best, on others a longer wheelbase rules....it just depends. I like both and have trucks set up both long and short. The performance comes more from the articulation, properly weighted wheels/tires, and driver control.....not from a few mm's of wheelbase

#2 Read the review again where I talk about the screw length and tightening down the ends of the arms.
Use the short screw and tighten it down on the end of the arm for less articulation.
Use the longer screw and allow the arm end to float for more articulation.

#3 I have several I use, some are 350's from HobbyCity, and I have some 240's from Aeronuts

mrtimbologna · 03-29-2010, 02:59 PM

They are available now at The Toyz for $14.99, I just ordered one. Saved an extra 10% by becoming a member since it was my first order from them (Probably should have ordered more to take advantage of the discount, oh well). With the discount it came to $15.50 shipped to my house. Thanks for the review DogBreath!

papasnachez · 03-29-2010, 03:21 PM

Thanks for the update. I have been checking.

Ditto on the new member discount. I signed up last night in anticipation.

Gvus · 03-29-2010, 03:35 PM

Just ordered mine... Now let's see how long it takes.

D-ran83 · 03-29-2010, 04:16 PM

Ordered mine today too!. So psyched for this thing to come in and see how it works..

I opted for priority, I want it fast..

mrtimbologna · 03-29-2010, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogbreath

A couple of additional notes:

#1 This chassis set-up is extremely light! I never thought to weigh the components over the last couple of days, but today we were running and got to wondering about why the chassis worked so much better than the stock chassis and weight came into the conversation so we did some comparisons.

DP Torsion Chassis 4g
Stock chassis with shocks, upper links and balls 20g

So with the DP chassis you are saving around 16g....over half an ounce! That is huge weight for the size of vehicle....and its all weight above the axle line, so the DP really lowers the COG!

The weight redistribution was the selling point for me. However, it appears that in DogB's test videos it isn't holding the rubber to the rock as well as the heavier chassis.... DogBreath, was the lighter chassis an issue with traction and did you have to compensate with more wheel weight?

Dogbreath · 03-29-2010, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtimbologna

The weight redistribution was the selling point for me. However, it appears that in DogB's test videos it isn't holding the rubber to the rock as well as the heavier chassis.... DogBreath, was the lighter chassis an issue with traction and did you have to compensate with more wheel weight?

My test truck did lose a lot of weight....kinda a crash diet, and no I did not compensate the tire/wheel weight. So yeah there are a couple of places where I had a bit of tire lift....but it wasn't bad....and on that note I will say that torque twist under power is all but eliminated by the chassis set-up.

I will go back now that I have a bit more time and weight everything specific for this chassis....I am sure that it will only get better, and I am already very impressed!

DANALLY · 03-29-2010, 08:33 PM

Just ordered mine and some spare parts...took advantage of the 10% off too. I can't wait to spend some time comparing it to my other two chassis.

Lorents · 03-30-2010, 12:43 AM

Avaliable on ebay too

http://cgi.ebay.com/Team-Losi-No-Sho...item5d288c48bb

losilover · 03-31-2010, 01:26 PM

i dont know if this was said or not but what tires are you using and where to get them?

Gizmo · 03-31-2010, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by losilover

i dont know if this was said or not but what tires are you using and where to get them?

Take a minute to read the thread and your question is already answered

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogbreath

The tires are the Urethane resin copies of the So-Real Boggers with the inner lugs cut out, they are solid. They look good but are expensive on eBay, will soon have a local supplier for these hopefully at a reduced price.

losilover · 03-31-2010, 01:53 PM

i found that about 30 seconds ago.

Gizmo · 03-31-2010, 03:06 PM

no worries just playin with ya

Jamus · 03-31-2010, 03:20 PM

I asked Dogbreath on another forum about a longer wheelbase version and he mentioned something about a 10mm longer one being made for him to test, or something along those lines, I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, my point in posting. That extra 10mm still won't net me the wheelbase I'd like so I had a thought. What if you used the torsion chassis as it's sold, but made the upper link mounting points farther towards the tranny, in conjunction with longer lower links. That way you could use the available chassis and get the longer wheelbase. I'm sure it would effect the springrate of the torsion, but not sure how much.

D-ran83 · 03-31-2010, 09:04 PM

Got mine in today

. Works "OK" I need to order some wheel weights, I have 1 ounce of lead stick on weights on the servo. I did notice a improvement, it is alot more smooth and predictable. Climbs better do to the lower cog. I actually lost flex tho...

I'm not sure if it's due to wheel weights or what. Also, the website says they are dyeable, well what dye? I tried to dye mine with rit tonight and that doesnt work.

Dogbreath · 03-31-2010, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-ran83

Got mine in today

. I actually lost flex tho...

I'm not sure if it's due to wheel weights or what.

Did you tighten the screws down tight at the ends or leave them part way out?

(The screws that attach the torsion bars to the servo or rear deck)

D-ran83 · 04-01-2010, 05:58 AM

Left them loose like you said for more..

Dogbreath · 04-01-2010, 06:18 AM

Yeah then it's probably a weight problem....get some more lead in the tires and it will help, I run mine pretty heavy.

As far as Dye for the Chassis use RIT, and yes it does work

D-ran83 · 04-01-2010, 07:26 AM

Thats the exact stuff I used, and it just beaded off of it, it's kinda crap brown now instead of black. I used half the bottle in a 16 oz cup filled the rest with hot water and let it sit for about 3 hrs, just beaded right off of it.

Jamus · 04-01-2010, 08:44 AM

Not sure if it makes a difference but I've always kept the dye at a boil on the stove when using RIT. Maybe it wasn't hot enough?

03-29-2010, 02:59 PM	#42
mrtimbologna Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Greenville Posts: 30	They are available now at The Toyz for $14.99, I just ordered one. Saved an extra 10% by becoming a member since it was my first order from them (Probably should have ordered more to take advantage of the discount, oh well). With the discount it came to $15.50 shipped to my house. Thanks for the review DogBreath! Last edited by mrtimbologna; 03-29-2010 at 03:24 PM.

03-31-2010, 09:04 PM	#55
D-ran83 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rockaway Posts: 285	Got mine in today. Works "OK" I need to order some wheel weights, I have 1 ounce of lead stick on weights on the servo. I did notice a improvement, it is alot more smooth and predictable. Climbs better do to the lower cog. I actually lost flex tho... I'm not sure if it's due to wheel weights or what. Also, the website says they are dyeable, well what dye? I tried to dye mine with rit tonight and that doesnt work.

03-29-2010, 03:21 PM	#43
papasnachez Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: college station Posts: 119	Thanks for the update. I have been checking. Ditto on the new member discount. I signed up last night in anticipation.

03-29-2010, 03:35 PM	#44
Gvus Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Anchorage Posts: 142	Just ordered mine... Now let's see how long it takes.

03-29-2010, 04:16 PM	#45
D-ran83 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rockaway Posts: 285	Ordered mine today too!. So psyched for this thing to come in and see how it works.. I opted for priority, I want it fast..

03-29-2010, 08:33 PM	#48
DANALLY RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: MESA Posts: 1,389	Just ordered mine and some spare parts...took advantage of the 10% off too. I can't wait to spend some time comparing it to my other two chassis.

03-30-2010, 12:43 AM	#49
Lorents Rock Stacker Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Norway Posts: 98	Avaliable on ebay too http://cgi.ebay.com/Team-Losi-No-Sho...item5d288c48bb

03-31-2010, 01:26 PM	#50
losilover Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Floyds Knobs, IN Posts: 286	i dont know if this was said or not but what tires are you using and where to get them?

03-31-2010, 01:53 PM	#52
losilover Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Floyds Knobs, IN Posts: 286	i found that about 30 seconds ago.

03-31-2010, 03:06 PM	#53
Gizmo Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas Posts: 244	no worries just playin with ya

03-31-2010, 03:20 PM	#54
Jamus RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Naoma, WV Posts: 1,479	I asked Dogbreath on another forum about a longer wheelbase version and he mentioned something about a 10mm longer one being made for him to test, or something along those lines, I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, my point in posting. That extra 10mm still won't net me the wheelbase I'd like so I had a thought. What if you used the torsion chassis as it's sold, but made the upper link mounting points farther towards the tranny, in conjunction with longer lower links. That way you could use the available chassis and get the longer wheelbase. I'm sure it would effect the springrate of the torsion, but not sure how much.

04-01-2010, 05:58 AM	#57
D-ran83 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rockaway Posts: 285	Left them loose like you said for more..

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04-01-2010, 06:18 AM	#58
Dogbreath Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sandy Oregon Posts: 517	Yeah then it's probably a weight problem....get some more lead in the tires and it will help, I run mine pretty heavy. As far as Dye for the Chassis use RIT, and yes it does work

04-01-2010, 07:26 AM	#59
D-ran83 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rockaway Posts: 285	Thats the exact stuff I used, and it just beaded off of it, it's kinda crap brown now instead of black. I used half the bottle in a 16 oz cup filled the rest with hot water and let it sit for about 3 hrs, just beaded right off of it.

04-01-2010, 08:44 AM	#60
Jamus RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Naoma, WV Posts: 1,479	Not sure if it makes a difference but I've always kept the dye at a boil on the stove when using RIT. Maybe it wasn't hot enough?

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