Crawler Mafia Black Market mini comp motor

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Well maybe I'll explain it sooner,I'm stuck at home fo a while


Lets start of with the cons when compared to the contraband
I will list in no particulare order

1.motor pinion is pressed on intead of grub screw,I dremmeled my personal motors for a grub cuz I feel its best.But the contraband already has a flat for the grub.

2.motors do not start as unwound teardowns,they are machine wound reedy 19t mini mods.They are then unwound,comm tabs checked and then rewound and given the criminal treatment same as a contraband would.The contraband starts life in teardown form,so no nead to unwind.

3.Brush shunts are smaller than that of contraband

4.This motor has no wins under its belt.The contraband has numerouse wins,and probably more top 5 finishes than any other mini this season.(though there has been no competition till recently)


Now to the pro's

1.lighter,this motor is lighter than a contraband,while still putting down
equal speed and more torque.

2.The brush is larger,not by much,but still it has a larger diam.This means more contact surface with the hood,and the comm and thats a good thing.

3.You can get one,contrabands are gone

Look,basically the contraband was a little bad ass and has dominated the scene recently.The blackmarket is the new kid in the block still,and has no wins under its belt.But the blackmarket has what it takes to dominate aswell.Its simply just a matter of time till its killing the competiton and
helping drivers get to the podium.

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This is how a blackmarket arm starts its life,a visable pos machine wound motor
(NEW) nothing used.I was shocked 1st time I open one up,the arm is almost blank and thats a 19t!



It is then (intitiated) into the CrawlerMafia family,and becomes one mean mtha fcka
Arm is loaded at 17t,now thats what a arm should look like

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stock arm is not soldered,look at how thin that wire is


My arms are always soldered (with the good stuff)

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I have been trying to get a pic that wil show the difference between the brushes,but cant get one to turn out.Basically its like a comparing a p94
to a standard brush.Its not much bigger,but every little bit helps.

The blackmarket brushes are just large enough they will not go into a contraband hood.

[chad30w]

Any of these available before the nats paul might be time for a new mini monster motor for the dub

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Originally Posted by chad30w

Any of these available before the nats paul might be time for a new mini monster motor for the dub

Yep

BlackMarket/ in time 4 nationals

I wasnt planning on it,but you guys take car of me,I'll take care of you.

[chad30w]

You coming to the nats paul???

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Originally Posted by chad30w

You coming to the nats paul???

Nope,I figured I'd back off and give you a chance

I'll be in yellowstone national park where its nice and coolTaking the family there instead,spending 4 days in the park.Then seeing alot of country on the way there and back also.

[team3six]

Paul, How much for a 17T?

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Originally Posted by team3six

Paul, How much for a 17T?

Cant discuse price here since this isnt the vendor section,I'll send you a pm though

[ram_tough]

Any of these available now? Looking to change things up a bit on my mini

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yep,I'll throw ya a pm

[ram_tough]

Mine came today, can't wait to try it out. Do I need to break in the motor, or prep anything else before I install in my rig?

[tj on 37s]

Originally Posted by ram_tough

Mine came today, can't wait to try it out. Do I need to break in the motor, or prep anything else before I install in my rig?

X2 and can you send me a quote on a 17t. Do you recommend these motors for a around the house crawler. I saw in the other thread that they are comp motors. so does that mean better performance, less life? What do you think would go better with this motor a Mamba micro pro or Sidewinder micro?

Thanks

[TedBull]

Originally Posted by tj on 37s

X2 and can you send me a quote on a 17t. Do you recommend these motors for a around the house crawler. I saw in the other thread that they are comp motors. so does that mean better performance, less life? What do you think would go better with this motor a Mamba micro pro or Sidewinder micro?



Thanks

Not to speak for paul but just from my own experiance. I have three of pauls motors, They are the best 1.9 motors you can buy IMHO. Full blown comp motor for sure. As for motor life- I took apart my year old contraband comp motor with many, many battery packs thru it and lots of comps and..... Almost no wear at all, the brushes showed only slight normal wear (I couldnt belive it). Will go another year I am sure before I even look at it. It might be overkill for just running around your house but if you want the best then these are it. Smooth down low, with very good wheel speed. Runs cool with 12T pinion. And if you end up comping with your crawler later then you are set.

My first comp with my blackmarket motor I took second place out of 14 skilled drivers, 5 points behind first.

As for ESC, I couldnt tell you between the two. I run a FXR, it works good.

[tj on 37s]

thanks for the imput tedbull! do you run yours on 2s or 3s. i am wanting to run 3s for the wheel speed!

[TedBull]

Originally Posted by tj on 37s

thanks for the imput tedbull! do you run yours on 2s or 3s. i am wanting to run 3s for the wheel speed!

I run mine on 2S. Most guys who run 1.9 run 2S. Honestly these motors have plenty of wheel speed on 2S. Running on 3S might make the motor run hot. And, you will probably break running gear often.

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Thanks ted


ram,you have a pm

tj.....its really not a good choice for around the house,these are now very,very limited.And they are born to comp and best if they find thier way into comp trucks.

[derekmrc]

Hey I want one of these Paul what do I have to do to get one? Thanks Derek

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motors are gone,except a couple I'm holding on to just in case for myself and close friends.

It will likely be 2-3 months before I have anything