Hot Racing Issues

[kooter]

So I decided to upgrade a few parts on my MRC and have run into some issues. First of all, I decided to try the HR rear lockout kit. The HR has a two piece lockout. My problem is that the inner piece of the lockout is machined for the bearing on the wheel side of the lockout, not the differential side thus there isn't anything to keep the axle from skidding out about 1/2 inches. Anyone have this issue?

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I would expect the inner bearing to be machined in here but it's not.



My second problem is with their aluminum transmission gear set. I can see no possible way for the outputs to attach to the gear. I can't be the only one who has had these issues.

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Crawlapalooza is two weeks away so I need to get this resolved ASAP. Thanks!

[LurpeBE]

I know what your problem is with the transmission, the plastic gear uses a center diff lock. The metal one doesn't use the lockers. Just put the output shafts on the metal one like you would instal them on your lockers of The plastic one. Hope this clears some things up. ;)

[Illeagle]

ya on the HR tranny gear your output shafts just fit right into the center of the gear. You dont use the old locker assy anymore.

[kooter]

Now I feel dumb but I would have never thought of pulling the plastic off the old outputs. I'll try it when I get home tonight. I do however need to figure out this lockout issue. I'll try to email HR as well.

Thanks!

[rock hard]

thats not a lockout,that what the lockout attaches too.

so the axle shaft should stick out like that

[kooter]

But what is supposed to hold the axle in?

[kooter]

By the way, I can put 4 bearings back to back between the inner part and out part of the lockout and there still is 1/4 of slop in the shaft.

[JeremyH]

Originally Posted by kooter

I'll try to email HR as well.

HAHAHAHA! Good luck with that....

[kooter]

Originally Posted by JeremyH

HAHAHAHA! Good luck with that....

Yep, thats pretty much what I thought but its worth a shot, a very very LONG shot.

[rock hard]

I'm about to bail,but I will post a pic late tonight for ya showing everything.

[kooter]

Originally Posted by rock hard

I'm about to bail,but I will post a pic late tonight for ya showing everything.

Thank you.

[rock hard]

the one on the right,is the same as you have pictures....thats not the lockout.
The one on the left is.The lip on the axle will rest against the beaing of the little piece,and will not slide past.once assmebled it will be fixed into place and good to go.

[kooter]

Originally Posted by rock hard

the one on the right,is the same as you have pictures....thats not the lockout.
The one on the left is.The lip on the axle will rest against the beaing of the little piece,and will not slide past.once assmebled it will be fixed into place and good to go.

Does your bearing press in from the wheel side of that inner piece or the axle side?

[rock hard]

Originally Posted by kooter

Does your bearing press in from the wheel side of that inner piece or the axle side?

On the small piece,the bearing is on the outer.

[kooter]

Originally Posted by rock hard

On the small piece,the bearing is on the outer.

Ok, thats the same as mine but when I assemble the whole lockout and collar, I can easily pull the axle out. The only way I can see this having a shot at working is by putting superglue on the bearing to keep it in place. No response from Liquid RC or HR yet and I doubt I will hear from them unless I file a dispute with PayPal.

[98sahara]

You are finding out The hard way why most of us don't use hr parts they are cheaply made and not very good the only hr part I would ever use and like it is the tranny gears

[kooter]

Originally Posted by 98sahara

You are finding out The hard way why most of us don't use hr parts they are cheaply made and not very good the only hr part I would ever use and like it is the tranny gears

I couldn't agree with you more. I guess I didn't do enough research even though I didn't find any problems with their stuff on here. Hopefully this thread will aid others in making their decisions to not buy these from HR.

Thank you all for the help.

[rock hard]

Originally Posted by kooter

Ok, thats the same as mine but when I assemble the whole lockout and collar, I can easily pull the axle out. The only way I can see this having a shot at working is by putting superglue on the bearing to keep it in place. No response from Liquid RC or HR yet and I doubt I will hear from them unless I file a dispute with PayPal.

Cant pull the axle all the way out.
The axle has a lip,that lip will not allow the axle to slide out.

That lip will hit the bearing that is inside the small collar.
The remaining length of axle will be covered by the actual lockout.


I have no problem with hr pruducts,I have ran their alum lockers,gears,collars,knuckles on many trucks....no problem.

[rock hard]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...J/b5aa1100.jpg


in this image,the lip should be resting on the bearing,if you put the lockout on,and bolt em both onto the axle,your set.The axle pin hole will be just outside end of lockout.

[kooter]

Originally Posted by rock hard

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...J/b5aa1100.jpg


in this image,the lip should be resting on the bearing,if you put the lockout on,and bolt em both onto the axle,your set.The axle pin hole will be just outside end of lockout.

I completely understand what you are saying. When I do that the lip does rest against the bearing. However since the bearing is on the outside(wheel side) of that inner collar, I can pull that bearing along with the shaft outward far enough to where the shaft no longer engages the locker. I understand how it is supposed to work but unless that bearing is installed on the inner side of the inner collar, this lockout will never work.

I appreciate your help though. Thank you.