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Ditchrat 10-06-2018 08:57 AM

Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
So it seems mud trucks are all the rage. We live in the mountains so there are pretty useless here, but we spend a month in Florida and see them all over. My boy wants to build one. I'm pretty clueless about what they are even supposed to do, other then thrash around in mud.


We have no direction, budget or deadline. Not that I am going to spend a fortune on it, just that we may put a few bucks in it every paycheck.


So wtf am I looking at/for.

MasteroFlego 10-06-2018 01:15 PM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
I would start with a trx4 sport or an smt10, get mud truck tires from Jconcepts, throw a brushless system in it (it's not really meant to crawl, and sensors are just another thing to fail, so I would use a sensorless system), get a good servo, and for an smt10 you'd be done, but for the trx4 of add the long travel kit.

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jokersinsanity 10-06-2018 01:50 PM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
Add those side rail plate to the scx10 chassis and add some wraith axles maybe...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...eaf7f4a7a8.jpg

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Steve g 10-06-2018 03:53 PM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MasteroFlego (Post 5874019)
I would start with a trx4 sport or an smt10, get mud truck tires from Jconcepts, throw a brushless system in it (it's not really meant to crawl, and sensors are just another thing to fail, so I would use a sensorless system), get a good servo, and for an smt10 you'd be done, but for the trx4 of add the long travel kit.

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This. Great answer. The trx has portals so better clearance, while the smt10 is wider, which is more stable.

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Exiwolfman 10-06-2018 04:10 PM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
My trx4 with lift kit and 5.8 inch tires and it makes a good mud truck, it's actually a Bronco under so has two speed and spools so extra wheel spin just go into higher gear. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ce09b890f3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4acfa52159.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...bae075f7e6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0ef5f989b6.jpg

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MasteroFlego 10-06-2018 05:38 PM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exiwolfman (Post 5874041)
My trx4 with lift kit and 5.8 inch tires and it makes a good mud truck, it's actually a Bronco under so has two speed and spools so extra wheel spin just go into higher gear. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ce09b890f3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4acfa52159.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...bae075f7e6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0ef5f989b6.jpg

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For whatever reason the sport body looks better on big tires and a lift kit. Looks pretty cool, have you tried Jconcepts fling king tires yet? I think they'd look even better.

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Ditchrat 10-06-2018 06:04 PM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
So that's it huh.


Well that's pretty basic, we can do that.
Looks like we have a starting point thanks.
great pointer on the brushless, that will reduce the cost. What kv we talking on 3s. I am guessing lots of wheel speed and over heating isn't an issue because you aren't running for long periods.

Exiwolfman 10-06-2018 06:28 PM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ditchrat (Post 5874058)
So that's it huh.


Well that's pretty basic, we can do that.
Looks like we have a starting point thanks.
great pointer on the brushless, that will reduce the cost. What kv we talking on 3s. I am guessing lots of wheel speed and over heating isn't an issue because you aren't running for long periods.

Mamba X sensored with 3800kv on 3s and its crazy [emoji2957] on my trx I had to gear it down but as a mud truck that combo will make mud fly.

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MasteroFlego 10-06-2018 06:50 PM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
Of you do go sensored, use dielectric grease in the sensor connections.

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jokersinsanity 10-06-2018 07:21 PM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
Lmao i ran 3800kv slate with the mamba x on 3s geared 80/20 in an scx10 for a while lmao it was a beast throw quite the rooster tails with my fenderless jeep body

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goobs 10-08-2018 08:33 AM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
i suggest the traxxas velineon system. they're cheap, reliable, and i can attest to 100% wp capabilities and can be ran under water.

its what i use on my mud truck with 3s and its plenty.

MasteroFlego 10-08-2018 11:40 AM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goobs (Post 5874382)
i suggest the traxxas velineon system. they're cheap, reliable, and i can attest to 100% wp capabilities and can be ran under water.

its what i use on my mud truck with 3s and its plenty.

The 2 pole or 4 pole version?

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soze 10-08-2018 12:16 PM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ditchrat (Post 5873970)
I'm pretty clueless about what they are even supposed to do, other then thrash around in mud.


This has been me trying to understand if they had any other purpose than that as well. LOL

goobs 10-08-2018 12:25 PM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MasteroFlego (Post 5874446)
The 2 pole or 4 pole version?

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i have both versions, either will work just fine.

Ditchrat 10-08-2018 12:31 PM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soze (Post 5874456)
This has been me trying to understand if they had any other purpose than that as well. LOL




I'm thinking maybe something with big lift, mud tires that could also be something the boy can bomb around the creek with.


From the info these guys gave me, some pm'ing and reading it looks like I am going to get a plate chassis marry it to a scx10 frame, insert a cheap brushless system(found a 120amp WP esc and 4 poll motor for $30.00), slap a hardend steel tranny, driveshafts, gears, ect on it. Those big old jconcept tractor tires.


As for axles I am thinking wraith will be better because they are wider.


It is going to be a glorious failure, or something the kid can beat on and get dirty in the swamp behind my house.


No matter what it is going to be muddy throwing good time, and I am going to sit back drink a beer and laugh my ars off.


I'll buy the parts, the kid and break them and put new ones on, its going to be a great winter project for the two of us.

JatoTheRipper 10-08-2018 12:36 PM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
They're pretty much monster trucks with skinny tires. The height gives you ground clearance and the skinny tires cut through the mud to get down to the compacted mud or dirt to get maximum traction.

They're too specialized for me to worry about, but they might also work well in snow that's only a couple of inches deep.

Anyway, if I were going to build one I'd probably use an Axial SMT10 and JConcepts products to make a scale version of King Sling.

JConcepts New Release – King Sling Mega Truck Body – JConcepts Blog

http://blog.jconcepts.net/wp-content...4392217863.jpg

RC Sling King in action:

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The real King Sling is impressive as hell!

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soze 10-08-2018 12:46 PM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper (Post 5874468)
They're pretty much monster trucks with skinny tires. The height gives you ground clearance and the skinny tires cut through the mud to get down to the compacted mud or dirt to get maximum traction.

They're too specialized for me to worry about, but they might also work well in snow that's only a couple of inches deep.

Anyway, if I were going to build one I'd probably use an Axial SMT10 and JConcepts products to make a scale version of King Sling.

I really have no use for one... There's no mud here in the southern left coast.

If I were to build one I'd do it with my SMT10.. I kind of like the JConcept Bog Hog body... would use the same JConcepts wheels and tires as well.

durok 10-08-2018 05:47 PM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
Gotta post up a pic of the Bog Hog - would look fantastic in military green with USMC or US Army logos stenciled on it in black or yellow:

https://www.rccaraction.com/wp-conte...-1-640x300.jpg

goobs 10-09-2018 08:01 AM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
Also, if it will stay muddy, nasty, in water, etc. i suggest using bronze bushings where you can.
itll help from you having to disassemble after every muddy use.
also, use a good marine grease. i use penzoil green stuff and it works awesome!

JatoTheRipper 10-23-2018 01:37 PM

Re: Talk to me about a mudtruck
 
Here's an interesting and inexpensive take on a Mega Truck from JConcepts based on a Traxxas Stampede.

Mega Truckin’ Your Traxxas Stampede – JConcepts Blog


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