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Jay-Em 12-18-2019 04:31 PM

Re: Smt10 discontinued
 
Yup, indeed it does.

Let’s hope they fixed the majority of the SMT10’s flaws. Still seeing plastic links, though. Not hopeful in that aspect.
Would be seriously nice if they -at the least- gave us steel gearbox innards.

Orr.. they have now incorporated the gearbox of the Capra. I quite like the design of that.

Could also be a somewhat smaller Monstertruck, like the CEN, on the basis of the Capra, though. Would look more scale with the stock SMT10 tires, to boot.

It’s the first time in a looong time, an Axial teaser àctually piqued my intrest..

FormallySkullking 12-19-2019 05:54 AM

Re: Smt10 discontinued
 
Pass.....and not surprised....https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...eecab7799b.jpg

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johnnyluv 12-19-2019 12:36 PM

Re: Smt10 discontinued
 
Selfishly, I'm glad they didn't totally re-invent the platform, with super nice axles or something, because, if I choose to ever sell my still unbuilt SMT10 GD pre-roller, now it won't be viewed as outdated.

Jim85IROC 12-19-2019 01:12 PM

Re: Smt10 discontinued
 
I think that the addition of metal trans gears and the more appropriate pricing will make this a popular truck. I'm personally very happy to see a kit version. I think the make/break deal for me will be whether it's got the better plastics or if it's still using that playdough crap that it used to have.

mdfjhm92 12-19-2019 01:37 PM

Re: Smt10 discontinued
 
Looks to also have better electronics as well

BJoe 12-19-2019 08:53 PM

Re: Smt10 discontinued
 
Hmmmmmm, may have to look at the kit some time this year!

Jay-Em 12-20-2019 03:51 PM

Re: Smt10 discontinued
 
Alll metal gearbox innards are the saving grace here. And $200.- for the builders’ kit, isn’t too bad.
The rest? Somewhat ‘mêh’... It would probably still need milled steel gears for the axles, since using bigger, Clod-style wheels, combined with BL power, tends to strip them quite quickly for many people.

Afa the RTR goes, the addition of a big 12t 550 is rather nice. Combined with 32p metal gears, it looks like a sturdy combo. Far better than the plastic gears and anemic 540 of the first iteration. ( it looks like they gave the CEN Annihilator a good look-over and borrowed some ideas for the powerplant. Though the CEN uses a 15t 550, not a 12t. Performance between the two should be close, I’d think.)

Prolly gonna get that builders’ kit. If only for the black cage and steel gears.


Pricing of the RTR seems to be squarely aimed at competing with CEN and Traxxas. I really hope for Axial it will finally take-off well with their monster trucks. Just ditch the expensive licensing, and go wild. Wouldn’t mind a fantasy MT body in RTR Wraith-livery, or something.. Call it The Super Wraith .. ( wink to Tamiya’s Super-Clodbuster... :razz: )

All in all, the pricing and offered stock extra’s are a very good deal imho. Be it that the rest is a tad lacklustre, especially because it looks like it still uses the same plastic as before for the arms. But, then again, offering f.i. 8 x those aluminium braces for the repurposed Yeti arms, would prolly’ make the price too high.

FormallySkullking 12-20-2019 04:37 PM

Re: Smt10 discontinued
 
The most important thing to me would be the plastics, I'm curious on the new strength. Everything else was already available

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Jay-Em 12-21-2019 04:43 AM

Re: Smt10 discontinued
 
Indeed. The plastics of the swing arms were especially floppy-bendy. Something that plagued the RTR Yeti even more. The rest of the plastics were fine for what it was. Even the drive shafts have kept-up without going all spiral-macaroni.. Then again, a 3000kv 3655 4-pole @ 2s isn’t exactly “overpowering”
I replaced the swingarms with 1€ for a meter alll thread through 3€ a meter aluminium tubes the moment I got the SMT10GD. Plenty of proper ball-ends and stuff left-over from earlier Axial kits to make that an easy and cheap switch. (by the by, I love that, the gazillion of spares and odds-and-ends in Axial kits)

Haven’t broken anything since.

LimPSHoT 12-22-2019 02:44 PM

Re: Smt10 discontinued
 
I usually would want to go with the kit build, but i like the RTR green cage and body so i am leaning on going with the RTR.

JustinL7294 01-16-2020 07:31 AM

Re: Smt10 discontinued
 
The moment I saw they were available for pre order and jumped right on it. Got mine in last week. Now we’re to start upgrading. Was looking at the jconcepts tribute/firestorm wheels and tires. They seem kinda too wide to be on the realistic side but everyone seems to be running that size. Speed out of the box on 2s was faster then I was expecting, especially for my son.


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svt923 01-16-2020 07:47 AM

Re: Smt10 discontinued
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JustinL7294 (Post 5991057)
The moment I saw they were available for pre order and jumped right on it. Got mine in last week. Now we’re to start upgrading. Was looking at the jconcepts tribute/firestorm wheels and tires. They seem kinda too wide to be on the realistic side but everyone seems to be running that size. Speed out of the box on 2s was faster then I was expecting, especially for my son.

The Firestorms are cool but I think they are too big for the SMT10. I have a set on another AR60 based monster truck and the size is rough on the axles and steering. The Jconcepts Rangers on the Midwest wheels are going to be the way I go for the SMT10 when my kit gets delivered.

JustinL7294 01-16-2020 07:13 PM

Re: Smt10 discontinued
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by svt923 (Post 5991060)
The Firestorms are cool but I think they are too big for the SMT10. I have a set on another AR60 based monster truck and the size is rough on the axles and steering. The Jconcepts Rangers on the Midwest wheels are going to be the way I go for the SMT10 when my kit gets delivered.



Those look great for a older type monster truck build but seem to small for a current generation. Really perfect size would be bigger then the stock size but smaller then the clod size wheels and tires. I find it odd that axial would release a builders kit with stock wheels when there is only 1 maybe 2 tires that are available.


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FormallySkullking 01-16-2020 07:23 PM

Re: Smt10 discontinued
 
They only re released this for the quick buck. They didnt listen to any of us. A builders kit was a no brainer. I sold all mine. They need too many upgrades. No more axial for me.

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mprudic0404 02-02-2020 10:39 PM

Re: Smt10 discontinued
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay-Em (Post 5984984)
Alll metal gearbox innards are the saving grace here. And $200.- for the builders’ kit, isn’t too bad.
The rest? Somewhat ‘mêh’... It would probably still need milled steel gears for the axles, since using bigger, Clod-style wheels, combined with BL power, tends to strip them quite quickly for many people.

Afa the RTR goes, the addition of a big 12t 550 is rather nice. Combined with 32p metal gears, it looks like a sturdy combo. Far better than the plastic gears and anemic 540 of the first iteration. ( it looks like they gave the CEN Annihilator a good look-over and borrowed some ideas for the powerplant. Though the CEN uses a 15t 550, not a 12t. Performance between the two should be close, I’d think.)

Prolly gonna get that builders’ kit. If only for the black cage and steel gears.


Pricing of the RTR seems to be squarely aimed at competing with CEN and Traxxas. I really hope for Axial it will finally take-off well with their monster trucks. Just ditch the expensive licensing, and go wild. Wouldn’t mind a fantasy MT body in RTR Wraith-livery, or something.. Call it The Super Wraith .. ( wink to Tamiya’s Super-Clodbuster... :razz: )

All in all, the pricing and offered stock extra’s are a very good deal imho. Be it that the rest is a tad lacklustre, especially because it looks like it still uses the same plastic as before for the arms. But, then again, offering f.i. 8 x those aluminium braces for the repurposed Yeti arms, would prolly’ make the price too high.

I have a few MARK1's, and my friend recently picked up a custom build smt10 roller with full race chassis. The one he got must have AR60's from the new molds. It has a few tiny changes compared to the orginal stock housing. (Not noticible)
Only my top chassis is stock, so can't compare to revisions, and I only noticed a few little modeling changes on AR60'S when I rebuilt my sons. It seems positive axial brought it back, even if short lived.
The fact that losi is now the big parent making changes scares me,but... (Yes I am sour over losi killing the micro T) at least losi seems to have learned from the past, because they brought back the MINI-T (and I even ordered 5 sets of steel trans gears for my mark1- yes they fit) so all in all, perhaps losi will apply changes needed to keep solid axel ALIVE. Is the stock plastic weak, yes&no, but for my 5 and 6 year old, (both run 15t brushed) it helps to bend and give for the new learners abuse.
(Why axial doesn't swith to a aluminum/composite AR60^s is beyond me. Cost wise is minumal and if done right, can make waves. (Links on the smt10 are supposed to break in efforts to save other failures.)
I broke 3 steel AR60's housings when I had full metal links. Now I'm back to stainless with M4Ends.
(Odd ball setup here -9500kv 540 motor, geared to pull stumps)

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