ECX Barrage Double Motor Tranny
 

I had a double whammy tranny laying around and decided to put it in the little Barrage. I like full control when crawling and this is always the easiest route.

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What ESC are you using? I can’t see
And where did you said you got from this tranny?

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The ESC is Tekin B1-R. I think I got the tranny on ebay.

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Dont google double whammy tranny and expect to get anything besides porn. Ive been looking for 10minutes and havent found anything that small yet lol.

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Dual / Twin Motor Mount Kit -- RC4WD 1/18 G2 D90 Body - Club 5 Racing

Not sure if this is the exact same as he’s using but I’ve got this one and it’s good.

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Hahahaha! That's not what I intended. lol:lmao:

There have been several people using a twin N20 geared motor setup in the RC4WD D90. I have seen 3D printed ones too. This one is aluminum and is really nice. This motor/ESC setup in not cheap but it is the ultimate in technical crawling control.

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Yep, thats the one!

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Is it possible to run this on the stock esc?

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Absolutely!

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Awesome. This looks like the best way to go that I’ve seen yet. Thanks for your time!

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I ve got a doble tranny in my gelande 1/18 and it’s fantastic.
The new transmission that rc4wd just began to sell I think that will fit in the barrage and it’s very cheap http://store.rc4wd.com/R5-118-Mini-T...V2_p_5805.html

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That one fits between the rails but it will need some fabrication to make it work. The challenge is that the stock suspension link locations are on the skid plate, and the skid plate is in the way of the new RC4WD tranny. I thought about trying to make it work on mine but the twin motor setup is just way easier.

You can find cheaper dual motor boxes than the one I used. There are 3D printed one's out there and the N20 geared motors are dirt cheap. You could even make your own out of simple plates.

It just depends on your modelling skills and desire to tinker.

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I don’t mind tinkering. I’m a machinist and also do 3d printing. Cost vs. effort and time make the best option to just pay and go on sometimes though.

The sumo transmission swap seems ok too but finding what I need hasn’t been easy. Well I haven’t seen anything on ebay or amazon anyway.

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You are my hero! :)

If youre a machinest and like to tinker, you might want to make a transmission like I did on the "Original" D90 I built long before there was such a thing as RC4WD D90. http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/micro...nder-90-a.html

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Well crap. Now I’m going to feel guilty for taking the lazy way out lol! That’s an awesome build man!

I might just order some reduction motors on amazon and print the plates/box to hold them. Cheap is important because my 11 also has a barrage. I bought mine so I could be a guinea pig for our trucks. We are newbs to crawling.

I appreciate your help. I’ll probably send a pm with some other random questions if that’s ok.

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Any up date on this?

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Yep. It's still awesome.

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Hows the servo holding up?

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The strongest part of the thing is the servo. ;-)

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I guess I did not mention on this thread that I'm using a Savox servo. Is that what you mean?

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yes got a link for servo?

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https://www.amainhobbies.com/savox-s...0263mg/p210502

Savox SH0263MG Micro Digital Servo

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What size/RPM motors is everyone using on these dual motor setups?

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The motors are N20 and have gear heads on them. 300 RPMs nice and controllable at crawl speeds.


Dual / Twin Motor Mount Kit -- RC4WD 1/18 G2 D90 Body - Club 5 Racing

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With this setup, has anyone tried running a 300rpm up front and a slower (maybe 200rpm) in the back for 1/24 overdrive/ underdrive?

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Dont take this the wrong way, my friend, but you dont seem to understand what four whel drive is. What you are suggesting is impossible.

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Those of you who have done this swap, did you just reuse the motor wire plug or did you buy a new one? I'd rather not cut the plug off the stock motor just in case I want to reuse this motor. If you bought a new plug, where did you get it? I can't seem to find one.

Thanks in advance.

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I always un-solder the wires off a motor for re-use. Never cut. Also you have to connect the two motors together by soldering anyway so soldering the stock motor wires back on is all part of the setup.

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I dont see this as impossible at all, each motor has its own gearbox (I assume).

Or are they connected?

Do you mind elaborating Shape Shifter?

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Let me clarify my above statement - These motors are direct drive, one motor goes to the front axle and the other motor goes to the rear axle. This replaces the stock transmission. What you are suggesting would require two separate transfer-cases, one for each motor.


These axles do not freewheel when connected to the motor gearhead via drveshft. So even if you disco one motor to go only 2 wheel drive, you would be draggin the other two locked tires.

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Is there a right way to take it? Then again, maybe I don’t understand 4wd. I assumed that with this tranny, the motor for each axle (each with it’s own motor-attached, dedicated gearbox) were independent from each other. Because it uses motors with reduction gears on them, I didn’t know if they shared a common gear within the transmission. If they do not, it would be plausible to run a higher RPM motor for the front axle which would make it spin faster than the rear axle. This is overdrive/ underdrive. I realize it would be full-time and not controllable.
I have done this on a 1/24 ECX build using a Barrage axle in the front, and a much slower 1/24 Temper axle (worm gear driven) in the rear. It does work, and it climbs obstacles well but the disparity is too great. It’s about a 6:1 ratio. I believe the common acceptable amount is 30%. Here is a picture of that build so you don’t accuse me of not understanding why it wouldn’t work.

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I still dont understand what Shape Shifter is trying to say regarding this not working. He's said they're both separate, one motor for the front one for the rear. It sounds to me like this would absolutely work. This would be just like an MOA setup in that it has separate motors for each axle.

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I apologize. Your low post count (at the time of your original question) made me think you were a noob. Ive never considered doing that in a micro so my brain did not even think of it in the context of that awesome green rig you built.


So, to respond to your original question, now knowing your modelling skills are above noob level :oops:, I can say that the little N20 gearmotors do come with several different ratios, though you would need to do some searching to see if they are withing your desired differential percentage.


Have you looked at the Orlandoo motors? They have two different ratio gearmotors for the 1/35 trucks. They will drop right in to this double tranny and may be close enough together ratio wise.


Again, I apologize for sounding like a dik..

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Haha, thank you! I have so many 1/24 projects going, I don’t know why I don’t post more. Those gearmotors are so cheap I ordered a bunch of different ones to experiment with. Thanks for the Orlandoo advice! I’ll definitely have to give that a shot too.
By the way, that chain-drive rig you built is one of the coolest builds I’ve seen. I love creativity like that.