1/24 HobbyPlus CR-24 & new 1/18th scale!!

[spoo76]

Soon. I'll probably post details in the Carisma MSA-1E thread.

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[PeeBrainz]

So good chance the cr24 trans will fit in the barrage?

[spoo76]

Originally Posted by PeeBrainz

So good chance the cr24 trans will fit in the barrage?

You'd probably want the skid plate too if you want it to be a bolt in..

Carisma showed up..... immediately disappointing lol...

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[calvin_ysl]

A nice video of this CR-24

https://youtu.be/_9X9kL1aABA

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[kennebell50]

Can anyone tell me how these compare to the Trail Trekker? It seemed like everyone thought the Trekker was all that but I never really liked mine that much.

[spoo76]

Originally Posted by calvin_ysl

A nice video of this CR-24

https://youtu.be/_9X9kL1aABA

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Welcome Calvin!

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[spoo76]

Originally Posted by kennebell50

Can anyone tell me how these compare to the Trail Trekker? It seemed like everyone thought the Trekker was all that but I never really liked mine that much.

The Trail Trekker was great, but not without faults and definitely not what I'd consider a scale crawler. The electronics were the best until the Proline Ambush, and the Worm gear axles, while not scale gave lots of gear reduction. Performance was one of the best out of the box.

The CR-24 Defender From Asia Tee's and the D1RC Jeep from AliExpress is more comparable to an 1/24 ECX Barrage/RGT Adventurer/FTX Outback. The same track width and wheelbase, same size wheels and tires,
Much better looking axle housings with the same style gears, shafts,and the same axle gear ratio. Even the link mounts are the same. The shocks and springs are even a little softer than the Barrage.

All of that compatibly is great IMO, but where the CR-24 & D1RC really shine is the transmission. It's very similar to the Barrage and keeps the motor low, however it has compound gears which give it lots more gear reduction which gives it more torque and much better low speed control.
I even like the transmitter better, which for me is saying alot about a RTR transmitter.
Then there's the sweet bead lock wheels that are super easy to take apart and rebuild, and the tires. They are the same size and same model of Falken tire as the Barrage, but it's more aggressive with bigger lugs.
IMO this is now the best value, best out of box performance RTR Micro/Mini and what the ECX Barrage could have been.
It outperforms the others while being the least expensive.
I've been showing pictures and recommending these on all the groups and definitely plan to add another to my stable.

I haven't had time to do my full review, breakdown, and video I promised. Until then here are a few size comparison pictures below. They are all just a few millimeters apart in size.

From left to right
Losi Micro Crawler (McRC)
Redcat Sumo
Proline Ambush
ECX Barrage Truggy
RGT Adventurer/FTX Outback
ECX Barrage UV
Hobby Plus CR-24/D1RC
RC4WD Mini Gelande


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[spoo76]

Seriously, for those curious or looking for an inexpensive crawler at this scale it's well worth the $. It's the best out of the box, the least expensive, and has as much potential for custom builds as the Barrage.
As long as they stick around and keep pushing these out while offering customer support and spare parts to purchase this will be the best bang for the buck.

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[kennebell50]

Thats great explanation. Thank you. Do you like the RC4WD the best? I have considered it as well.

[spoo76]

I like the CR-24 best overall and again it's the least expensive.

The RC4WD doesn't perform as well out of the box, but can easily be improved and while it's more than twice as expensive as the CR-24 its to be expected with a detailed hard body, full interior, a full metal chassis, links, axles, and wheels. If you want the ultimate scale looking RTR the RC4WD is it. If you want something that has a scale chassis, wheels, better performance, and is inexpensive the Hobby Plus is the one.

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[kennebell50]

Thanks. I think i will try one. I like Orlandoo but not a fan of working on them or building because they are so small. Driving it fun though.

[BashNSlash]

Trying to buy one on Asia tees and they only list almost ready to run (needs battery and charger). Where can I get the truly RTR version?

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[spoo76]

The battery and charger are the only difference. I've run my CR-24 on 1s & 2s.

AsiaTees has the CR-24 Defender ARTR that needs a Battery for $89
https://www.asiatees.com/display?Mis...d=154205&pid=1

AliExpress has the D1RC Jeep RTR with lipo for $93
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Chri...AbTest=ae803_3

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[BashNSlash]

Originally Posted by spoo76

CR-24 and D1RC

Are these the same trucks? I love the black body on the D1RC!

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[spoo76]

I mentioned it a few times earlier, but yes they are the same other than the body and the Jeep comes with a 1S lipo while the Defender does not.

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[BashNSlash]

Originally Posted by spoo76

I mentioned it a few times earlier, but yes they are the same other than the body and the Jeep comes with a 1S lipo while the Defender does not.

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Awesome. Thank you for clarifying. Unfortunately, it looks like Ali won't ship it to Canada

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[spoo76]

Originally Posted by BashNSlash

Awesome. Thank you for clarifying. Unfortunately, it looks like Ali won't ship it to Canada

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AsiaTees should ship to Canada. This gives you an excuse for a better charger and 2s lipo instead of 1s

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[BashNSlash]

I was finally able to order the D1RC from Aliexpress with shipping to Canada! So stoked about this!

Still worried about parts availability, which I hope is not going to be a problem down the road.

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[boldfin]

I just picked up a Hobby Plus CR-24 Defender from AsiaTees. We already have an ECX Barrage UV FPV so this seemed like a nice addition to our micro crawler fleet.

Knowing the CR-24 doesn't come with a battery, I ordered a couple Hobby Plus-branded 220 mAh NiMH's also from AsiaTees. That's the exact same battery the ECX Barrage uses, which if you've ever looked into replacements - you'll note they are wired up in reverse polarity compared to most batteries with a Micro-Losi (aka Molex R) connector. At least if you're from the micro-quad world, which I am. Perhaps the way these batteries is wired is "normal" in the surface RC world.

At any rate, I glanced at the wire colors before plugging in the 220 mAh NiMH to the CR-24, noting the battery leads coming off the CR-24's speed controller were red and white. That's always fun, but lacking a multimeter, I decided to take the plunge. That proved to be an almost major mistake.

Turns out the CR-24's speed controller is wired for the opposite polarity of the ECX Barrage. The wires heated up almost instantly, but no magic smoke was released. I was ready, and disconnected almost immediately. Fortunately, no damage appears to have been done. I plugged in a 1S 500 mAh LiPo battery that has micro-Losi connectors wired with the opposite polarity of the 220 NiMh, and the truck functions completely normally. I could have just gotten lucky, or maybe it will end up failing down the road.

I'd like to warn anyone else considering the purchase of a CR-24 to double-check the polarity of the batteries they are using. In the case of the CR-24, the red wire coming off the speed controller appears to be negative, and the white wire appears to be positive. Again, this is exactly the opposite of how the ECX Barrage is wired.

Aside from the polarity drama, this little rig definitely crawls much better than the ECX Barrage. The gearing is remarkably slower and throttle response is much more controllable. Whatever they did differently in the CR-24 is working.

I actually like having both types of micro rigs. The faster Barrage UV covers ground when we're out roaming around and suits FPV style driving a little better. I like the CR-24 for regular LOS driving and crawling over small obstacles where FPV just doesn't really work so well due to not being able to turn and look down to the side to see what you're crawling over.

So yeah, the CR-24 is pretty cool.

[spoo76]

I don't think I mentioned the reverse polarity here, but I've brought it up in the Facebook groups. The reverse polarity is more common among the 1s lipo crawlers like the RGT, supposedly popular with drones. It's definitely caught some people off guard, but none I've read have fried anything myself included.

I've already ordered and received my 2nd CR-24, I still say for the $ I prefer it to any of my Barrages/RGT or RC4WD Mini Gelande as far as out of the box performance. even my Carisma MSA-1E. Would take a back seat imo

For those looking to pick one up AliExpress has a sale on the D1RC "Ranger" version of the CR-24. Same truck, but it comes with a Jeep body and a 1s Lipo and charger for under $75! It's normally $93
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Chri...958417363.html

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