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TheSubaruJunkie 03-27-2019 01:34 PM

My WPL C14 & C24 Builds
 
Hey everybody. After learning about these C14 kits I had to get one for myself. I couldn't decide on which body style, the '81 or the '83 so I got them both. Figured I would build one and my son could help build the other, then we both have one to drive around :)

I detailed mine with a red & black two-tone job:
https://i.imgur.com/rZVO7y9.png

And my son went with white & blue:
https://i.imgur.com/qeKqnSE.png

https://i.imgur.com/rtyG6eR.png

I did a fair bit of detail on my interior, and my sons interior will soon follow:
https://i.imgur.com/LdZRl1U.png

https://i.imgur.com/iLnsDSM.png

I have slowly began to modify mine for better performance on the trail. I have added bags full of BB's under the hood & under the bed, each bag is 100 grams:
https://i.imgur.com/IyLbmvB.png

https://i.imgur.com/ev8p0xK.png

I have also added 3mm spacers to each rim to expand the track width by 6mm overall.
Here it is pictured side by side with my sons rig which is still stock:
https://i.imgur.com/cTQiyP1.png

https://i.imgur.com/4fNTeeD.png

I have also shaved some of the plastic away from the steering knuckle and the axle to increase the steering angle. Along with a basic metal link from the steering servo. It seems to perform really well.

Here is a video of it crawling through our rock garden:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihpa3cxALxY

I have a 2 speed transmission that still needs to be installed. As well as a couple idea's to modify the suspension for better articulation.

bolo79 03-28-2019 08:18 AM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
Nice builds.Is awesome you doing things with your boy."thumbsup"

kincer 03-28-2019 08:48 AM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
Nice builds, I have three of these little Yotas, two are done and one to go. If you want more flex with the stock shocks take out the springs and nip off the tight coils on one end, put springs back in with the cut end facing up. Unscrew the shock mount on the shock shaft til you see the first thread then remount back to chassis. Cutting the springs gives you more up travel and unscrewing the mount on the bottom gives you more down travel. The 2 spd is awesome, no need for drag brake in low gear so a Hobbywing 1625 esc is perfect for these and they'll run 3s. Stock kit servos are holding up well for me. Be sure to solder at least one capacitor on the 370 motor on the 2 spd or it will run glitchy. The cv style metal driveshafts are the best of the metal driveshafts. If you don't already have metal gears in diffs you'll need them at some point. You have the right idea for weight but it needs to be down low. The wheel weight kits they make for these work awesome and make a HUGE difference. I have about $98 in each including the trucks and they work really well now. Enjoy them with your boy they are really fun once dialed in.

TheSubaruJunkie 03-28-2019 07:51 PM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kincer (Post 5922851)
Nice builds, I have three of these little Yotas, two are done and one to go. If you want more flex with the stock shocks take out the springs and nip off the tight coils on one end, put springs back in with the cut end facing up. Unscrew the shock mount on the shock shaft til you see the first thread then remount back to chassis. Cutting the springs gives you more up travel and unscrewing the mount on the bottom gives you more down travel. The 2 spd is awesome, no need for drag brake in low gear so a Hobbywing 1625 esc is perfect for these and they'll run 3s. Stock kit servos are holding up well for me. Be sure to solder at least one capacitor on the 370 motor on the 2 spd or it will run glitchy. The cv style metal driveshafts are the best of the metal driveshafts. If you don't already have metal gears in diffs you'll need them at some point. You have the right idea for weight but it needs to be down low. The wheel weight kits they make for these work awesome and make a HUGE difference. I have about $98 in each including the trucks and they work really well now. Enjoy them with your boy they are really fun once dialed in.

Im already getting tire rub on full flex, so I'm not sure i want to cut the springs and drop the ride height any more than it already is. I am exploring the option of fabricating a cantilever suspension in the rear on my C14 to maximize flex, but as it is, the thing is performing really well. I am sure a basic shock relocation will give me the droop I am looking for.

I do have a set of the metal axle gears, just not sure which rig will get them first. I suppose whichever rig strips its gears first wins :) And I do have a set of the CV style drivelines. I will probably install those with my 2 speed trans shortly, but I have a couple other trucks that showed up this week and so I have some other projects in mind at the moment :)

https://i.imgur.com/lMYvNil.png

Intashu 03-28-2019 08:16 PM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
Ayy, in one day we find each other on reddit, thingiverse, and now Rccrawler!

TheSubaruJunkie 03-28-2019 09:09 PM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Intashu (Post 5923108)
Ayy, in one day we find each other on reddit, thingiverse, and now Rccrawler!

Are you following me!??!

:mrgreen:

Intashu 03-29-2019 08:19 AM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSubaruJunkie (Post 5923119)
Are you following me!??!

:mrgreen:

Similar interests lead to similar places it seems! :lmao: I was going to say I was here first.. but you joined 2 years before me apparently!

TheSubaruJunkie 03-29-2019 08:37 AM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Intashu (Post 5923195)
Similar interests lead to similar places it seems! :lmao: I was going to say I was here first.. but you joined 2 years before me apparently!

Ive been lurking for quite a while :)

TheSubaruJunkie 03-29-2019 11:12 AM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
I just wrapped up the finishing touches on my sons build. After installing the tail lights I realized the truck is desperately in need of a rear bumper. So I grabbed a few bits and pieces I had laying around and put together this little DIY tube bumper:
https://i.imgur.com/QIJeQfR.png

I think it turned out really well and fits the scale. It hangs a little too far from the body, so I am going to shorten the stand-offs I used and tuck it in a little closer.

TheSubaruJunkie 04-29-2019 12:04 PM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
Okay, time for a update on my C14. I got some new rims finally, so I could glue the tires down permanently.

http://i.imgur.com/3JIaxY6h.jpg
They are method beadlocks, on the left. Replicas of course, not fully functional bead locks. The D spoke rims on the right will go on my sons blue truck.

http://i.imgur.com/X6RDWiTh.jpg
Before I glued the tires down, I took some hot glue and BB's and added extra weight to the wheels. Each wheel weighs in at 23 grams now.

Here they are all mounted up :)
http://i.imgur.com/vTP6A2Uh.jpg

One other modification I had been meaning to do, but just wasn't 100% sure to pull it off, is a cantilever suspension setup. I saw another guys cantilever suspension where he used servo horns as the lever mechanism. This kept the scale look and fit really nice. I took his idea and rolled with it. In the end, it came out better than I had imagined :)

http://i.imgur.com/XW8Gi5ch.jpg
These are the parts I came up with. I Used the stock shocks, and a few random hobby parts laying around. The shock mounts are made of scrap G10.

They mount using the existing screws for the gearbox case & upper links.
http://i.imgur.com/sIKZmHPh.jpg

The entire setup fit neatly next to the frame rails:
http://i.imgur.com/Ecs6xGXh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Jmye3NSh.jpg

To get the flat bed to fit, I just had to clear out a couple areas:
http://i.imgur.com/oilJCkGh.jpg

Here she is all put back together:
http://i.imgur.com/c8Hef5mh.jpg


Here are some beauty shots of her in the rock garden:
http://i.imgur.com/ovpJYGwh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OukiTOph.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/q0qNecBh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/V0BNo9Zh.jpg

And to finish it all off, I had to do a quick little video edit :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1VmmseFRxU

Over all I am extremely pleased with the outcome. Next on the list is to build a rear cage and add a couple accessories.

TheSubaruJunkie 05-17-2019 09:46 PM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
One last body mod and I think she's pretty much complete.
The rear end looked naked. The bed really needed something. So I got some 4mm styrene rod off ebay, and used a heat gun to bend it. Then I used UV activated liquid plastic to "weld" it all together.

Here's the roll bar I made:
http://i.imgur.com/oSsqPjnh.png

http://i.imgur.com/9675ZGAh.png

There, now the rear end looks much better :)
http://i.imgur.com/W0x3RN0h.png


Added a 1/16 scale fire extinguisher my buddy printed for me to finish it off:
http://i.imgur.com/WClmdHEh.png

TheSubaruJunkie 06-27-2019 10:26 AM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
Okay so just a quick update, in case anybody here was interested in seeing what I did with my C14.

I ordered a C34 metal kit just to get the newly designed frame with the new transfercase. This new transfercase sits up real high, almost flush to the frame rails. It also has counter rotating output shafts to reduce torque twist on acceleration. After waiting a few weeks for the slow boat from china, my C34KM finally arrived.

http://i.imgur.com/ABkJLXyh.png
Here is the chassis assembled with my electronics, ready to receive axles and suspension.

http://i.imgur.com/bctLtxeh.png
Here is the axles and suspension installed. You can get a good idea of the added clearance with the gearbox tucked up in the frame.


In order to mount the C14 body to the C34 frame, you need to use the servo tray from the C14. Two existing holes line up, but the other two mounting holes need to be drilled into the plate. This is required to use the stock C14 body mounts. Also the frame rails are a tad bit too long to fit inside the C14 body, so you have to trim off a little of the frame on the rear. And there are raised shock mounts in the rear of the frame that have to be cut off, unless you cut access holes in the bed.

http://i.imgur.com/gprWOq4h.png
Otherwise the body is a direct fit. You can tell the wheel base on the new frame is slightly longer than stock, and the new C34 shocks are longer than the C14 so the ride height is taller.

http://i.imgur.com/oour8cOh.png
Here you can see the C14 next to my bone stock C24 for reference.

Lucky for me, BIC pens and other "clicky" pens have the perfect spring inside to replace the WPL springs. I took four pens, and removed their spring. Then I trimmed the spring slighly to make them shorter and I think I have the ride height just the way I like it:
http://i.imgur.com/ucRNDZrh.png


Here is a short video I made after doing the frame swap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-DHZC5bg_Q

I got some new wheels, but Im not going to reveal them until I find some larger tires for this rig. That should appear in my next update ;-)

TheSubaruJunkie 06-30-2019 02:02 PM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
Well I gave up on my search for larger tires. I found some but they are not soft, and im not sure if I want to use them or not.

So I mounted my new wheels to some stock WPL tires and mounted them up :)
They are replica Trailgear Creeper Locks.

http://i.imgur.com/HkKsiDuh.png

http://i.imgur.com/WjziWHUh.png

CD02 10-30-2019 05:35 PM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
RC4WD 1.2" tires fit these rims. The stock tires are slightly smaller at 66mm OD and the dirt grabbers have a 69.27mm outer diameter, the rock crushers have a 67.34mm OD

TheSubaruJunkie 11-09-2019 10:11 PM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CD02 (Post 5973935)
RC4WD 1.2" tires fit these rims. The stock tires are slightly smaller at 66mm OD and the dirt grabbers have a 69.27mm outer diameter, the rock crushers have a 67.34mm OD

Yup. But Im not spending that kinda money on RC4WD tires though.

I got lucky and found a toy rock crawler at my local goodwill that had the same size wheels as the WPL, 1.2" But the OD of the tires are much larger than the stock WPL.

Here you can see a side by side comparison of the two:
http://i.imgur.com/LdXC4g3h.jpg

Total cost $5.99 :)

soze 11-09-2019 11:20 PM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
Real nice work on your C14!

TheSubaruJunkie 11-10-2019 12:00 AM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soze (Post 5976252)
Real nice work on your C14!

Thanks man.

CD02 12-03-2019 12:35 PM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSubaruJunkie (Post 5976239)
Yup. But Im not spending that kinda money on RC4WD tires though.

I got lucky and found a toy rock crawler at my local goodwill that had the same size wheels as the WPL, 1.2" But the OD of the tires are much larger than the stock WPL.

Here you can see a side by side comparison of the two:
http://i.imgur.com/LdXC4g3h.jpg

Total cost $5.99 :)

Huh, how's the compound?

TheSubaruJunkie 12-08-2019 08:15 PM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CD02 (Post 5981092)
Huh, how's the compound?

They are pretty hard tires. Harder than the WPL RTR :(

PileDriver 01-01-2020 03:28 PM

Re: My WPL C14 build
 
Why didn't you take the links and shox from the c14 chassis and put them on the c34 chassis? Wouldn't that fix the wheelbase and ride height?

I just got a c34 kit to do the same thing you are doing. If i have to I'll make new links, also I'm using losi aluminum mini t shox.


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