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Old 01-02-2020, 10:53 AM   #1
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Hello and best wishes for 2020.

I finally got to start "concept testing" my Orlandoo based rock crawler project (compared to my stock Orlandoo def 110):




I still have plenty to do but I think it should work out pretty well.


I quit RC in 1992 (I was into 1/4 th scale at the time) and only got back into it 2 months ago so I guess I'm a beginner.


What I plan to do: move the steering servo back for a better attack angle, build shocks with longer travel if I can find suitable material in all my junk boxes (I haven't been RCing in the last 27 years but kept building things so I have plenty of boxes of aluminum, brass, steel, titanium, plastic...). I will then have to build a body and roll cage and start working on weight distribution, shock adjustment...
I'm also planning on shortening and soldering the wires to remove some of those bulky connectors, building a proper battery tray...



Any ideas, similar projects, comments (...) from you more experienced hobbyist would be appreciated.

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Old 01-02-2020, 11:22 AM   #2
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I think that someone has developed a 3D printed tube buggy style chassis for the Orlandoo drivetrain. May be some pictures and videos online.

Love to see others with the patience to deal with this smaller RCs. I just don’t have it anymore.
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Old 01-03-2020, 01:49 PM   #3
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I saw two 3d printed crawler bodies on the web. One of them, the Baby fat girl is quite nice. My brother has a 3D printer but i'm more old school. My 3d printer is my drill, mini gas torch, files, saw, hobby knife, forge...
Since I don't like to crawl without the scale look, I quickly modified an Orlandoo Defender body to have something to put on this chassis. I also shortened and soldered the wires and made a velcro strap to hold the battery. It now looks much neater. I will try to make a short video in nature this WE. This thing crawls soooo much better than the original Orlandoo. I love it!



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Old 01-04-2020, 09:09 AM   #4
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First outdoor test of my custom Orlandoo rock crawler. Two hours of fun. I was alone but I managed to make 2 short videos putting my camera on a stone:


Works great but I need more suspension travel. I haven't yet found how to make my own. Any suggestion of 1/24 shocks I could adapt?
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Old 01-04-2020, 10:20 AM   #5
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First outdoor test of my custom Orlandoo rock crawler. Two hours of fun. I was alone but I managed to make 2 short videos putting my camera on a stone:





Works great but I need more suspension travel. I haven't yet found how to make my own. Any suggestion of 1/24 shocks I could adapt?


You would need shock towers like the 1/10 crawlers have to go any longer. Something like this with some adjustability until it’s dialed in.



Any of the available 1/24 you can find on eBay would likely be an improvement. I believe the Carisma 1/24 are oil filled. But the Orlandoo probably doesn’t weigh enough to warrant that.
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Old 01-04-2020, 11:24 AM   #6
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I would have no problem machining appropriate shock towers but, to get more travel, you made a really good point about the weight. I seek more "negative travel" and therefor need really soft shocks. I thought maybe some 1/24 shocks would work but the springs would probably be too hard. The easiest solution I found to add shock travel with the original shocks was to set them at a 45 degree angle (for the rear axle) but that is not enough. I might have to take out my magnifier glass and try to make the shocks myself. I am thinking of using tubes from a telescopic antenna and servo screws but haven't found the right combination yet. I also would need to find the right springs.
Still open to any ideas...

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Old 01-04-2020, 02:14 PM   #7
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Ewww. To small for me. Losi made various rate springs for the 1/24 and 1/36 cars years ago. Maybe some of them.
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Ewww. To small for me. Losi made various rate springs for the 1/24 and 1/36 cars years ago. Maybe some of them.
If I had the skill, I would try a 1/87 scale crawler! 1/32 is still ok, not worse than repairing a laptop or cell phone or rebuilding a pruning chainsaw carburetor. It still is possible to find some parts for Losi micro crawlers. I will look into that. finding 1/24th scale shocks and soft springs could be the solution.
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Maybe could run the Carisma oil shocks with diff fluid and no springs. Static it would sit all the way down but dynamically crawling would function. Just a thought.
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Maybe could run the Carisma oil shocks with diff fluid and no springs. Static it would sit all the way down but dynamically crawling would function. Just a thought.
Interesting idea. So far, I haven't found length and travel data for the Carisma shocks. I spotted neat but expensive aluminum aftermarket shocks for the Losi with a overall length of 48.7mm for 9.5mm of travel. I still believe I can find better or cheaper options.
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Looks good, if you wanted some larger tires mini z awd wheels bolt right on to the orlandoo axles and allow you to use 1/24 scale tires. Like the BFG krawlers on this site.

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Looks good, if you wanted some larger tires mini z awd wheels bolt right on to the orlandoo axles and allow you to use 1/24 scale tires. Like the BFG krawlers on this site.

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Very interesting. Would the Mini-z Buggy rear rims fit? What is the external diameter of the mini-z rims? Those BFG tires look cool but I could picture my crawler with wider "balloon tires". I already have the Defender as a "street legal" crawler.
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My crawler now has seats, a steering wheel and a driver (who doesn't look too happy):

edit: I found a good deal on Kysho mini-z buggy rear rims and ordered them. Now to find the right tires. Any advice for soft crawler type tires that would fit?

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Not that will be that small. The 2wd Losi Micro 1/36 had some scale looking tires. Those Fireball tires would be a hard compound.
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I made the first pair of long travel Orlandoo shocks (seen next to the original shocks):

I made the shock body with a piece of telescopic antenna. I plugged one end by welding a piece brass rod that I drilled for the shaft. The shaft is from a short Orlandoo Defender suspension link (upper links).
Sure has more flex:

I need to make the second pair. It's amazing how making such a tiny simple part can take time and energy. The plug at the end of the shock body is the tricky part. Cutting drilling and welding such a tiny piece takes patience, especially with my lumberjack hands!
For the larger wheels, I am leaning towards Geko 24 tires.
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Very interesting. Would the Mini-z Buggy rear rims fit? What is the external diameter of the mini-z rims? Those BFG tires look cool but I could picture my crawler with wider "balloon tires". I already have the Defender as a "street legal" crawler.

Yep the buggy wheels will work too, they use the same style mounting hole with the two flat spots. I always forget the diameter of mini z wheels but I think they are 19mm od.
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I will probably end up making a few interchangeable bodies for this crawler. This WE, I had a try at making a buggy style body:



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New wheels: Geko 24 tires on modified toy rims:

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Nice.
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I will eventually try to make a nicer body and rims but I am now pretty satisfied with this crawler. I balanced it with lead to get a 55% front/ 45% rear weight ratio, slightly shortened the wheelbase and added rubber straps to the rear axle (helped a lot). With the extended shocks and 1.5 inch tires (with lead strips inside) this thing is really capable.

A video (before the tire upgrade):



A few detail pics:





And a preview of another project waiting to be completed:


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