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Old 09-30-2008, 10:06 PM   #1
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hey guys, I am going to be purchasing a crawler in the upcoming months and have a few questions. I don't really plan on competing just having a small backyard course that i could mess around on.
- Which would be a better crawler for a beginner the Axial ARTR or the Tamiya CR01?
- which esc would be the best to use? I already have a Novak XRS that came out of one of my other trucks but i don't really know if this would be a good choice or not. would i be better off spending just buying one of the Novak crawler esc's

any help would be greatly appreciated
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:39 PM   #2
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i would go with the Axial ARTR because it has ALOT of after market support. also i like the way it crawls. i would use the novak crawler esc if you can get one, its designed just for crawling, or get the best you can afford( i could only afford a tazer esc when i built my maxx) its really up to you and what motor you are going to use( like brushed or brushless) good luck

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Old 09-30-2008, 11:02 PM   #3
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That's what I said when I first started out. Just for messing around. Ha Ha! You will be hooked like the rest of us. I started with a kit Ax-10, but the only thing left is the axles, trans and some misc part's. From what i've seen the Artr look's like it's got some nice part's and would probably be the best start to be up and running.
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:04 PM   #4
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Go with the ARTR Axial. It comes with better parts than both the RTR and Kit. As far as electronics go, the Novak Crawler Rooster is user friendly and a hell of a deal. The drag brake is strong, it has a strong BEC, and it can run Lipo if wanted. Combine the Novak Crawler Rooster with the Novak 55T motor and you are set. You can buy both together in a combo and be GTG.

The CR01 is also an excellent rig, but its setup more for scale; not saying it can't crawl. As a beginner myself, I went with the ARTR.

My first crawler, go easy! :D
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:23 PM   #5
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I love competition rigs for their technical aspect but I have always enjoyed the scale rigs more. For messing around the campsite or crawling with friends I prefer running scale rigs.
I'd say the CR-01 would be more fun if the scale aspect has any interest to you.
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Old 10-01-2008, 06:34 AM   #6
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Go with the ARTR Axial. It comes with better parts than both the RTR and Kit. As far as electronics go, the Novak Crawler Rooster is user friendly and a hell of a deal. The drag brake is strong, it has a strong BEC, and it can run Lipo if wanted. Combine the Novak Crawler Rooster with the Novak 55T motor and you are set. You can buy both together in a combo and be GTG.

The CR01 is also an excellent rig, but its setup more for scale; not saying it can't crawl. As a beginner myself, I went with the ARTR.

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What's a BEC?
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Old 10-01-2008, 07:46 AM   #7
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What's a BEC?
The Abbreviation for Battery Elimination Circuitry. The BEC is a built-in voltage regulator (in the ESC) that supplies a constant voltage to the receiver and servo. Basically, you don't have to run a 4AA pack or small rechargeable pack for you receiver ad servo. The Novak Crawler Rooster has a 6.0v 5 amp BEC, which allows your servo to operate at it's fullest. A BEC can also be a small external device. http://www.castlecreations.com/products/cc_bec.html

When you look at a servo's specs, for example:

Hitec HS-7955TG
Speed: 0.19 sec/60 degrees at 4.8V
0.15 sec/60 degrees at 6.0V
Torque: 249.96 oz-in at 4.8V
333.29 oz-in at 6.0V


You can clearly see that the servo is operating faster and stonger at 6.0v versus 4.8v (4AAs). The BEC is important to look at when looking for a crawling ESC. Now if your ESC doesn't have a built in BEC, you ca always buy an external one. I prefer to have an ESC with a built in BEC as that is one less part to mount on your crawler. That is me though.



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Old 10-01-2008, 02:37 PM   #8
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Would it make sense, if I have the batteries and charger, but not a spare radio and other electronics, to buy the AX10 RTR and the Bender Customs Chassis together and go from there?? It seems to make sense to spend less then $400 for what would be a decent set up. I would plan to use Li-Po's and move the battery forward to toss the weight up there. I am new to this part of R/C and just wanted to get the opinion of you guys. Maybe give this guy something to think about too.
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I love competition rigs for their technical aspect but I have always enjoyed the scale rigs more. For messing around the campsite or crawling with friends I prefer running scale rigs.
I'd say the CR-01 would be more fun if the scale aspect has any interest to you.
That's what I like about the Tamiya, the FJ body looks so nice!

Im still not sure about which one i should get though, they both look like very nice rigs.
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Old 10-01-2008, 05:30 PM   #10
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For a beginner go with ax10. It will be your favorite "MONEY PARASITE"
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