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jeepster73 · 01-20-2009, 12:33 AM

Could not find anything via search....What are the advantages or lack of when mounting shocks at diffrent angles?...i have the HBZ WARTHOG, and on my rear top shock mounts i have 3 available mounting positions...i am currently running them on the very back(rear) of the chassis...

How would moving them all the way in affect the handling of the rig...would try it but there is still too much damn snow....on top of that,I was never too good in Geometry

Thanks

TURTLE · 01-20-2009, 12:37 AM

The more you lay down the shocks the more articulation you will have but in turn you will get more torque twist as well. The more you stand them up the harder it is for torque twist and cycling of the suspension in general.
There is a happy medium that you will have to find by moving things around.
Link location and geometry plays a part in this as well. But thats a whole other topic...
Good luck.

jeepster73 · 01-20-2009, 07:58 AM

Awesome... makes sense after reading your reply!!!

Thanks...

Steve

Espeefan · 01-20-2009, 09:20 AM

It's to bad they don't give more then one hole in the front though......

justadork · 01-20-2009, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Espeefan

It's to bad they don't give more then one hole in the front though......

Thats what the other holes are for.

bigdodge88 · 01-20-2009, 02:29 PM

Haha, you set yourself up for that one buddy.

Justin

One-eyed Jack · 01-21-2009, 06:33 PM

Check out the shock adjuster on the new Losi Comp Crawler. Make two or four. Make it as long as you want. Lean the shock all the way forward if you make it long enough. Shock angle changes the mechanical advantage that the axle has over the spring/shock. The more angle the more advantage = more articulation. Beyond that I ain't got a clue.

Espeefan · 01-22-2009, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justadork

Thats what the other holes are for.

You're a dork!

ChiefG · 02-01-2009, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TURTLE

The more you lay down the shocks the more articulation you will have but in turn you will get more torque twist as well. The more you stand them up the harder it is for torque twist and cycling of the suspension in general.
There is a happy medium that you will have to find by moving things around.
Link location and geometry plays a part in this as well. But thats a whole other topic...
Good luck.

Is it the same principle for the suspension arms?

Migs · 02-01-2009, 04:06 AM

Chief: Lots of folks move the lower arms inward in the chasis by cutting slots in the motor plate. This makes the arms less likely to hang up on something. I'm sure it does something to the geometry too. Here is a goo place to get ideas: The index: http://www.rccrawler.com/tech.htm But look at this one especially: http://www.rccrawler.com/axialcompbuild.html Enjoy! -Migs

01-20-2009, 12:33 AM	#1
jeepster73 Rock Crawler Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Up North Posts: 617	!!!Shock Angle!!! Could not find anything via search....What are the advantages or lack of when mounting shocks at diffrent angles?...i have the HBZ WARTHOG, and on my rear top shock mounts i have 3 available mounting positions...i am currently running them on the very back(rear) of the chassis... How would moving them all the way in affect the handling of the rig...would try it but there is still too much damn snow....on top of that,I was never too good in Geometry Thanks

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01-20-2009, 12:37 AM	#2
TURTLE Gettin’ back on the horse Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hoonsville Posts: 6,671	The more you lay down the shocks the more articulation you will have but in turn you will get more torque twist as well. The more you stand them up the harder it is for torque twist and cycling of the suspension in general. There is a happy medium that you will have to find by moving things around. Link location and geometry plays a part in this as well. But thats a whole other topic... Good luck.

01-20-2009, 07:58 AM	#3
jeepster73 Rock Crawler Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Up North Posts: 617	Awesome... makes sense after reading your reply!!! Thanks... Steve

01-20-2009, 09:20 AM	#4
Espeefan Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 570	It's to bad they don't give more then one hole in the front though......

01-20-2009, 02:29 PM	#6
bigdodge88 RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Monroe, NC Posts: 1,547	Haha, you set yourself up for that one buddy. Justin

01-21-2009, 06:33 PM	#7
One-eyed Jack Pebble Pounder Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Scotland Neck Posts: 163	Check out the shock adjuster on the new Losi Comp Crawler. Make two or four. Make it as long as you want. Lean the shock all the way forward if you make it long enough. Shock angle changes the mechanical advantage that the axle has over the spring/shock. The more angle the more advantage = more articulation. Beyond that I ain't got a clue.

02-01-2009, 04:06 AM	#10
Migs Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: La Paz, Bolivia Posts: 97	Chief: Lots of folks move the lower arms inward in the chasis by cutting slots in the motor plate. This makes the arms less likely to hang up on something. I'm sure it does something to the geometry too. Here is a goo place to get ideas: The index: http://www.rccrawler.com/tech.htm But look at this one especially: http://www.rccrawler.com/axialcompbuild.html Enjoy! -Migs

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