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newtoy · 09-16-2009, 09:18 AM

Why is a droop suposed to work better then sprung? I see these springs
http://rcpcrawlers.com/product.php?p...0&cat=0&page=1
and I think for 10 bucks why not try it out?

JeremyH · 09-16-2009, 01:54 PM

Who says it works better?

SVEN · 09-16-2009, 01:55 PM

Droop doesn't necessarily work better. It is just something else you can try out. It's not something that everyone likes or dislikes. Like many things in crawling it's just a personal preference.

Droop will get your center of gravity lower. You place the spring inside the shock body, underneath the piston. This reverses the normal shock position. So when at rest, the shock is in the normally compressed state.

The thing to watch out for is during climbs the front shocks will tend to unload, causing the CoG to raise and the front will not grab as well. That is where the testing and tuning will come in to suite your needs.

calikingcrawler · 09-16-2009, 09:52 PM

Sorry to thread steal, but I am trying to 60/40 droop some axial shocks. Can anyone walk me through it?

maxpower · 09-17-2009, 04:45 PM

again not to thread jack but do people use a combination of droop and spring over shocks? like a larger droop style in the rear and a normal style in the front?

clayton78 · 09-17-2009, 06:07 PM

Ive been useing a 75/25 droop for 2 years now and Ive been happy with it.

ABOW · 09-17-2009, 06:35 PM

i run full sprung on my swx.
but droop on my bastard jr.

but lower cg
cleaner look
sometimes smother

2wheeltyson · 09-17-2009, 07:27 PM

i tried it on my ax10. it worked better than the kit stock settings. but i couldn't stand the torq twist. so i started testing new outer springs and got it working better than droop with less twist.

DRock9 · 09-17-2009, 07:29 PM

Tried it on my Losi MRC, worked better than stock for sure.

calikingcrawler · 09-17-2009, 07:39 PM

how do you do it.

DRock9 · 09-17-2009, 07:41 PM

Replace the outside spring with one on the inside of the shock body, I used a BIC pen spring myself for my little Losi.

2wheeltyson · 09-19-2009, 07:02 PM

i didnt use any springs on my droop setup. just 80wt with #1 pistons. and fuel tubing inside and out to limit travel.

tjb · 09-19-2009, 07:36 PM

I've been using 150wt fluid in aluminum bodied axial AX10 shocks and am very happy with it (on a shaft rig). It will unload at times but seems to be a happy meduim for my driving style. I am running 60/40 link set up also with it.

chops1sc · 09-19-2009, 08:12 PM

I use 1000wt oil in my stock axial shocks with hardware store springs under the piston inside. I also use one stock rubber spacer outside the shock to get my ride height where I want it.

I tried many different weights oil and spring rates until I got it how I like it. Another thing to consider is converting to 4-link. It allows you to change the geometry to create more pro-squat. But thats another thread....

calikingcrawler · 09-19-2009, 10:36 PM

I know how to fully droop the axial shocks, I ran them on my tag chassis, but how do you do a 60/40 droop

SVEN · 09-19-2009, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calikingcrawler

I know how to fully droop the axial shocks, I ran them on my tag chassis, but how do you do a 60/40 droop

Use both inside and outside springs (shorter or longer) to get the combo you want.

irok · 09-19-2009, 11:53 PM

I run a 80/20 droop setup w/heavy oil and inner springs.
i really like it and won't go back to a full sprung setup again,it makes for very realistic suspension movement and it's fun to watch it cycle.
Torque twist is easy to control as well,do a search on the topic and you'll find at least 4 threads of tech info.

09-16-2009, 09:18 AM	#1
newtoy Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ST. George Posts: 117	Why droop suspension Why is a droop suposed to work better then sprung? I see these springs http://rcpcrawlers.com/product.php?p...0&cat=0&page=1 and I think for 10 bucks why not try it out?

09-16-2009, 01:54 PM	#2
JeremyH I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 16,952	Who says it works better?

09-16-2009, 01:55 PM	#3
SVEN I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Burnsville Posts: 3,096	Droop doesn't necessarily work better. It is just something else you can try out. It's not something that everyone likes or dislikes. Like many things in crawling it's just a personal preference. Droop will get your center of gravity lower. You place the spring inside the shock body, underneath the piston. This reverses the normal shock position. So when at rest, the shock is in the normally compressed state. The thing to watch out for is during climbs the front shocks will tend to unload, causing the CoG to raise and the front will not grab as well. That is where the testing and tuning will come in to suite your needs.

09-16-2009, 09:52 PM	#4
calikingcrawler RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Crawlifornia Posts: 1,941	Sorry to thread steal, but I am trying to 60/40 droop some axial shocks. Can anyone walk me through it?

09-17-2009, 04:45 PM	#5
maxpower Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sylvania Posts: 22	again not to thread jack but do people use a combination of droop and spring over shocks? like a larger droop style in the rear and a normal style in the front?

09-17-2009, 06:07 PM	#6
clayton78 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bay City Posts: 340	Ive been useing a 75/25 droop for 2 years now and Ive been happy with it.

09-17-2009, 06:35 PM	#7
ABOW Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Orange Posts: 221	i run full sprung on my swx. but droop on my bastard jr. but lower cg cleaner look sometimes smother

09-17-2009, 07:27 PM	#8
2wheeltyson Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: s.e. michigan Posts: 32	i tried it on my ax10. it worked better than the kit stock settings. but i couldn't stand the torq twist. so i started testing new outer springs and got it working better than droop with less twist.

09-17-2009, 07:29 PM	#9
DRock9 Rock Stacker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USA Posts: 74	Tried it on my Losi MRC, worked better than stock for sure.

09-17-2009, 07:39 PM	#10
calikingcrawler RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Crawlifornia Posts: 1,941	how do you do it.

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09-17-2009, 07:41 PM	#11
DRock9 Rock Stacker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USA Posts: 74	Replace the outside spring with one on the inside of the shock body, I used a BIC pen spring myself for my little Losi.

09-19-2009, 07:02 PM	#12
2wheeltyson Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: s.e. michigan Posts: 32	i didnt use any springs on my droop setup. just 80wt with #1 pistons. and fuel tubing inside and out to limit travel.

09-19-2009, 07:36 PM	#13
tjb Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Eau Claire Posts: 776	I've been using 150wt fluid in aluminum bodied axial AX10 shocks and am very happy with it (on a shaft rig). It will unload at times but seems to be a happy meduim for my driving style. I am running 60/40 link set up also with it.

09-19-2009, 08:12 PM	#14
chops1sc Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sumter, SC Posts: 619	I use 1000wt oil in my stock axial shocks with hardware store springs under the piston inside. I also use one stock rubber spacer outside the shock to get my ride height where I want it. I tried many different weights oil and spring rates until I got it how I like it. Another thing to consider is converting to 4-link. It allows you to change the geometry to create more pro-squat. But thats another thread....

09-19-2009, 10:36 PM	#15
calikingcrawler RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Crawlifornia Posts: 1,941	I know how to fully droop the axial shocks, I ran them on my tag chassis, but how do you do a 60/40 droop

09-19-2009, 11:53 PM	#17
irok Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: B.C.Canada Posts: 608	I run a 80/20 droop setup w/heavy oil and inner springs. i really like it and won't go back to a full sprung setup again,it makes for very realistic suspension movement and it's fun to watch it cycle. Torque twist is easy to control as well,do a search on the topic and you'll find at least 4 threads of tech info.

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