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wttwoa 11-13-2009 12:04 PM

which crawler to get?
 
for christmas im wanting to get into rc crawling/rock racing. this will be my first rc and i dont know what to get. i was thinking of either a vemon crawler, or ax10. my parents will let me have $200 for christmas plus some money ive been savin so around $250 total, im tryin to find a setup that can atleast get me a reliable crawler running for just crawling, but ill keep saving up more for some new things to turn it into a rock racer. me and my dad will be making a big track with a few small jumps but mainly rocks and a few straights to get to top speed. my goal is to be able to get a rock crawler for the back yard around $250 thats reliable, then upgrade it to a small racer for around $70 more and be able to go around 20mph maybe? does anyone have any budget setups they'd like to share?

Col. Sanders 11-13-2009 12:25 PM

$250 dollars for an ax10 is pretty cheap! Where I am from (Canada) just the first ax10 kit still cost more than $300, and that is without electronics, and the rtc's/rtr's are 350 plus. Heck! I think I put more than 700 dollars into my truck just to get it rolling, without upgrades!:shock:

20mph is ridiculously fast for a crawler! I think you'll find it will be near impossibly to control on the rocks and it won't have the torque you'll need for going slow. Also the suspension of a crawler like an ax10 is by no means capable of handling well at speed. I would not go for a rock racer if you want to go both fast and slow, I would just buy two different trucks, a crawler for going slow and a rustler vxl, or something like that, for going fast.

In the end I think your best bet would be an rtc or an rtr axial rig.

wttwoa 11-13-2009 12:37 PM

this is about how fast i want it to go, if that.

landrover4wd 11-13-2009 01:10 PM

They both look like capable crawlers but if you want both rock racer and rock crawler than maybe you should get the axial ax10 rock racer rtr witch comes with the extra 14pt pinion and front locker witch you can install so it can be a rock crawler. You will then have best of both worlds and still keep within your budget."thumbsup"

Here's the site: http://www.tcscrawlers.com/On-Sale-1...2-p-16753.html






wttwoa 11-13-2009 01:13 PM

i've seen it before, but couldnt find any videos of how fast itll go, and i dont like the fact that most parts are plastic.

BLOODBANE 11-13-2009 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wttwoa (Post 2101041)
i dont like the fact that most parts are plastic.

Just like in real life though, hop up parts cost $$$'s. Start out with something you can control and build it into what you want.

wttwoa 11-13-2009 01:49 PM

im gonna make a list of hop ups i want to do, and since its already rtr, i can buy the parts when i want to

EDIT:
here is what i have so far:
AXA1411 AX10 Scorpion RTR Hardware Upgrade Kit $20.00
AXA1408 AX10 Scorpion Color Pack - Red $50.00
AX30122 Aluminum Shock Body 12x55mm (2pcs.) $35.00
AX30122 Aluminum Shock Body 12x55mm (2pcs.) $35.00
AX8116 2.2 Rock Beadlock Ring - Red (2pcs) $14.00
AX8116 2.2 Rock Beadlock Ring - Red (2pcs) $14.00
AX24007 55T Electric Motor $18.00
total $186.00

i also just found out its top speed is 7 mph, nowhere near where i want it to be so i was wondering if theres another motor i can use with the stock esc that will get it to 15 mph. and on the review it said its top heavy on the steep climbs

squatch71 11-13-2009 04:09 PM

Go 3s and a holmes 7t puller...do a search on it...amazing stuff...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZODhnTL-Bjg

wttwoa 11-13-2009 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squatch71 (Post 2101590)
Go 3s and a holmes 7t puller...do a search on it...amazing stuff...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZODhnTL-Bjg

that looks like a little too much, and very costly

paulydog 11-13-2009 05:45 PM

dude wttwoa if you are looking for something affordable check out the duratrax cliff climber. Or find a dofferent hobby RC ain't cheap.

shadowrejects 11-13-2009 05:51 PM

i wouldnt get an AX10, everyone has one and rememer, you still need an ESC and Reciever and radio and battery, whitch is EST.100 dollars, venoms are in the 150 range and ive heard ALOT of good things about the venoms, if u dont either of em, i got a mrc RTR for 259, but u can get em as low as 200$, i just had to pay tax, but the MRc, venom, and Axial are amazing crawlers, some of the tip top brands, axial has a RTR kit, check it out sometime ;-)... if u need help or got some questions, just PM me "thumbsup"

o3_xterra 11-13-2009 06:23 PM

Check out eBay. That's where I got mine. Although, I paid $400 for it. Then dropped close to $700 to overhaul it. On eBay, you can get a decent RTR or ARTR for not a decent price. Which is, the better way to start out. Unlike me. I have been watching that one for some time. There are many RC's on eBay. If you want cheap, go to Radio Shack. For $250 or less, go for an RTR. Just my opinion. Eventually, you can upgrade.

imbler2 11-13-2009 06:59 PM

get the losi nightcrawler!

NeXt559 11-13-2009 07:05 PM

here's a bender vid of him bashing a relativly stock rtr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEWCLbKgthU

and here's one of the rtc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2WmI33n1Jo

Quote:

Originally Posted by imbler2 (Post 2102250)
get the losi nightcrawler!

the night crawler wouldnt really do too well as a basher because of the worm gears. but i do agree that itwill out crawl an rtr or rtr

wanantrdsc 11-13-2009 07:21 PM

Axial AX10 RTR - upgrade later, run now!

wttwoa 11-13-2009 08:05 PM

if i get the rtr, could i get a faster motor without having to upgrade esc, then get the 55t motor for nothing but rock crawling?

tklatti 11-13-2009 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanantrdsc (Post 2102329)
Axial AX10 RTR - upgrade later, run now!

Just remember. This one comes with out drag brake. Incase thats a big deal for ya."thumbsup"

wanantrdsc 11-13-2009 08:10 PM

You could use a 35T, that might be pretty good. A 27T, like the Axial or Wheely King motor is also a likely option.

wttwoa 11-13-2009 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tklatti (Post 2102496)
Just remember. This one comes with out drag brake. Incase thats a big deal for ya."thumbsup"

what exactly is that?

wanantrdsc 11-13-2009 08:20 PM

Its a setting on the esc, that prevents the rig from rolling backward. A cheap cure for full crawling is an HPI gear reduction box. The gearing is through the floor, all guts and grunt, and its geared so low, you dont roll back. I built a Wheely King crawler (my first crawler), and I put one in with it, cause of money issues. I had an extra Traxxas XL-5 esc, so I tossed it in. The gear box is ~$20. If it fits in your setup, you just bolt the motor to it, and then bolt the unit to the trans.

http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/87634/

http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/pa...87634_001m.jpg


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