12-16-2009, 03:38 AM | #1 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: KK Sabah North Borneo
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Im totally newbie with crawling. My pathfinder is only 1 week old. I noticed with HB rover tires with stock inserts but with some weight(no idea how many in grams i put) it can climb just a little bit on a slightly above 50 deg path... but when i just touch it on the front axle with little bit of pressure, it can climb right till the end... does this indicate i need to add more front weight??? wish i can take picture to show what i mean.. pls give advise. thanks in advance |
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12-16-2009, 04:24 AM | #2 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ...the burning end of the rope.
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tell us about your rig,,base rig?,,what upgrades if any?,,what motor? what esc? other electronics? battery type? where is the battery mounted? what kind of wheels? where did you add the weight?
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12-16-2009, 11:28 PM | #3 | |
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mine using HB rover tires and all weight is in on the wheels inside. any idea on how I able to climb steeper path.. thanks in advance rmdesignworks | |
12-17-2009, 12:03 AM | #4 |
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Your COG is to high. You can try a couple of different things. 1. Run Shorter Shocks 2. Use the Stock shocks and mount them on the axle instead of the links. But your best bet is to get a new chassis from just about anyone of the Vendors on here. Once you do that. Work on weight placement. |
12-17-2009, 12:37 AM | #5 | |
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I think i wanna try the no.2 option 1st before goin to the last suggestion ;) I just got this new crawler n getting new one is asking myself and the internal finance minister too much already, if u know what i mean Thanks run2jeepn. Appreciate it very much. Finally able to chat with you here. If you have not seen my blog yet at JonehRC.com, I just wanna let you see my post on your Beetle Pimp Cane crawler. Posted long time ago Feb 8 2007!!!! Here's the link: Rock Crawling. Non Nitro Style! | |
12-17-2009, 11:34 PM | #6 |
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wait is this not a Exceed mad crawler? |
12-17-2009, 11:45 PM | #7 |
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12-17-2009, 11:50 PM | #8 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: marysville
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An AX10 at my LHS today had like 14oz each front and like 8 each rear I was ok afterward though, but I thought mine was heavy! |
12-18-2009, 02:05 PM | #9 | |
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I thought the same thing with my AX10 scaler...so I strapped another battery to the front axle and gave it a run...helped a bit, but not lots...try it out, yours might work. I think that since your/we're pushing down on the axle, we are varing the weight needed to help climb the obstical with out really knowing that we are changing the weight...that's why I put a battery on mine..its more constant weight, just to test. What I just thought of is put a pill bottle on your axles somewhere and fill it with bb's, then climb it..adjust your weight and then test it again. once you get to a weight that suits you, weight the pill bottle and add that amount to the wheels (divided of course). just a thought... on your COG, couldn't you just adjust the shocks where they are attached to your links??? that should lower your whole rig. | |
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thanks. everyone. thanks a lot. i will try all your suggestion and be back on this thread with pictures. | ||||
12-18-2009, 10:19 PM | #11 |
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01-14-2010, 08:45 PM | #12 |
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I'm back here. I so love this forum... will definitely contribute something here... i heard i need paypal moolah to get the star(s) ;) Anyway, here's my update.. the pictures i mean Below during my crawler build.. so i end up just a cameraman :( Below at peace.. watching the cloud right on the top below is from our last meeting.. with the scalers. They so so.. cute Below is during our 1st competition. Tackling the tighter corner.. meant for the 2.2 rig... man what a disadvantage! Sorry for the big picture... hope i didn't create any mistake here. the HB rovers are totally awesome. I just wish i have a shorter axle width... :( |
01-14-2010, 08:48 PM | #13 |
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Another one ... all the heavy stuffs stays down below... i just love this body.. |
01-14-2010, 08:58 PM | #14 |
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01-14-2010, 09:01 PM | #15 |
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so is the yellow/green jeep yours??? looks good.... I just noticed two things... one...your in Borneo...thats cool two...the american "crocks" made it clear across the seas...that sucks cool pics man...what did you find out with the weight |
01-14-2010, 09:14 PM | #16 |
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Looks like Borneo has some nice crawl spots, cool pics.
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01-14-2010, 09:15 PM | #17 |
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I am new to all of this as well and dont have all (or any, LOL) of the answers, but I just read on another thread that another member had added to much weight to his front wheels and was burning up his drive gears. Apparently the gears could not handle the strain put on them from the extra weight. I know a lot of these guys add it to the wheels and I will do the same, but be careful you dont add too much. Just thought I would pass this on. Good luck and listen to these guys they are a great wealth of information.
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Yes of course i will listen, learn and hope can put into practical. Most crawler people here are nice people that willing to share. I just love it. i especially like to "hang out" at the MOA thread. Oh ya, with the thread question answered.. the how heavy is heavy? .. i have another question regarding the motor wiring. is parallel wiring a must or just stick with the default 2 sets of wire to each motor.. series?? or shud i open another thread just on this question... thanks everyone. thanks for all the help so far | |||||
04-30-2010, 01:53 PM | #19 | |
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Tested mine with lower COG and it was better. Better tyres and servo and it rocks. There's quite some room for adjustment on this rig. Will post pics this weekend after some tests. Last edited by reden; 04-30-2010 at 01:56 PM. | |
05-02-2010, 10:36 AM | #20 |
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hi jonehrc, great pics of your crawls in sabah. if you guys are in KL, do give us a heads up, likewise if we head over to sabah. come check us out in rc-malaysia - rock crawler. apologize for an off topic reply. |
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