would like your input

[hellbounder]

Originally Posted by masonis1

Go to the creeper section and tell them that.

And then what are they going to do?

[hellbounder]

I'm not saying there aren't some badass creepers out there built by some people that have dedicated a whole lot of time to get them that way. But it's just a fact that there's going to be more customer, tech, vendor support . And parts wether stock or aftermarket for the axial rig.

[Brainstain]

Save the headache and just buy an Axial. Mason is a dildo and by the time you have a good Venom it's all custom made anyhow. I've never had good luck with anything from Venom as a company. It seems to all be cheaply made crap.

[Jay$]

okay so i have another question TowerHobbies.com | SRC01 Integy 1/10 iROCK-10 4WD Rock Crawler 2.4GHz RTR how is this ive been doing some research and i cant seem to find much.

[hoghead5150]

pretty much anything integy means RUN! only thing i've found that is any good that they make is their motors. and they don't actually MAKE those!!

[kbogger81]

last time i saw a venom creeper at a comp an axle broke on all 4 courses we ran. im a losi man but i do have an axial scx10 and ill say its pretty well built with factory parts. axial ax10's can do some amazing things, they whip my comp crawler all the time. axial and also losi have plenty of aftermarket support, i believe id go with tried an true like an ax10 for example.

[Jay$]

i might wait till march and try the axial ax10 ridgecrest i like alot about it!

[Jay$]

anyone know anything about it yet?

[whalebone]

The Tranny in the creepers suck!!! Ridgecreast hit the search there's people talking about it under the ax-10 page

[C*H*U*D]

Originally Posted by whalebone

Ridgecreast hit the search there's people talking about it under the ax-10 page

Here is a better link to check out:

Something else new from Axial? The Ridgecrest...



The Creeper's only problem is the aftermarket support, or rather lack of aftermarket support. If you had to drive the AX as designed against a Creeper as designed the AX would have a tough time.

Keep in mind you'd have to run a 3-link against a 4-link, dogbones against CVD's and "no dig" against "dig".

That being said, the AX does have the aftermarket support, and all those parts are available. But all of you saying you have to put so much more work into getting a Creeper acceptable, must have forgotten how much work went into your AX-10's.

Since the Safari was mentioned in the first post, I would suggest the SCX Dingo Kit.

[masonis1]

Originally Posted by C*H*U*D

Here is a better link to check out:

Something else new from Axial? The Ridgecrest...



The Creeper's only problem is the aftermarket support, or rather lack of aftermarket support. If you had to drive the AX as designed against a Creeper as designed the AX would have a tough time.

Keep in mind you'd have to run a 3-link against a 4-link, dogbones against CVD's and "no dig" against "dig".

That being said, the AX does have the aftermarket support, and all those parts are available. But all of you saying you have to put so much more work into getting a Creeper acceptable, must have forgotten how much work went into your AX-10's.

Since the Safari was mentioned in the first post, I would suggest the SCX Dingo Kit.

The ax has dog bones? And does it come w/ dig?

[whalebone]

Originally Posted by C*H*U*D

Here is a better link to check out:

Something else new from Axial? The Ridgecrest...



The Creeper's only problem is the aftermarket support, or rather lack of aftermarket support. If you had to drive the AX as designed against a Creeper as designed the AX would have a tough time.

Keep in mind you'd have to run a 3-link against a 4-link, dogbones against CVD's and "no dig" against "dig".

That being said, the AX does have the aftermarket support, and all those parts are available. But all of you saying you have to put so much more work into getting a Creeper acceptable, must have forgotten how much work went into your AX-10's.

Since the Safari was mentioned in the first post, I would suggest the SCX Dingo Kit.

my creeper didnt have dig and the cvds suck to pins kept breaking in them when they didn't fall out. Just saying

[C*H*U*D]

Originally Posted by masonis1

The ax has dog bones? And does it come w/ dig?

Yes and no.

I'm not trying to start a comparison war. The Creeper has a lot of problems out of the box but so does the AX. My point is that both of these trucks are "platforms" for your own ideas. You can make both of them better with DIY as well as aftermarket products.

My personal choice is the AX-10, but I also own a Creeper. I just get tired of seeing people who have never owned a Creeper, bash it because everyone else does.

I also get tired of seeing Mason's "Creeper Love" posts popping up everywhere. We get it....you like the Creeper! Now give it a rest.

[masonis1]

Originally Posted by C*H*U*D

Yes and no.

I'm not trying to start a comparison war. The Creeper has a lot of problems out of the box but so does the AX. My point is that both of these trucks are "platforms" for your own ideas. You can make both of them better with DIY as well as aftermarket products.

My personal choice is the AX-10, but I also own a Creeper. I just get tired of seeing people who have never owned a Creeper, bash it because everyone else does.

I also get tired of seeing Mason's "Creeper Love" posts popping up everywhere. We get it....you like the Creeper! Now give it a rest.

Ill give it a rest. I got my creeper used, what are some problems out of the box with both?

[masonis1]

Originally Posted by whalebone

my creeper didnt have dig and the cvds suck to pins kept breaking in them when they didn't fall out. Just saying

I just have the pins fall out.

[Charlie-III]

Originally Posted by masonis1

I just have the pins fall out.

RMD makes an inexpensive fix for that.
Actually, RMD makes a ton of stuff for the Creeper and supports the hell out of it.

My son bought a used Creeper, using ideas in the Venom Creeper forum he made a rather capable rig for not a lot of money.

Frankly, for someone new, I would also ask 2 questions:
1-What parts does my LHS stock (or can get easily)
2-What do others "local to me" run so I can ask questions/get local support.

Having the "biggest baddest meanest Mother effer rig on the planet" means almost nothing if you have no local support and all parts have to be ordered.
Especially if your RC experiance is limited.
Just saying.

I guess my comment on what to get is, most of the RTR's have very basic electronics. While that means a bit less expensive, they are usually limited in what they can do and how well they can do it.
Looking for a complete roller & then buying better electronics may be a better bet.
Again, a decent LHS is a plus here.

[masonis1]

Originally Posted by Charlie-III

RMD makes an inexpensive fix for that.
Actually, RMD makes a ton of stuff for the Creeper and supports the hell out of it.

My son bought a used Creeper, using ideas in the Venom Creeper forum he made a rather capable rig for not a lot of money.

Frankly, for someone new, I would also ask 2 questions:
1-What parts does my LHS stock (or can get easily)
2-What do others "local to me" run so I can ask questions/get local support.

Having the "biggest baddest meanest Mother effer rig on the planet" means almost nothing if you have no local support and all parts have to be ordered.
Especially if your RC experiance is limited.
Just saying.

I guess my comment on what to get is, most of the RTR's have very basic electronics. While that means a bit less expensive, they are usually limited in what they can do and how well they can do it.
Looking for a complete roller & then buying better electronics may be a better bet.
Again, a decent LHS is a plus here.

And everything he makes is strong, quality, and cheap.

[C*H*U*D]

Originally Posted by masonis1

...I got my creeper used, what are some problems out of the box with both?

Too many to list for both. Every truck has problems, but the day we start getting perfect trucks will be the day RCC shuts down, because then what would we all have to talk about?

[DickyT]

Originally Posted by C*H*U*D

Too many to list for both. Every truck has problems, but the day we start getting perfect trucks will be the day RCC shuts down, because then what would we all have to talk about?

Amen

[masonis1]

That is true. There is really no way to make one of these perfect