First crawler Hi I'm new in the crawler part of rc. Normally I'm more of a basher/racer kinda guy but never competition. Recently I went to my first short course track and I liked that. So maybe I'll get into that more as well. But I'm looking into crawling for something less breaky kind of rc. There's a bmx parcours in the woods not far from my home which is fun to do with speed, but I'd like to do it slowly as well. Unfortunately I don't have that kind of vehicle. I'm also looking for something to run around in my backyard. I used to have a t2m pirate pigmy which I used more for crawling than anything else. I even built a course and everything. If you want to, you can see it on youtube. But now I want something a bit more purpose built for that. I really would like to have a MOA because I like the look and the versatility of the two motors and dual steering. The problem is availability. I live in Belgium and they only have a few MOA crawlers available. Here in the shop or through internet purchases. First I was looking at the rc4wd bully 2. But 800 euros is a bit much or even more if I would buy the kit and accessories. So I started looking at little crawlers. The only real moa's are practically non existing. I found the basher rocksta for around 86euros. The rest are not moa's but look a bit like them: Ecx temper gen 2 for 159euros. Ecx barrage doomsday for 219,99euros. G-made rock buggy kit for 299,99euros. And the losi night crawler for 299,99euros. Which one of these would be nice to have? What are the downsides? Is there a lot of tuning to be done to make them decent? Should i try to put one together from parts? I don't want to spend a ton of money unless you would say the cheaper ones are not worth the money. I would like to go up steep hills and big rocks and maybe a track in the back yard. Thanks in advance! |
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Re: First crawler I think the most capable of the crawlers you listed is the Losi Nightcrawler, but I can't tell you a lot else about it as I don't own one. Did you look into the exceed mad torque? That is a budget MOA that is available here at least. |
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But at first glance I am only able to buy it through ebay or amazon. Which means it's probably going to be taxed to get it imported into europe' I'll check it out to see if I can't find it in Belgiim or the EU. |
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Re: First crawler The Axial Capra.... Probably as close to comp/scale as you can get.... not a MOA, but should be comparable to a Shafty when set up properly.... |
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You have to be clear on your budget to get a decent answer "thumbsup" |
Re: First crawler maybe look at the old clod buster its moa but has a scale body that dosent mean it has to stay that way might be a cheaper option for you and lots and lots of info about it and the parts are still around to make it anything you want the only real down side is its vary old teck but hay it might fit the bill |
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And it looks pretty good. The price is 379euros, but I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better to go all out then for a bully 2 kit and build one like that. The kit is around 650 euros but I have no idea if it is capable enough for that kind of money. |
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it's for sale in november. 379euros. What does the dig function do? looks like you need a spektrum mini servo for it. |
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If the electronics were better on the temper gen 2 i would buy that. But the small battery and 2 in 1 esc receiver annoys me a bit. I'm not really a fan of the looks of the capra, but there is a lot to do about this car. Why is that? Which is better? The capra or the r1? I really like the look of the r1 though. If it really is that good and can go up against the capra I would maybe go for that. Would it hold up against a full on bully 2? :P this is the most difficult choice I have ever made with regards to an rc. |
Re: First crawler Hey Bennie98, Hello from the USA... IMHO you should be looking at one of the Axial Cage built rigs like the Bomber, both a rock racer/basher and a decent crawler and can go fast too. My son in law has one and it is a lot of fun. Next up is the Wraith, I have one of these that I built from the kit. I've had it 8 years now and it's still going strong. It too can be a rock racer/basher and go fast but I like to go slow and drive with finesse over obstacles. Both of these come RTR(ready to run) or as kits for you to build and are considered 2.2 rigs for the size of the wheels and tires. They have great suspension articulation and were designed and built from the real 1:1 off road buggies. The new Capra has yet to come out and will be in kit form so you build it adding your own steering and dig servos, ESC and motor and radio as well as wheels and tires. Again these are a cage type rig and have body panels exception is the Wraith Spawn addition. Now if you want to go with a full on body type, say you have a truck or car style you really like and want to make one, go with, and there are several real good ones with excellent support with after market parts, rigs like the Axial SCXII, Traxxas TRX-4, Team Associated Element Enduro, RC4WD they have many vehicles and a MOA one too, Redcat Gen8, pricey but awsome Vanquish VS4-10 Pro, the manufactures go on and on but these would be the most supported and hold up well to all you can throw at them. Aftermarket bodies of all types are available to build your own rig as well as motors, wheels and tires, shocks, winches and scale accessories galore. You Tube is a wealth of information on anything RC. Big thing too is battery and chargers there are many type of these and like LIPO batteries require some knowledge to safely handle these if you are going to use them. Do some research on a vehicle and pick one that suits your style and go have fun! |
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Bully 2 is a different animal because its a MOA...and way more expensive.Its a competition crawler ...you dont want/need that..you look somewhere else. Thats the one I build for myself [IMG]https://s17.directupload.net/images/190927/yjqaiyiu.jpg[/IMG] |
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check out the clod section lots of crawlers but there realy out dated |
Re: First crawler I took a look at a capra build video. I'm not a fan of that obligatory spektrum servo. The rest seems okay. But I would like a vehicle that can have a large battery pack. I don't want to go out to get a new stock of small batteries. But it seems crawlers all have small batteries. Except maybe the trx4, but I don't want a traxxas. I must be a weirdo or something. No scale/trail, no small batteries, no all in one esc/receiver and a decent crawler. Those are my wanna haves. Maybe I'll just get the temper gen2 and put in new electronics or something. |
Re: First crawler The reason crawlers have small batteries, is they do not need big ones. My Scx10II honcho gets 1.5-2 hours of run time on a 2200mah 3 s battery. When I go big power on my brushless 3000kv Motor, I get 45 min on the same battery pack. Most guys get bored faster than that. I find I like long, all day trail runs, so I run 5000 mah 3s packs and run for 8+ hours with 2-3 packs. The lighter weight of the smaller packs really helps with CG. And for pure performance, Lighter weight works better. The Temper I believe is a mini or 1/12, or 1/18 scale. So it requires smaller batteries anyway. |
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But I have 2s 5000mah packs lying around which I could use if they would fit. But they don't so I would need to buy new batteries... |
Re: First crawler I went for the hobbyking basher rocksta. Together with a turnigy Nano-Tech 300mAh 2S 35 Pack Lipo ~ 70C batterie for 75euros. If I like it I'll probably go for the bully 2 or the capra. I'll see.. but since it's autumn I will only ride inside or in the garden. And a small crawler like this will be fun I think. |
Re: First crawler Have fun...here some insight. https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...Crawler-Review |
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Re: First crawler I received my rocksta today. I couldn't wait to start crawling. I got home and charged the battery. It took about 30 minutes for a 300mah battery. Which is long. I noticed my 400mah heli batteries would fit as well. So that's a bonus. They are all 2s batteries. After crawling for a while i noticed it does make a lot of noise. This is mostly the esc when i throttle. Forward and reverse. But the servos and the motors make a lot of noise as well. This makes it a bit annoying to use indoors. I haven't used it outside as it is raining. But I'm guessing the noise will be less obtrusive there. But the crawling is super nice. It gets on some really steep angles. And the drag brake works like a charm. Maybe some stickier tires would be nice, but I'm guessing those won't be easy to find for this size. I noticed one of the wheels always touches one of the links. Luckily you can set the endpoint for the servos. But this means the steering isn't as tight as it could be. It's also peculiar that it's only one wheel. Although I can't seem to see anything different about this wheel. I would like to know if it is possible to make it a bit quieter or ir someone would know why there is one wheel rubbing? Are there any mods I could buy. i know there are some for weighing down the wheels. But maybe tires or something? :) |
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