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itr1275 11-24-2020 10:34 AM

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Hi All,

I'm looking to build a scale rig and I know virtually nothing about it, other than Youtube. So take it for what it's worth.

I'm considering the following.

The SCX10 III. The kit is not without fault (clicking and leaking shocks) but everything seems to be fixable. The price is reasonable and there upgrades (or coming soon) for everything. Axial seems to be the standard.

The Vanquish VS4-10 Pro or Ultra. It's expensive but everyone seems to love it. It also has most of the upgrades I would want to get anyway.

The Traxxas TRX4. Seems to be the best bang for the $$. However, it doesn't speak to me. There are some upgrades but not like Axial.

Yah I know this like discussing religion to some and it comes down to personal preference, but I'm starting at 0 and have no preference nor context.

Any feedback on quality, performance, price, support, general good or bad feelings are helpful. Or did I miss something important or other choices.

If you would be so kind as to give me some input on why you like each kit or why you would not recommend it.

talltee9 11-24-2020 11:14 AM

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I would say I have a trx4 blazer. Its a really great truck. Although honestly my only comparison would be to my vaterra ascender, so take that for what its worth lol. Axails seem to have a ton of upgrades but you can easily sink a couple grand into a crawler. Just reading your post however I think you would be most satisfied with the vanquish. They seem to pretty super Although I don't know much about them myself besides YouTube. It may be worth it to shell out the cash for it upfront, I got my ascender first which in hindsight I probably wouldn't have gotten. I still love it but next to the trx4 it's a different animal. I say if the vanquish really jump out to you grab it. But you really can't go wrong with either one.

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talltee9 11-24-2020 11:16 AM

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Oh and also have you looked at the rc4wd trail finder 2? Don't know much about the performance. But as far a scale goes there pretty sweet.

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Kingmeow 11-24-2020 02:04 PM

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If your budget allows it, get the Vanquish. I have two Axials and never owned a Vanquish (budget reason) but I've heard so many excellent things about it.

Buy once, don't buy twice. :D

talltee9 11-24-2020 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingmeow (Post 6054731)
If your budget allows it, get the Vanquish. I have two Axials and never owned a Vanquish (budget reason) but I've heard so many excellent things about it.

Buy once, don't buy twice. :D

Sound advice!

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Phildirt 11-24-2020 03:45 PM

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When you say "scale" do you mean scale? The 10iii and TRX4 have portals so if you are wanting accurate the only thing close there would possibly be the 10iii with the straight axle conversion that just came out. Personally I'd get either an SSD Trail King or Element Enduro builder's kit and put a body of your choice on it, both are 12.3 wheelbase so tons of options including any of the Traxxas bodies (Bronco or any of the 3 Blazers). Or the RC4WD yota 4 door and extended cab versions are both 12.3 wheelbase. If you mean scale as in 'looks kind of real' then I'd go TRX4. That Vanquish is just really expensive for a casual/fun rig imo. You could pretty darn near reverse engineer it with all of the good bits on any kit chassis without that price tag. Before I get roasted for that - disclaimer I am a noob, this commentary is based on reading about 10,000 posts on all 8 trucks everyone is building over and over LOL.

Last bit of advice - not sure why you think you'll need to upgrade any of the major brand kits right off the bat. I would build or buy an RTR and wheel the piss out of it/see what breaks instead of throwing parts on it out of the box. That way you see what works/what doesn't and you have a performance baseline. Believe it or not you don't need new shocks, shock towers, drive shafts, servo horns, batter trays, or 5lbs of brass weight to have fun with one of these trucks. It does make for a more interesting thread though lol. I am about to pull the trigger on an Element rig and my only plans are wheels, tires, and foams. I'll save the rest of my money for another kit later this year instead of re-engineering that one haha.

itr1275 11-24-2020 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by talltee9 (Post 6054709)
Oh and also have you looked at the rc4wd trail finder 2?


I have, and love the bodies. But I've also got a fascination with 3/4 link suspension. I have nothing with a solid axle in real life (all Toyotas), so I want to live vicariously through my RC.

itr1275 11-24-2020 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Phildirt (Post 6054742)
When you say "scale" do you mean scale?


Nope, I won't be buying fake shovels and a dog since I already have the full size version of both. ;-)



I mean a scale type kit. We all know the portals are not common in the real world, but we like them because they are fun. To further that point no Toyota product that I know have has ever had a 3/4 link front suspension, but people run Land Cruiser and 4Runner bodies all the time.



My vision to do what I would do to a real truck to make it capable off road. So if were to SAS my Tacoma or 4Runner it would be a 3/4 link for sure.

itr1275 11-24-2020 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Phildirt (Post 6054742)
Last bit of advice - not sure why you think you'll need to upgrade any of the major brand kits right off the bat. I would build or buy an RTR and wheel the piss out of it/see what breaks instead of throwing parts on it out of the box. That way you see what works/what doesn't and you have a performance baseline. Believe it or not you don't need new shocks, shock towers, drive shafts, servo horns, batter trays, or 5lbs of brass weight to have fun with one of these trucks. It does make for a more interesting thread though lol. I am about to pull the trigger on an Element rig and my only plans are wheels, tires, and foams. I'll save the rest of my money for another kit later this year instead of re-engineering that one haha.


Sound advice. I could spend a small fortune at SSD and I may get nothing for it but a sticker. The upgrades would be things like steel inards, better tires, metal axles housings. Run that and then start looking at chopping and adding.



However, I need the right starting place.

itr1275 11-24-2020 11:22 PM

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I little financial analysis. For what it's worth I can buy 3 Traxxas TRX4 RTRs for the price of one Vanquish. It really makes me think.



All kits would use the same electronics (except the RTR). Listed in order of price low to high.
  • Spectrum S6250 Standard Digital Servo
  • Castle - Mamba Micro X Crawler Edition ESC/Motor
  • Spektrum - (2x) SX107 Dig Servo
  • Flysky BS6 Receiver

TRX4 RTR - $373.95
No additions

TRX4 Sport kit - $650.42
+Spektrum SX107 Servo (2)

Element/SSD - $937.61
+Pro-Line Tires (2)
+Beadlock Wheels (2)
+Tire Foam
+Body

SCX10III - $855.44
+ Spektrum SX107 Servo (2)

Vanquish VS4-10 Pro - $1,167.46
No additions

ScaleLifeNewbie 11-25-2020 02:11 AM

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If it was ME choosing my next rig, the Vanquish is out of the question. It's just too much. Then comes the SCX10iii. Out of the question as well. It looks good, but It has too many pointless things/features on it. The TRX4 RTR. If your getting a TRX4, might as well get a Bronco/Blazer/Defender, but I already have one, don't need two!

I'd go with the Sport kit and your electronics you have picked out. Possbily even throw in some G8 compound PL tires and INJORA beadlocks, but the Canyon Trails with lugs cut out do good I've heard. Oh yeah, gotta have the expo. rack on the body. Yeah yeah, people'll say it adds weight up high, but the Sport looks goofy without it most the time IMO.

Maybe you even go with a Defender or Bronco/Blazer chassis? Personally, my favorite part is having the ability to challenge myself by having the 2 speed and switchable diffs. That way your not fully locked 100% of the time.

Whatever you get, the main idea is having fun! Your rig may not be the best one the world, but as long as your having fun, that's all that matters!

Just my .02 cents

Phildirt 11-25-2020 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ScaleLifeNewbie (Post 6054809)
If it was ME choosing my next rig, the Vanquish is out of the question. It's just too much. Then comes the SCX10iii. Out of the question as well. It looks good, but It has too many pointless things/features on it. The TRX4 RTR. If your getting a TRX4, might as well get a Bronco/Blazer/Defender, but I already have one, don't need two!

I'd go with the Sport kit and your electronics you have picked out. Possbily even throw in some G8 compound PL tires and INJORA beadlocks, but the Canyon Trails with lugs cut out do good I've heard. Oh yeah, gotta have the expo. rack on the body. Yeah yeah, people'll say it adds weight up high, but the Sport looks goofy without it most the time IMO.

Maybe you even go with a Defender or Bronco/Blazer chassis? Personally, my favorite part is having the ability to challenge myself by having the 2 speed and switchable diffs. That way your not fully locked 100% of the time.

Whatever you get, the main idea is having fun! Your rig may not be the best one the world, but as long as your having fun, that's all that matters!

Just my .02 cents

What are the pointless things/features on the 10iii?

Kingmeow 11-25-2020 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Phildirt (Post 6054819)
What are the pointless things/features on the 10iii?

I'm curious too. :???:

Lashlee 11-25-2020 09:27 AM

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FWIW, I have an older 2.2 Wraith, an Enduro (that's now using GSpeed rails with a TGH trans), a Carpa (that's converted to a TGH Sherpa) and a VS4-10. In the long run, after mods, there is a good chance you'll have more in a given rig than what you can buy the Vanquish for. I prefer a kit, and feel like the go to option for most people is the TRX4 Sport. I'm not a Traxxas hater, but I do like a little variety. I've driven (and help build) a 10.3. If it were me, I would get the 10.3 kit, and potentially look at a different body , only because the extra parts of the 10.3 body make it a little top heavy. The Gladiator is another option with the longer wheelbase that makes it surprisingly capable.

If this is your first purchase, keep it simple since you might not be that into the hobby once you've got a controller in your hand, but make sure the rig you purchase is up to the task.

Topher Builds 11-25-2020 09:40 AM

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SSD trail king all day long for this type of project imo. Wonít need any upgrades but upgrades will help if you decide to down the road. No true weak spots out of the box.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phildirt (Post 6054819)
What are the pointless things/features on the 10iii?

The 2 speed and the multi piece chassis IMO. Iíve yet to see anyone do anything with the chassis adjustability and it seems like a complicated/heavier approach than a standard chassis for a feature to print on the box. But the quality is there, AR45P axles are a more than welcome addition to our options, and I love me that JLU body.

talltee9 11-25-2020 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Topher Builds (Post 6054844)
SSD trail king all day long for this type of project imo. Wonít need any upgrades but upgrades will help if you decide to down the road. No true weak spots out of the box.







The 2 speed and the multi piece chassis IMO. Iíve yet to see anyone do anything with the chassis adjustability and it seems like a complicated/heavier approach than a standard chassis for a feature to print on the box. But the quality is there, AR45P axles are a more than welcome addition to our options, and I love me that JLU body.

Ssd trail king kits is on sale at amain too... just thought I'd throw that In lol

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Phildirt 11-25-2020 10:20 AM

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I've Googled, YouTubed, and forum searched myself silly on every kit, RTR, platform, builder...given myself a headache. I have decided I am (A) not good enough with a controller or experienced enough with terrain to think that hard and (B) a lot of the upgrades would be wasted on me until I figure out the first point...At the moment my plan is TRX4, likely the Defender. It has the looks, aftermarket support, quality, reputation, reliability, and ease of operation that I need to get more rooted in this hobby. Then in a year or so I can go nuts on a build or see what else has come out. It's kind of funny to me that I thought so hard about something I know so little about lol. I've bashed around in my OG scx10 in the back yard with no shock oil, no foam in the tires, on a crappy hobby store ESC and had a blast so there's definitely a learning curve. I just decided I am better off with something solid that I can make a few tweaks to if I feel limited, which I likely won't. My current M.O. is 'crawl, stop, take photo, look at photo, edit photo, oh yeah remember I'm supposed to be crawling' lol. Hard to justify a $1K+ setup doing that.

I know that doesn't help you decide, but just some perspective from another noob.

talltee9 11-25-2020 10:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by itr1275 (Post 6054757)
I have, and love the bodies. But I've also got a fascination with 3/4 link suspension. I have nothing with a solid axle in real life (all Toyotas), so I want to live vicariously through my RC.

https://www.amainhobbies.com/element...40103/p1171437

If I'm not mistaken this can be installed on different brand rigs pretty easily. I remember watching a video on it. If you do happen to get one of the other kits heres a not soild axle option

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ScaleLifeNewbie 11-25-2020 01:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingmeow (Post 6054828)
I'm curious too. :???:



Quote:

Originally Posted by Phildirt (Post 6054819)
What are the pointless things/features on the 10iii?


The motor cover. Youíll never see it with the body on, so whatís the point?
The 2 speed. Itís only a 40% increase in speed, canít really tell the difference like you can with the TRX4.
DIG. Not a lot of people want it/use it, including me.
The split rail frame. Seems like a weak point to me. (Not so much pointless, just something I donít like)

Iím not bashing the 10.3, just feel like for the price, it could at least have switchable diffs and ditch the dig.


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Phildirt 11-25-2020 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ScaleLifeNewbie (Post 6054878)
The motor cover. You’ll never see it with the body on, so what’s the point?
The 2 speed. It’s only a 40% increase in speed, can’t really tell the difference like you can with the TRX4.
DIG. Not a lot of people want it/use it, including me.
The split rail frame. Seems like a weak point to me. (Not so much pointless, just something I don’t like)

I’m not bashing the 10.3, just feel like for the price, it could at least have switchable diffs and ditch the dig.


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The motor cover would be the least of my worries. The dig works fine just not while crawling, I agree it's pointless. 2 speed is nice for a trail truck even if it's just a little faster.



The selling points of the 10 iii are the scale factor, axle compatibility with other SCx10 offerings, and in the case of the Gladiator "something new", the TRX4 platform is aging. I would agree that the TRX4 is better thought out/executed/has way more usable features (especially in the RTR form). I would expect Axial to offer another version of the 10iii before Traxxas does anything earth shattering with the TRX4, they are still selling. I'd like to see a kit version of the Gladiator or a straight axle version of both among other things.

OnTheTrail 11-25-2020 03:12 PM

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Here's another option I came up with while thinking of my next rig. Based on the above net package costs you've listed, get a RTR G500 for $399. Then get a Sport body for $50, a set of Sport body posts for $4, set of Inorja Rims $50, and some good tires/foams $90-100, a can of Tamiya paint $7 and a metal servo arm $8 for the stock servo. Now you have a TRX4 with 2spd, locking diffs and one body tire/ set for trailing and one for more serious crawling. If and when the stock servo goes, get a stronger aftermarket steering servo for $30-$130.

All this comes in way below everything you listed with the exception of the RTR Sport. If you're not a fan of the sport body, you can get one of the other Traxxas choices or many aftermarket options.

Phildirt 11-25-2020 03:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheTrail (Post 6054897)
Here's another option I came up with while thinking of my next rig. Based on the above net package costs you've listed, get a RTR G500 for $399. Then get a Sport body for $50, a set of Sport body posts for $4, set of Inorja Rims $50, and some good tires/foams $90-100, a can of Tamiya paint $7 and a metal servo arm $8 for the stock servo. Now you have a TRX4 with 2spd, locking diffs and one body tire/ set for trailing and one for more serious crawling. If and when the stock servo goes, get a stronger aftermarket steering servo for $30-$130.

All this comes in way below everything you listed with the exception of the RTR Sport. If you're not a fan of the sport body, you can get one of the other Traxxas choices or many aftermarket options.


At $457 you're kind of getting close to the RTR Blazer/Bronco ($480ish) and the same as the RTR Defender ($460ish) once you add the kit and the extra body/posts though. But not a horrible plan, you would have lighter body and much better COG. Side note the G500 wheels are hideous haha. Probably why its so cheap:)

ScaleLifeNewbie 11-25-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Phildirt (Post 6054905)
At $457 you're kind of getting close to the RTR Blazer/Bronco ($480ish) and the same as the RTR Defender ($460ish) once you add the kit and the extra body/posts though. But not a horrible plan, you would have lighter body and much better COG. Side note the G500 wheels are hideous haha. Probably why its so cheap:)


Not to mention the toy grade looking body and tires that look like plastic lmao.


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itr1275 11-25-2020 04:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScaleLifeNewbie (Post 6054878)
The motor cover. Youíll never see it with the body on, so whatís the point?
The 2 speed. Itís only a 40% increase in speed, canít really tell the difference like you can with the TRX4.
DIG. Not a lot of people want it/use it, including me.
The split rail frame. Seems like a weak point to me. (Not so much pointless, just something I donít like)

  • Yah I wondered about the engine cover. It's part of the scaler look and feel, I get it. But it's not for me, it would be in the trash after a few pictures.
  • The 2 speed is better than nothing and you can only drive it so fast with out completely loosing control anyway. Remember the speed scales too. So 10 MPH is like 100 MPH in a solid axle truck. Eeek!. If I really want to go fast I can hop up the electronics and run an 6S battery. - See Kevin Talbot. :ror:
  • I like the dig. I don't have one now, but it's seem pretty cool for crawling. However, I might hate it - I dunno.
  • I thought the split rail was a bit goofy but I'm not concerned. From a performance perspective, it add weight strength and rigidity low down in the chassis. But you'd better make sure you get the bolt tight so it doesn't do this.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ytmmefaB3q...Bcrash%2B5.jpg
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Originally Posted by OnTheTrail (Post 6054897)
Here's another option I came up with while thinking of my next rig. Based on the above net package costs you've listed, get a RTR G500 for $399. Then get a Sport body for $50, a set of Sport body posts for $4, set of Inorja Rims $50, and some good tires/foams $90-100, a can of Tamiya paint $7 and a metal servo arm $8 for the stock servo. Now you have a TRX4 with 2spd, locking diffs and one body tire/ set for trailing and one for more serious crawling. If and when the stock servo goes, get a stronger aftermarket steering servo for $30-$130.

All this comes in way below everything you listed with the exception of the RTR Sport. If you're not a fan of the sport body, you can get one of the other Traxxas choices or many aftermarket options.

I saw the G500 and it's cool, but maybe a bit too baller for me. The sport body is not bad looking and light weight.

OnTheTrail 11-25-2020 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by itr1275 (Post 6054920)
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I saw the G500 and it's cool, but maybe a bit too baller for me. The sport body is not bad looking and light weight.

No doubt. Just mentioning it for the features for your hard earned dollar. ;-) I absolutely love the diff locks in my Defender as well as the 2 spd from time to time since I geared it down. For me it would be hard to go with a sport RTR without them so I looked around to find way to do a Sport with them for the lowest amount of out of pocket funds.

itr1275 11-25-2020 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheTrail (Post 6054922)
No doubt. Just mentioning it for the features for your hard earned dollar. ;-) I absolutely love the diff locks in my Defender as well as the 2 spd from time to time since I geared it down. For me it would be hard to go with a sport RTR without them so I looked around to find way to do a Sport with them for the lowest amount of out of pocket funds.




Huh? the sport doesn't have diff locks and a 2-speed? I thought it was missing servos only?

Phildirt 11-25-2020 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by itr1275 (Post 6054926)
Huh? the sport doesn't have diff locks and a 2-speed? I thought it was missing servos only?

Single speed/spools. To get the rest you have to get anything but the sport or sport kit. The crawler kit has all of the goodies but youíd need electronics, wheels/tires, body...I am going rtr so I have spare parts when I decide to start changing things. I donít have drawers full of components like most in the forum lol. Now if you needed 1:1 Chevy truck parts I have those in spades. Have owned/modified 2 s10s, a Silverado, 2 suburbans, and now own a Tahoe. Figured out itís cheaper, sort of, to play with toy trucks. Wrenching isnít as sweaty either lol.

itr1275 11-25-2020 06:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phildirt (Post 6054930)
Single speed/spools. To get the rest you have to get anything but the sport or sport kit. The crawler kit has all of the goodies but youíd need electronics, wheels/tires, body...I am going rtr so I have spare parts when I decide to start changing things. I donít have drawers full of components like most in the forum lol. Now if you needed 1:1 Chevy truck parts I have those in spades. Have owned/modified 2 s10s, a Silverado, 2 suburbans, and now own a Tahoe. Figured out itís cheaper, sort of, to play with toy trucks. Wrenching isnít as sweaty either lol.

Ok. Thanks that saved a bunch of disappointment. That's funny because I always tell my wife, never buy the "sport" trim of a car. Sport means I didn't spend the money to get the good one, so they gave me this fancy "sport" badge to make me feel better.

So it's the

TRX4 Chassis Kit, with electronics, T-Lock diffs & 2 speed trans. No body ($395)
TRX4 Sport. Has locked diffs and single speed trans. No electronics. ($299 kit/$359 RTR)
TRX4 G500/Bronco/Chevy/Defender, complete with lockers and 2 speed. (G500 $399/Others $469)

But the G500 is only $399, why?

itr1275 11-25-2020 06:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheTrail (Post 6054897)
Here's another option I came up with while thinking of my next rig. Based on the above net package costs you've listed, get a RTR G500 for $399. Then get a Sport body for $50, a set of Sport body posts for $4, set of Inorja Rims $50, and some good tires/foams $90-100, a can of Tamiya paint $7 and a metal servo arm $8 for the stock servo. Now you have a TRX4 with 2spd, locking diffs and one body tire/ set for trailing and one for more serious crawling. If and when the stock servo goes, get a stronger aftermarket steering servo for $30-$130.

All this comes in way below everything you listed with the exception of the RTR Sport. If you're not a fan of the sport body, you can get one of the other Traxxas choices or many aftermarket options.


OK, I see your point now; however, it's still a $600+ truck in that config. Probably better off with the Crawler Kit for $400 +$50 body?

Phildirt 11-25-2020 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by itr1275 (Post 6054931)
Ok. Thanks that saved a bunch of disappointment. That's funny because I always tell my wife, never buy the "sport" trim of a car. Sport means I didn't spend the money to get the good one, so they gave me this fancy "sport" badge to make me feel better.

So it's the

TRX4 Chassis Kit, with electronics, T-Lock diffs & 2 speed trans. No body ($395)
TRX4 Sport. Has locked diffs and single speed trans. No electronics. ($299 kit/$359 RTR)
TRX4 G500/Bronco/Chevy/Defender, complete with lockers and 2 speed. (G500 $399/Others $469)


But the G500 is only $399, why?

If I had to guess itís less because it doesnít sell. Supply/demand. It would be really cool if they did the 69 or 72 Blazer in an RTR. Iíd do that in a second. As it is Iím planning on Defender because the longer wheelbase/big old top heavy chunky body just speaks to me. I watched a video of 9 or 12 test side by side vs 10iii today and it sidehilled just fine, was faster, stronger, better turning radius...I was sold about halfway through. I donít have the link but Google SCX10iii vs TRX4 and itís an Asian gentleman running a silver Traxxas/grey Axial both RTR. Very comprehensive test.

ScaleLifeNewbie 11-25-2020 07:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phildirt (Post 6054933)
I donít have the link but Google SCX10iii vs TRX4 and itís an Asian gentleman running a silver Traxxas/grey Axial both RTR. Very comprehensive test.

The channel name is ďRC ReviewĒ if this helps anyone[emoji1690]


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itr1275 11-25-2020 07:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phildirt (Post 6054933)
If I had to guess itís less because it doesnít sell. Supply/demand. It would be really cool if they did the 69 or 72 Blazer in an RTR. Iíd do that in a second. As it is Iím planning on Defender because the longer wheelbase/big old top heavy chunky body just speaks to me. I watched a video of 9 or 12 test side by side vs 10iii today and it sidehilled just fine, was faster, stronger, better turning radius...I was sold about halfway through. I donít have the link but Google SCX10iii vs TRX4 and itís an Asian gentleman running a silver Traxxas/grey Axial both RTR. Very comprehensive test.




I know the video by RC Review - Francis. He local to me but I haven't met him. Good videos and very thorough. The only thing I would like to see is a comparison summary at the end. Sort of like they do in the car mags.

itr1275 11-25-2020 08:20 PM

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It turns out that if you really want the 2-speed and locking diffs you can add it via a kit.



Two speed conversion kit ($60)
Model# 8196
https://www.amainhobbies.com/traxxas...ra8196/p783826

Traxxas TRX-4 Locking Front/Rear Differential ($140)
Model# TRA8195
https://www.amainhobbies.com/traxxas...95/p777204?r=0


However, it's $200. So I would still be $50 better off getting the Crawler Kit ($395) and buying a body ($50).

itr1275 11-30-2020 03:29 PM

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OK. I've ordered the Traxxas TRX-4 Trail Rock Crawler Assembly Kit. That way I get the locking diffs and the 2-speed.



Thanks for all the input.



I need to get a body. Any suggestions (pics) I'm leaning towards teh TRX4 Camper body. It's the sport body with a camper shell.

mewalsh100 12-01-2020 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by itr1275 (Post 6055585)
OK. I've ordered the Traxxas TRX-4 Trail Rock Crawler Assembly Kit. That way I get the locking diffs and the 2-speed.



Thanks for all the input.



I need to get a body. Any suggestions (pics) I'm leaning towards teh TRX4 Camper body. It's the sport body with a camper shell.

You'll be pleased with your purchase. The TRX platform is virtually bullet proof and plenty of aftermarket and upgrade potential if you chose. I do like the Sport Camper body. It's a bit "generic", but it can be painted up to look pretty nice. Plus, Traxxas offers all the molded accessories like the grill, light buckets, lenses, tailgate, etc, which really bring the whole look up.

You could also go with a hard body if you were really going for "scale". ShrinkRC on Instagram offers mounting kits for the RC4WD bodies including the Trail Finder (Yota Hilux), the Blazer, etc. "thumbsup"

mash914 12-01-2020 09:16 PM

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I went through a similar decision process earlier this year and also ended up with the TRX4 'full' kit. I wanted my kid to learn about how lockable differentials and multi-speed transmissions work. It was a great choice.

We ended up choosing the Bronco body and while it isn't cheap, it's really nice and actually not that heavy.

ScaleLifeNewbie 12-02-2020 01:49 AM

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I have 2 bodies, the Proline 12.8 Jeep Rubicon and the TRX4 Bronco body. My favorite is the Bronco, but also Ive put a lot of time into it, so I am bias lol. Im using Postimage and cant get the pictures normal size, so they are links to the full size picture instead of thumbnail. Sorry about that, I know its annoying sometimes.

https://postimg.cc/06WmN3yT
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https://postimg.cc/kVXKq9qN
https://postimg.cc/rD9xBzXF
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itr1275 12-04-2020 02:40 PM

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I ordered the Vanquish Origin body. After ditching the Vanquish idea I realized that I really like the body. So that's why I got it.



It will be an adventure fitting it. . . .

ScaleLifeNewbie 12-04-2020 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by itr1275 (Post 6056340)
I ordered the Vanquish Origin body. After ditching the Vanquish idea I realized that I really like the body. So that's why I got it.



It will be an adventure fitting it. . . .


Ahh yes, love the 1:1 Scouts!


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Voodoobrew 12-07-2020 10:24 AM

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Im not a fan of the vs4-10, Mostly because upgrading and shopping are a big part of the fun. Not much need for that on the vanquish.

Of course my trx4 is the most stock rig I own because all the parts are pretty decent out of the box. Mine has a mamba x and a puller pro 2200kv and holmes hobby v3 servo.

The bumpers drag on damnear everything but its ok for now. I need one rig that looks kinda realistic and is more challenging to drive.
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