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11-11-2013, 12:03 PM | #1 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Auburn, MI
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| Big Stu's FOFF Monster Truck ???
As if a build of a comp truck, and a rebuild of my comp truck from last year weren't enough, I decided to throw the manual for Monster Trucks / Clodbusters out the window and come up with something new. Not too long ago, I traded a set of aluminum Wraith axle housings for a BWD FOFF chassis. I've always wanted to get one of these, since they first came out, and knew that one day I would get one. After receiving the chassis I stared at it and tried to come up with an idea. Water skipper, done.. Typical air it out hyper fast FOFF, done... And on and on..... Then it occurred to me, these are VERY strong and the center of gravity is VERY low.. Hmmmm. Set the chassis on a 2.2 crawler tire, put a set of Clodbuster wheels and tires next to it, hmmmm. They almost line up to the axle center line perfect. Hmmmmmm. Then while looking for parts, Chris_the_battery man from Creation Fab releases his new lightweight HD beef tubes to use with Wraith parts and XR10 shafts to widen SCX/AX-10 axles. Idea born.. So after some PMs, phone calls, and orders to my favorite vendors, a pile was born. Some where in here is a monster truck.. Step 1, get the trans in the chassis. Made a call to my buddy Rick at Super Shafty for one of his Bomb Proof Axial transmissions, with the 6mm outputs and the MIP adapters to fit. Rick does an incredible job assembling these monsters. He takes the time to build and then break in EVERY transmission he builds. When you get one of these, you drop it in, with BIG power and GO.. And with my decision to go with Tekin Pro4 power and Clodbuster tires - a Bomb Proof trans was a must. Step 2 - Axles. Chris the battery man at Creation Fab provided two sets of his new HD lightweight beef tubes. They are aluminum tubes with plastic ends that are splined to fit in to XR10/Wraith C-Hubs. My set required a little persuasion for installation of the C-hubs, but they came out GREAT. For monster trucks, and monster jam style racing, some of the courses are VERY tight. Almost tight to the point where they require 4ws. Phase one for tight turns - 4ws, accomplished. Phase 2 - Differentials. The standard Axial lockers certainly wouldn't hold up to Pro4 + Clod tires. And with the tight turns required, I went back to my old back of tricks. GCM of Canada is manufacturing aluminum diff housings for the EXO. Just happens that these are the same housings we use in our crawlers. After some searching on the shortcourse forums, the HPI diff gears appeared to be the toughest on the market and the go-to for the short course guys that are having gear diff problems. So, some GCM EXO housings + Axial Under Drive HD Gears + HPI diff gears + some VP grease = differentials that should do the job. To my suprise the XR10 axle ends slid right in and had no slop. I'll keep my eye on them and have a spare set just in case I start breaking teeth. Phase 2 for tight turns, complete. Kudos go out to Fast Eddie. I didn't really want to have to buy individual bearings or two complete sets of SCX-10 bearings to fill both axles. Since they offer sets for the AR60 Wraith axles and these use the same bearings, 2-kits = perfect number of bearings. After some grinding, filing and trimming on the housings, some more VP grease, a little pinion shimming, we have success.. And, even thought the shocks needs to be finished, and the drive shafts are too long, and a bunch more work needs to be done to get the 4ws ready, I couldn't resist bolting the axles to the chassis. Keep your eyes open for more progress soon. Round two of the Michigan Monsters of RC Monster Jam Series is the 23rd of this month. With some luck, I will have the rest of this monster finished and ready to see what she'll do.. Thank you to all the RCC vendors that have provided parts for this build. More to come. |
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11-11-2013, 04:33 PM | #2 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Benicia/Vallejo
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| Re: Big Stu's FOFF Monster Truck ???
Nice! I've got that chassis in a 13.5" wb with vanquish currie rock jock axles. I love it |
11-12-2013, 08:53 AM | #3 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Auburn, MI
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| Re: Big Stu's FOFF Monster Truck ???
This is the 12.5" Version. I kind of wish it was the 13.5". Going to try it at this wheelbase and see how it works. Do you run it with the front offset pumpkin? |
11-12-2013, 08:57 AM | #4 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Castle Rock, WA
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Awesome idea. Looking forward to the progress. Subscribed.
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11-12-2013, 09:05 AM | #5 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Rochester Hills
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| Re: Big Stu's FOFF Monster Truck ???
Bad ass man, I love it!!!! Later, Farmer |
11-12-2013, 09:11 AM | #6 |
Tire&Foam Extraordinaire Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: C.I. Compound, Tyler, Texas
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| Re: Big Stu's FOFF Monster Truck ???
Fantastic collection of parts! Subscribed It's nice to see another MT build going together. I would take note of how the lower links attach the chassis, and consider this mod: http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/formula-offroad/398046-crawler-innovations-water-skippin-foffer-build-6.html#post4532348 That lower link mount bolt is the weakest link in the chassis design and they take all the impact. Thankfully you will be using clod buster wheels and tires and they absorb a lot of impact |
11-13-2013, 07:53 AM | #7 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Here
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The spider gears you mentioned are tough for anything below a 5" od tire. I grenades about 4 sets of them with just 5.5 imex pullers
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11-13-2013, 08:50 AM | #8 | |
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Mine has the centered pumpkins Last edited by 1tonscout; 11-13-2013 at 08:55 AM. | |
11-13-2013, 10:17 AM | #9 | |||
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| Re: Big Stu's FOFF Monster Truck ??? Thank you. Should have some more progress soon.. Did some design work on the puter last night. Should be cutting some parts tonight. Steering arms and some plates to stiffen up the clod wheels for the VP hubs. Thanks Farmer. Hoping to have it done in time to show off at the first comp of the season... Quote:
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I also have two sets of the Axial diff gears that are used in the EXO and can be used in the SCX axles as well. My hope is that the aluminum diff housings will keep things straight and engaged. I also shimmed the diffs, with the shims from GCM, so they are tight and smooth. Hoping they stay that way.. The great thing about the axles, you can pull them apart and inspect in almost no time. Quote:
Going to be spending some time on this one tonight, so updates coming soon. | |||
11-13-2013, 01:28 PM | #10 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Benicia/Vallejo
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I can measure my chassis if you want
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11-13-2013, 11:08 PM | #11 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Auburn, MI
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| Re: Big Stu's FOFF Monster Truck ???
Was going to spend some time in front of the CNC tonight, milling some parts. Until I started the control computer and it said it needed 25 updates. GREAT.... So while that was updating, I pulled apart the shocks, cleaned and re-built them with some new soft parts, mounted the front steering servo to start getting ready for the linkage, and just had to put some tires on it.... Some of tonight's progress. Can't decide, Ford or Chevy.... And YES, the stock unmodified universals will turn this much. These are TXT wheels with no hubs or anything. Mounted right to the hexes.. Just to see how much steering this truck might have. With no wideners, this isn't too bad... |
11-14-2013, 01:02 PM | #12 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: East Texas
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| Re: Big Stu's FOFF Monster Truck ???
I'm a ford guy but that chev body looks like a million bucks sitting on there Sick build so far, definitely a tough build |
11-14-2013, 01:34 PM | #13 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Eastcoast CANADA
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Looking good!
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11-14-2013, 02:59 PM | #14 |
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11-15-2013, 03:10 PM | #15 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Auburn, MI
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| Re: Big Stu's FOFF Monster Truck ???
Thank you everyone. Just wish the truck was coming along faster. LOL.. Did some more work today. Couldn't find any steering arms I liked, so I designed my own. I'm really not trying to brag, but having a CNC mill in your basement spoils a guy... These are just for mock up, but looks like this will work pretty good. And even without any hubs to push the rims out a little bit, they just clear.. As soon as I get the hubs and stiffening plates on the rims, they should work perfect. |
11-15-2013, 03:51 PM | #16 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Castle Rock, WA
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Looks good. Check out a couple of my wraith MT builds. I used DLux delrin wheel faces and SLW hubs in my clod wheels. Sent from my computer-phone. |
11-21-2013, 05:53 PM | #17 |
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this thing is badass! |
11-22-2013, 12:51 AM | #18 |
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| Re: Big Stu's FOFF Monster Truck ???
Thank you for all the compliments guys.. Did a little more work tonight, while some paint was drying. Was hoping to have this done for the monster truck race this weekend, but just not enough hours in the day. But you know what they say, good things come to those that wait. First thing to do, finish up the front an rear tie rods. Next thing on the agenda, shortening up the drive shafts. Since I went with the extended outputs on my Super Shafty Bomb Proof trans, the MIPs were a little long. A phone call to Rick at Super Shafty and problem fixed. Between painting and decaling a body, and getting this done, I was VERY happy. But I couldn't leave it here. Been dying to get it on some wheels. My clod wheels need to spend some time in the mill, so for now these will do.. Front Axle And for those critics that say these are Sedonas and they aren't as big as a monster truck tire, take a second look. Yes, that is a RC4WD Rumble. Since the Chevy body has to go on another truck, I kept trying to go with the Superduty monster truck body I have. Just not sure it is going to work. Any suggestions on a body? Wheel base is right about 13.25". Only body I won't put on it is a Grave Digger body.. |
07-17-2014, 01:21 PM | #19 | |
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Traxxas's Velenion motor, ESC, 3906 emaxx trans into WK axles, 5.5 imex pullers, k2-3l chassis, jeep body, 2s thunder pro lipos 4k mah Last edited by Gula; 07-17-2014 at 01:25 PM. | |
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